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What proof would you need? (2)

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Mr Strawberry

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Yes -- He is my invisible Friend, Who brought Israel back from a second diaspora; as opposed to your missing ancestors, who make up your family tree?

Whay have Israel, diasporas and family trees got to do with anything?
 
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Well, if we pass over the baffling connection you have made between those two, why drag Israel into it?
Because they are the Boss' relatives and they can do as they please!
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Here's the Catch 22 God instilled in the human spirit:

If you don't worship Him, you will fill this void with something else that you will worship.

To me, this proves God's existence more that anything else.
 
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Here's the Catch 22 God instilled in the human spirit:

If you don't worship Him, you will fill this void with something else that you will worship.

To me, this proves God's existence more that anything else.
The atheist can't find God for the same reason that a thief can't find a policeman.

-Author Unknown
 
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Here's the Catch 22 God instilled in the human spirit:

If you don't worship Him, you will fill this void with something else that you will worship.

To me, this proves God's existence more that anything else.
I never had the need to worship anything and I certainly do not have the desire to do so now. Thus your argument fails!

Some people need to have something to worship; I don't. I may admire some people but never worship. In fact even if science proves beyond a doubt that God(s) exist I shall accept it as fact but still I will refuse to worship.

I have nothing but my conscious to guide me and have no need for supernatural mentors nor father figures.

Have a nice day :wave:
 
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Here's the Catch 22 God instilled in the human spirit:

If you don't worship Him, you will fill this void with something else that you will worship.

To me, this proves God's existence more that anything else.

When you first left home did you immediately feel the need to find surrogate parents to fill the void? The answer will depend on the individual of course, some people feel homesick if they are not yet ready. Many more feel freedom.
 
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That's why the collective noun for creationists is a flock, as in sheep.


Fellon you are talking to the right person in Cabvet. He is another one that does know the difference between a creationists site or not. He spent weeks woffling on about 'my creationists sites' when indeed I had used none. What a desperate lark!.

I do not use creationist sites lovey. There is plenty of research in the evolutionary field to knife you with. 290 million year old whales in Michagan is just one example of a plethora..NOT from creationist sites, you pair of geese.

If there ever was a good example of sheep or the blind leading the blind on CF you and Cabvet are winners.
 
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Fellon you are talking to the right person in Cabvet. He is another one that does know the difference between a creationists site or not. He spent weeks woffling on about 'my creationists sites' when indeed I had used none. What a desperate lark!.

I do not use creationist sites lovey. There is plenty of research in the evolutionary field to knife you with. 290 million year old whales in Michagan is just one example of a plethora..NOT from creationist sites, you pair of geese.

If there ever was a good example of sheep or the blind leading the blind on CF you and Cabvet are winners.

Yes, I got to you! And yet you show no evidence for creationism. Thanks for making my point lovey.
 
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Don't you find it interesting that Zaius, Astrid and this new Valkyrie all copy and paste information from the same creationist sites and use the same annoying color-quoting system?

I'm not one to jump to conclusions any faster than needed; it seems to me, even on other, more skeptical sites, that the creationism-types have huge problems with quote tags and punctuation... so you not only have to sort the tags out for them if you choose to reply, but they have a wall of text that they think they have buried their nugget of gold in.

Although, I have yet to see it turn out to actually *be* gold. ^_^

Astrid is the worst - I can't even read her replies, where she mixes up her text with the other post.
 
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quote=Davian;59726511]I'm not one to jump to conclusions any faster than needed; it seems to me, even on other, more skeptical sites, that the creationism-types have huge problems with quote tags and punctuation...
I,m going to have to disagree with you, on this one?

can you give me an example where I can know where you"re coming from.
 
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I'm not one to jump to conclusions any faster than needed; it seems to me, even on other, more skeptical sites, that the creationism-types have huge problems with quote tags and punctuation... so you not only have to sort the tags out for them if you choose to reply, but they have a wall of text that they think they have buried their nugget of gold in.

Although, I have yet to see it turn out to actually *be* gold. ^_^

Astrid is the worst - I can't even read her replies, where she mixes up her text with the other post.


Gish Gallop - RationalWiki
 
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jpcedotal said:
Here's the Catch 22 God instilled in the human spirit:

If you don't worship Him, you will fill this void with something else that you will worship.

To me, this proves God's existence more that anything else.
Jpcedotal actually makes a good point. There's a correlation between the decline of traditional religious beliefs* and the increase of superstition.

One study (Determinants of Superstition) noted that while religiousity in general is more likely to increase belief in the supernatural, there was a negative correlation between church attendance and superstitious beliefs. In fact superstitious belief were actually most common in post-communist countries.


Other studies (Baylor 2005 and 2007) also noted a negative link between religious beliefs / church attendance and belief in creatures which don't exist and superstition. For example:
  • When asked whether they believed Bigfoot existed, the highest percentage of people who though the "probably" or "absolutely" existed were those with no religion. Similarly, those who attended church less than one a year were also the most likely to believe they "absolutely" existed. [2007 survey]
  • When asked it it was possible to comunicate with the dead, those who never attended church were the most likely to "strongly agree" it was possible. Those with no religion were also the most likely to "strongly agree" and the least likely to "disagree" (although it's worth pointing out they were also the most likely to "strongly disagree"). [2005 survey]

* I say "traditional" because protestant and liberal christians are significantly more likely to be superstitious than Catholic or conservative Christians.
 
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