What "rights" do homosexuals "deserve" to have -- WITH POLL!!

[IamRedeemed]

Did Jesus say to love the Lord our God first with
all of our heart, mind soul and strength? or not?

Did He say to love our neighbor's heresy and blasphemy
or their sins done in HIS name? Did He say allow them
to infiltrate His Father's house with their idols?

"Who is my neighbor?"

Your answer to this question will determine your answer to the poll question.

 

[lucyclaire]

The only condition we are given on loving our neighbour is as ourselves. To treat others as we wish to be treated. He doesn't ask you to love bits of your neighbour and reject him if he has too many sinful ways. He just asks you to Love Your Neighbour... no conditions are attached.
It says nothing about judging them, deciding whether a person is a Christian or not either. In fact in Matthew 7 v 1 he says if you don't wish to be judged, don't judge others.

 

[tulc]

Did Jesus say to love the Lord our God first with
all of our heart, mind soul and strength? or not?

Did He say to love our neighbor's heresy and blasphemy
or their sins done in HIS name? Did He say allow them
to infiltrate His Father's house with their idols?

uhmmm wasn't that the whole point of the story of the good Samaritan? The religious people failed to be the wounded mans neighbor but the heretic was? At what point in the story did Jesus say "And then the Samaritan gave up his wicked ways and converted to being a Jew!"?
tulc(just a thought)

 

[IamRedeemed]

If you weren't so quick to push your pet mantra, you would know that
the answers to my questions are in the Scriptures which do not align
with that mantra. PS. You also used Scripture out of context, but that
has come to be expected in these parts, so what else is new?

The only condition we are given on loving our neighbour is as ourselves. To treat others as we wish to be treated. He doesn't ask you to love bits of your neighbour and reject him if he has too many sinful ways. He just asks you to Love Your Neighbour... no conditions are attached.
It says nothing about judging them, deciding whether a person is a Christian or not either. In fact in Matthew 7 v 1 he says if you don't wish to be judged, don't judge others.

 

[IamRedeemed]

uhmmmm, he was a wounded man on the side of the street left for dead.
He wasn't a man with a picket sign pushing his anti-Christ as well as godless lawless
agendas and onto the Church.

You have heard what Jesus did with those who wanted to turn
His Father's house into something it was never intended for.

Big difference. If you knew much about the parable, you would know that the
Jews were taught not even to medically aid the man but to walk on the
opposite side of the street. Jesus was just correcting them in that philosophy,
in that no matter who a person is, if they are in need we should help them.

It has nothing to do with catering to their anti-Christ doctrines or
lawless and godless agenda or attacks on the faith, renaming what God
has said is evil----good and in His name to boot. No. Not at all.

uhmmm wasn't that the whole point of the story of the good Samaritan? The religious people failed to be the wounded mans neighbor but the heretic was? At what point in the story did Jesus say "And then the Samaritan gave up his wicked ways and converted to being a Jew!"?
tulc(just a thought)

 

[tulc]

If you weren't so quick to push your mantra, you would know that
the answers to my questions are in the Scriptures which do not align
with your mantra. PS. You also used Scripture out of context, but that
has come to be expected in these parts, so what else is new?

And we're NOT supposed to love our neighbor as ourselves?

36Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38This is the first and great commandment.
39And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

I don't know, it looks pretty straight forward to me.
tulc(but then I tend to just believe it as read)

 

[IamRedeemed]

We do not love our neighbor while dismissing our God, so that our
neighbor feels good but goes to hell.

Agape Love is not the same as the agenda you are pressing.

Agape Love says STOP and risks being hated for it now, but loved for it later.

Worldly love says GO, do what you feel and love me now for making you feel good
....I won't know you later!

But that person is wrong if they think there is no account. See Ezekiel 33:6


There is a lot of other "straightforward" text that I think
you should take some time to get acquainted with.

And we're NOT supposed to love our neighbor as ourselves?

I don't know, it looks pretty straight forward to me.
tulc(but then I tend to just believe it as read)

 

[tulc]

uhmmmm, he was a wounded man on the side of the street left for dead.
He wasn't a man with a picket sign pushing his anti-Christ as well as godless lawless
agendas and onto the Church.

You have heard what Jesus did with those who wanted to turn
His Father's house into something it was never intended for.

Big difference. If you knew much about the parable, you would know that the
Jews were taught not even to medically aid the man but to walk on the
opposite side of the street. Jesus was just corrected them in that, no
matter who a person is, if they are in need we should help them.

It has nothing to do with catering to their anti-Christ doctrines or
lawless and godless agendas.

I was actually talking more about the Samaritan then the wounded man. Know anything about them?
Been here?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samaritan
tulc(that Jesus, He told some great stories!)

 

[CaDan]

It has nothing to do with catering to their anti-Christ doctrines or
lawless and godless agenda or attacks on the faith, renaming what God
has said is evil----good and in His name to boot. No. Not at all.

Is it fair to conclude that you do not view "those people" as your neighbor?

 

[IamRedeemed]

The Samaritan WAS the wounded man, that under Jewish traditions, they would
not have helped, but were required to walk on the other side of the street,
because of who he was. Jesus was not teaching them to dishonor God in any way
in the process. Context is everything.

I was actually talking more about the Samaritan then the wounded man. Know anything about them?
Been here?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samaritan
tulc(that Jesus, He told some great stories!)

 

[IamRedeemed]

No, that is completely unfair and untrue to
conclude such a thing.

Was Paul being unloving to His neighbor in 1 Corinthians 5?
Or did his neighbor cause him to choose between him and GOD
as well as the welfare of the sheep?

Was Jesus being unloving to His neighbors when he turned over
all of their tables and caused their goats and all to run loose?

Context my friend. Context is the key.

Study to show yourself approved, a workman UNTO GOD, who needs
not to be ashamed, being he rightly divides the Word of Truth.
2 Timothy 2:15

Is it fair to conclude that you do not view "those people" as your neighbor?

 

[CaDan]

We do not love our neighbor while dismissing our God, so that our
neighbor feels good but goes to hell.

Agape Love is not the same as the agenda you are pressing.

Agape Love says STOP and risks being hated for it now, but loved for it later.

It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, bears all things.

It never fails.

 

[CaDan]

The Samaritan WAS the wounded man, that under Jewish traditions, they would
not have helped, but were required to walk on the other side of the street,
because of who he was. Jesus was not teaching them to dishonor God in any way
in the process. Context is everything.

I fear you may have him confused with the thankful leper in Luke 17.

 

[tulc]

The Samaritan WAS the wounded man, that under Jewish traditions, they would
not have helped, but were required to walk on the other side of the street,
because of who he was. Jesus was not teaching them to dishonor God in any way
in the process. Context is everything.

Well let's look at it:

25And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
26He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?
27And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
28And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
29But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbour?
30And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead.
31And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.
32And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side.
33But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him,
34And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.
35And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee.
36Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?
37And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.

where does it say the wounded man was a Samaritan? The only person named as a the good neighbor was the Samaritan (that would be the person considered as a heretic by the Jews) So now you have a heretic being the good neighbor and the religious people not.
tulc(always liked that story)

 

[IamRedeemed]

And one of the other things Love doesn't fail in is speaking the Word of Life.
The doctrine of relativity and the world's love is a doctrine of demons that
leads people into hell. But it is a popular message these days amongst apostates.

Love does the work of an evangelist. The unpopular task of not preaching to
itching ears, false doctrines. The Apostles know all about that, since most
of them were killed in barbaric ways for doing it as unto the Lord and the
ones that heard it and heeded the fullness of the Gospel were and are the
grateful ones who benefited.

It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, bears all things.

It never fails.

I fear you may have him confused with the thankful leper in Luke 17.

 

[IamRedeemed]

I apologize. I admit I am not totally focused on answering your post but am doing
three things actually. So, I did absentmindedly

You are correct. The bottom line though is that the point I was
making still stands as spoken. Jesus was not teaching them to dishonor
God in any way. He never told them to condone heresy, did he?
No, He did not. Context is everything.

The object lesson was to help someone in need regardless
of what you have against them.
It in no way means preach to their itching ears
false doctrines that they want to hear and call what God has
named evil, good and become apostates yourselves
to make your neighbor feel good.

Well let's look at it:

where does it say the wounded man was a Samaritan? The only person named as a the good neighbor was the Samaritan (that would be the person considered as a heretic by the Jews) So now you have a heretic being the good neighbor and the religious people not.
tulc(always liked that story)

 

[CaDan]

And one of the other things Love doesn't fail in is speaking the Word of Life.
The doctrine of relativity and the world's love is a doctrine of demons that
leads people into hell. But it is a popular message these days amongst apostates.

Love does the work of an evangelist. The unpopular task of not preaching to
itching ears, false doctrines. The Apostles know all about that, since most
of them were killed in barbaric ways for doing it as unto the Lord and the
ones that heard it and heeded the fullness of the Gospel were and are the
grateful ones who benefited.

I think you fail to grasp that the Samaritans were considered heretics at the time. And the point being made in Luke 10 is that it's not about how correct one's doctrine is or about "relativity" or about whether or not one is apostate. It is about food and care and water for the wretched. It is about liberty to the captives and eyesight to the blind. It is about good news to the poor.

 

[CaDan]

I apologize. I admit I am not totally focused on answering your post but am doing
three things actually. So, I did absentmindedly

You are correct. The bottom line though is that the point I was
making still stands as spoken. Jesus was not teaching them to dishonor
God in any way. He never told them to condone heresy, did he?
No, He did not. Context is everything.

The object lesson was to help someone in need regardless
of what you have against them.
It in no way means preach to their itching ears
false doctrines that they want to hear and call what God has
named evil, good and become apostates yourselves
to make your neighbor feel good.

I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor people on the internet, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

 

[IamRedeemed]

Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship
of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be
a friend of the world is the enemy of God. James 4:4

Jesus said in Matthew 12:30
He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathers not
with me scatters abroad.

and in Luke 11:23
He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathers
not with me scatters.

The world says "love everyone according to our standards and you will have peace."

Is that what Jesus said?

Jesus said in Matthew 10:34-38:

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth:
I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a
man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother,
and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall
be they of his own household. He that loves father or mother more
than me is not worthy of me: and he that loves son or daughter more
than me is not worthy of me. and he that taketh not his cross,
and follows after me, is not worthy of me.

Quite different than what the world says, isn't it?

 

[IamRedeemed]

This is yet another Scripture used by you
out of context. Again, I refer you to 2 Timothy 2:15

I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor people on the internet, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.