What is the proper Christian response to a homosexual?

[BigBadWlf]

I don't see the word 'choice' anywhere in what you quoted from me, so can you please clarify what it is that you are wanting to know or discuss in relation to my post?

we can start with “countless other lifestyle choices”

 

[BereanTodd]

we can start with “countless other lifestyle choices”

It doesn't matter if there is a "gay gene" or not, whether there is a biological disposition or not. First off, the evidence for that is extremely shaky - in fact nearly non-existant. But guess what? For the sake of this discussion, I'll even grant you this point. For the purpose of our discussion here the "gay gene" does exist, and there is a biological disposition.

So what? Whether some are biologically pre-disposed to it or not, gay sex is still a sin. There are some people who are biologically succeptable to becoming alchoholics, that does not make drunkeness not a sin.

I have a very ballanced view of homosexuality, I have gay friends who know my position even. I show love to everyone, or do my best to at least. I support gay marriage, I welcome gays to attend my churches.

But the Bible is unambiguous, and it is God's Word.

 

[UnitedInChrist]

Rick, I believe you have your Mary's mixed up? Mary Magdalene wasn't a prostitute she was the woman that Jesus cast 7 demons out of, and one of the people who helped financially with Jesus's ministry.​

http://www.magdalene.org/persp_trad.php​

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Magdalene​

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/135/story_13527_1.html​

http://www.christianitytoday.com/tcw/2006/003/6.28.html​

I am one of those people who lives in the Bible Belt, has been called a fundamentalist, and I have been told that I am conservative, so you probably....................................​

I find it shocking that those 3 things are stated as bad things, frankly. I also find it hard to understand why saying something is a sin is considered to be judging and condemning? Yet calling those who believe that the Bible calls something a sin a hater, bigot, etc. isn't judging or condemning. Really confusing​

I don't understand how hoping and praying that all ask forgiveness for their sins, since all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, makes a person a hater and a bigot?​

Jesus told people to go and sin no more, not yeah I know this or that is a sin, but I love you so much I will just pretend it isn't.​

I guess that someone will go and count my post now and make some statement as to what that means. I wonder what bad thing it could mean for all the post I have done in the Prayer Request section? I guess they probably won't count tho since I probably have more post in the homosexuality section anyway. Speaking of judging...................................​

Now I know why I have taken the last few weeks to study, pray and do other things beside post and visit here. I think I will go back to doing that, since there is nothing new here.​

Have a good day all.​

"Helped out financially with Jesus' ministry??" That's new one for me, but don't want to get into what is being taught out there in Bible Schools etc. Most definately Mary Magdaline was there for the cruicifixation of CHrist, and the first to bear witness to the empty tomb when Jesus ressurected. While she was never called a "prostitute" she was referred to as with with "questionable character". Through all the interpretations, she has now been referred to simply "the prostitute". Of course, there are those that say she married Chrsit, had kids, their relatives living in France....let's just not go there.

I was not bashing you for your beliefs, I simply making a comment. Being from the Bible Belt, and being a fundie, you can not see how it looks to those on the outside looking in. Of course there are those that fit the entire spectrum. As you know, it is the frindge that gets the attention, and as such, it is the fundamentalist "frindge" that has given fundamentalists the bad name. If you were to meet an Islamic and they told you they were a fundamentalist...how would you react? Perhaps not as violent, but Christian fundamentalist, by it's true definition, and by the very definitoin in this forum, is a militant orthadox. Those "3 things" in and of themselves are not shocking nor necessary bad. One can totally believe in the fundamental teachings of the Bible, and be conservative, and be in the Bible Belt...It is when those three positions are taken to an exteme, and then those extremes hijack what they were originally meant to be, is when it is a bit of an issue. Unfortunately, being on the outside looking in, reading many of these posts, etc..I would have to say that you sound more tolerant than most.

 

[ReformedChapin]

..and I thank you my child for yet another insightful post but yet you continue to visit all the gay threads....

As the saying goes..."thou protest too much". To which I'm now sure your response will be "prove it". I'm sure you have school work that needs to be done. Focus on that, and while your in school, try to get an education. I'm sure you're paying some good money, so get something out of it please.

You mind telling me what I need to get educated on? Since you are so wise...please oh master tell me.

 

[UnitedInChrist]

Just to restate my position one more time, let me say, homosexuality is a sin, and it is wrong. However, so are countless other lifestyle choices that people we associate with are involved in. We are to show them love. We are to be loving and caring of them.

We are not to judge the world. Remember we were once like they are. We are to watch each others' steps, as Christians, but of the world we are not to judge. Show them love and openess.

I welcome gays attending my church. I don't expect lost people coming to church to look like saved people.

Now the point of disconect is when that actively practicing gay person wants to join the church. By joining you are saying that you agree with what the Bible teaches, you are going to try to live by it, and you are going to be an active part of this particular Christian community.

Anyone actively and unrepentantly living a blatantly sinful lifestyle should not be allowed to join. If it is found that a member is caught in such a lifestyle they would be subject to church discipline as outlined in Galatians 6 and Matthew 18.

That is my position.

Now if you want to speak politically I actually support gay marriage (unlike most other strong Biblical conservatives like myself) because I don't think we can or should legislate religious morality. However, I do think that parallel steps should be taken to make sure it is extremely difficult/impossible for them to adopt children.

WAIT A MINUTE WAIT A MINUTE WAIT A MINUTE....
"EXTREMELY DIFFICULT OR IMPOSSIBLE TO ADOPT CHILDREN"?? Are you referring to the children that are coming from christian conservative households that families through out because their daughters got pregnant and what would the neighbors think? Or the babies that perhaps were born to drug addicts? In case you haven't read or are not of this century, gay parents don't produce gay children. Straight people give birth to gay children. Gay people are around to adopt those that the straight people don't want. If a loving couple is willing to adopt a child and give them the love, support, guidance, and stability that they would otherwise have...GOD BLESS THEM and may they have families of 10 children if they can afford it. Your statement is horrifying.

 

[ReformedChapin]

WAIT A MINUTE WAIT A MINUTE WAIT A MINUTE....
"EXTREMELY DIFFICULT OR IMPOSSIBLE TO ADOPT CHILDREN"?? Are you referring to the children that are coming from christian conservative households that families through out because their daughters got pregnant and what would the neighbors think? Or the babies that perhaps were born to drug addicts? In case you haven't read or are not of this century, gay parents don't produce gay children. Straight people give birth to gay children. Gay people are around to adopt those that the straight people don't want. If a loving couple is willing to adopt a child and give them the love, support, guidance, and stability that they would otherwise have...GOD BLESS THEM and may they have families of 10 children if they can afford it. Your statement is horrifying.

Lets use your logic again, if two adulterers decide to adopt children and give them love and care ...blah blah all the crap they need they should be allowed to adopt right? I mean that's not biblically wrong at all.

 

[UnitedInChrist]

It doesn't matter if there is a "gay gene" or not, whether there is a biological disposition or not. First off, the evidence for that is extremely shaky - in fact nearly non-existant. But guess what? For the sake of this discussion, I'll even grant you this point. For the purpose of our discussion here the "gay gene" does exist, and there is a biological disposition.

So what? Whether some are biologically pre-disposed to it or not, gay sex is still a sin. There are some people who are biologically succeptable to becoming alchoholics, that does not make drunkeness not a sin.

I have a very ballanced view of homosexuality, I have gay friends who know my position even. I show love to everyone, or do my best to at least. I support gay marriage, I welcome gays to attend my churches.

But the Bible is unambiguous, and it is God's Word.

Well I'd just like to say that many people ANY sex is "sin of the flesh"...In addition to that, ANY sex outside of a marrige is an abomination and condemnable. Throw into that having sex WITHOUT the purpose of procreating, and you have now sinned again. Toss into all of this homosexual sex, and now you really got a mess. Hey, guess what...with 60% divorce rates in this country alone, and the world's population exceeding 6 BILLION we've got a real problem here. Looks like heaven will have lots of room since other than Mother Teresa, no ones gettin' there based on the Scriptures so many quote here. For everyone that says the Bible clearly states it position on homosexual sex, I'm here to tell you that the Bible is even MORE CLEARER on heterosexual set, but it looks like that "lifestyle" is sinning much more than the homosexuals are. Think about it the next time you have sex with your g/f, b/f, or spouses that aren't procreating.

 

[ReformedChapin]

Well I'd just like to say that many people ANY sex is "sin of the flesh"...In addition to that, ANY sex outside of a marrige is an abomination and condemnable. Throw into that having sex WITHOUT the purpose of procreating, and you have now sinned again. Toss into all of this homosexual sex, and now you really got a mess. Hey, guess what...with 60% divorce rates in this country alone, and the world's population exceeding 6 BILLION we've got a real problem here. Looks like heaven will have lots of room since other than Mother Teresa, no ones gettin' there based on the Scriptures so many quote here. For everyone that says the Bible clearly states it position on homosexual sex, I'm here to tell you that the Bible is even MORE CLEARER on heterosexual set, but it looks like that "lifestyle" is sinning much more than the homosexuals are. Think about it the next time you have sex with your g/f, b/f, or spouses that aren't procreating.

So there isn't going to be very many people in heaven...so what? What's your point? Do you even have one?

 

[savedandhappy1]

"Helped out financially with Jesus' ministry??" That's new one for me, but don't want to get into what is being taught out there in Bible Schools etc.

Luke 8:1-3
And it came to pass afterward, that he went throughout every city and village, preaching and shewing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God: and the twelve were with him,

2And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils, 3And Joanna the wife of Chuza Herod's steward, and Susanna, and many others, which ministered unto him of their substance.

Haven't been to any Bible Schools, and again I would have to ask why that would be bad if I had?

Mary Magdalene is a primarily Christian figure who is mentioned several times in areas of significance in the New Testament Gospels. Her identity is often conflated with those of other women, which may have led to her faulty identification as a reformed prostitute.

http://www.magdalene.org/persp_trad.php

Mary Magdalene
Meet the real friend and follower of Jesus.
by Liz Curtis Higgs


Was she the wife of Jesus, the mother of his children, or the Holy Grail, as The Da Vinci Code claims? Or the repentant prostitute of Jesus Christ Superstar, throwing herself at the Master's feet and singing, "I Don't Know How to Love Him"?

According to Scripture, Mary Magdalene was none of the above.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/tcw/2006/003/6.28.html

If you would have checked the links you would have seen that this info was gotten from them and from reading the bible, which you can do without going to Bible School.

Most definately Mary Magdaline was there for the cruicifixation of CHrist, and the first to bear witness to the empty tomb when Jesus ressurected. While she was never called a "prostitute" she was referred to as with with "questionable character". Through all the interpretations, she has now been referred to simply "the prostitute". Of course, there are those that say she married Chrsit, had kids, their relatives living in France....let's just not go there.

Yes, she was there at the crucifixion and she was at the empty tomb after Jesus was ressurected.

There are other pages which come right out and tell how it has been erroniously thought that she was a prostitute and/or had a questionable background or questionable character as you call it. If you have scriptures or other articles that tell of this questionable character I would love to study them, Thanks.

I was not bashing you for your beliefs, I simply making a comment. Being from the Bible Belt, and being a fundie, you can not see how it looks to those on the outside looking in. Of course there are those that fit the entire spectrum. As you know, it is the frindge that gets the attention, and as such, it is the fundamentalist "frindge" that has given fundamentalists the bad name. If you were to meet an Islamic and they told you they were a fundamentalist...how would you react? Perhaps not as violent, but Christian fundamentalist, by it's true definition, and by the very definitoin in this forum, is a militant orthadox. Those "3 things" in and of themselves are not shocking nor necessary bad. One can totally believe in the fundamental teachings of the Bible, and be conservative, and be in the Bible Belt...It is when those three positions are taken to an exteme, and then those extremes hijack what they were originally meant to be, is when it is a bit of an issue. Unfortunately, being on the outside looking in, reading many of these posts, etc..I would have to say that you sound more tolerant than most.

Tolerant?

I call, what I believe a sin is, a sin and I will not sugarcoat it so as not to step on toes, but in stating those things I have to remember that we all are sinners. That we all have sinned and will sin again till we are totally changed at our death or His return. In doing this I have been called a hater, bigot, etc.

I also believe that it is my duty to speak the truth as I know it, and to plant seeds for the Holy Spirit to harvest for the Kingdom of God. I won't stop doing that because someone calls me names or gets upset, unless I am led to stop by the Lord. I left this forum several weeks ago because we were just saying the same thing over and over again. We were attacking eachother and not the subject/homosexuality, and that is wrong and gets us nowhere. IMO.

Anyhow I just stopped by to see if anything new was going on, and I see that it isn't. I noticed your post about Mary Magdalene and since I had just studied about her, on my own, using the Bible and on-line sites, I thought I would post some of what I found and how most scholars now believe she was not a prostitute.

Good Day All.
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[UnitedInChrist]

How old are you? Is calling someone gay because they are fighting for the bible going to make the issue go away? Honestly, if you're a christian at all like you claim to be then you can atleast be honest.

And I come here becuase I feel like..why are you here?

I'm a 35 year old gay man. I come here because as a homosexual Christian, I hold a keen interest in how it is being portrayed in something referred to as a Christian Forum. As such, I am really not interested in sharing gay stories with other gay people because I don't learn by it. What I do gain from this thread is people whom are not gay, and practice all forms of Christianity, to see how they differ.

This all started as research for me for a paper that I am doing. It spun into something else. Some stereotypes have been shattered, and others just have been reinforced. What I find true though in almost 99% of the posts here, (as well as in other threads on ths forum), that while people profess to be of a denomination, or a non-denominations (which is denomination in and off itself most disagree with at least one aspect of what their religion tells them. For example, many Catholics believing in birth control, or a Fundamentalist saying they believe homosexuality is not learned, etc...

I have never met nor do I know any Calvinsts. You say you are one, but I still don't know what it means only because you just say you are one, and that's all. I am curious though...because you believe so strongly in the Bible, why do you follow a "John Calvin" and his take on Scripture rather than just being a non-denominational Christian? You keep saying the Bible clearly says this, and the Bible says that...but you're a follower of a man called John Calvin and his beliefs. That does not say, you think he is Christ...but it does say you do give much power to a man since you follow a religion that is named after him. I mean we have Baptist, and Catholic, and Protestants, and all those terms. But when someone has a faith named after a man, I'm curious as to what causes one to jump on board. I'm not joking. I'd like to know. Thanks.

 

[ReformedChapin]

I'm a 35 year old gay man. I come here because as a homosexual Christian, I hold a keen interest in how it is being portrayed in something referred to as a Christian Forum. As such, I am really not interested in sharing gay stories with other gay people because I don't learn by it. What I do gain from this thread is people whom are not gay, and practice all forms of Christianity, to see how they differ.

This all started as research for me for a paper that I am doing. It spun into something else. Some stereotypes have been shattered, and others just have been reinforced. What I find true though in almost 99% of the posts here, (as well as in other threads on ths forum), that while people profess to be of a denomination, or a non-denominations (which is denomination in and off itself most disagree with at least one aspect of what their religion tells them. For example, many Catholics believing in birth control, or a Fundamentalist saying they believe homosexuality is not learned, etc...

I have never met nor do I know any Calvinsts. You say you are one, but I still don't know what it means only because you just say you are one, and that's all. I am curious though...because you believe so strongly in the Bible, why do you follow a "John Calvin" and his take on Scripture rather than just being a non-denominational Christian? You keep saying the Bible clearly says this, and the Bible says that...but you're a follower of a man called John Calvin and his beliefs. That does not say, you think he is Christ...but it does say you do give much power to a man since you follow a religion that is named after him. I mean we have Baptist, and Catholic, and Protestants, and all those terms. But when someone has a faith named after a man, I'm curious as to what causes one to jump on board. I'm not joking. I'd like to know. Thanks.

Calvinism doesn't necesserly follow the attributes which John Calvin taught. Although I have read several of his commentaries there is different theologically positions in calvinism. I strongly adhere to reformed theology commonly known by the acronym TULIP. I have spend several months researching this topic and I am convinced that calvinism best represents scripture. If you have any further questions about reformed theology and why I switched my icon please pm me. This forum isn't about debating the arminist vs calvinist position or reformed theology.

 

[UnitedInChrist]

I'm a 35 year old gay man. I come here because as a homosexual Christian, I hold a keen interest in how it is being portrayed in something referred to as a Christian Forum. As such, I am really not interested in sharing gay stories with other gay people because I don't learn by it. What I do gain from this thread is people whom are not gay, and practice all forms of Christianity, to see how they differ.

This all started as research for me for a paper that I am doing. It spun into something else. Some stereotypes have been shattered, and others just have been reinforced. What I find true though in almost 99% of the posts here, (as well as in other threads on ths forum), that while people profess to be of a denomination, or a non-denominations (which is denomination in and off itself most disagree with at least one aspect of what their religion tells them. For example, many Catholics believing in birth control, or a Fundamentalist saying they believe homosexuality is not learned, etc...

I have never met nor do I know any Calvinsts. You say you are one, but I still don't know what it means only because you just say you are one, and that's all. I am curious though...because you believe so strongly in the Bible, why do you follow a "John Calvin" and his take on Scripture rather than just being a non-denominational Christian? You keep saying the Bible clearly says this, and the Bible says that...but you're a follower of a man called John Calvin and his beliefs. That does not say, you think he is Christ...but it does say you do give much power to a man since you follow a religion that is named after him. I mean we have Baptist, and Catholic, and Protestants, and all those terms. But when someone has a faith named after a man, I'm curious as to what causes one to jump on board. I'm not joking. I'd like to know. Thanks.

Actually I did some diging on John Calvin and came up with this.....

Calvin did not reject the Scholastics of the Middle Ages outright but rather made use of them and reformed their thoughts in accordance with his understanding of the Bible.

ok...my question to you...today, in 2007, people interpreting the Bible other than the way one thinks, is called "twisting the scripture" or "rewriting the Bible", or getting it to support something other than what is meant. Back in the 16th Century, people like Clavin and Luther, etc...did just that. In Calvins own bio, it says "reformed their thoughts in accordance with his understanding"
Today these scholors have millions of followers all over the globe, you being one of them...and as of late...me as well (I've been going to the Lutheran Church). So why was that a good thing then, but not now? Evangelicals come up with new spins all the time. There are churches popping up over nite saying God was in hell and became a sinner and was tortured, and then ressurected. Others will say God was all about wealth and prosperity, etc.. These folks get TV shows outta the deal, and have schools erected in their names. They get all sorts of people flocking to them. As far as I'm concerned, the way you feel about homosexuality, is the way I feel about the "blab it and grab it" ministries that are all over the Bible Belt. To me, they have distorted the entire Bible...but guess what...they get away with it b/c people will always flock to something that tells them they can get rich by praying and not working. Wish all those folks were as accepting of homosexuality and what the Bible says. Nothing in the Bible has ever said "pray for $$$...be wealthy...as a christian u deserve it...".. Riches and prosperity were never meant to be in the monetary sense, but as usual....I digress. If I were to post this in the Word of Faith room...I'd be burned at the stake. It's the core of their teaching. It's all over TBS, huge schools built for them, tons of people going, and guess what...Haigen just laughs all the way to the bank...because he's the one blabin' and grabin....'nuff said.

 

[ReformedChapin]

Actually I did some diging on John Calvin and came up with this.....

Calvin did not reject the Scholastics of the Middle Ages outright but rather made use of them and reformed their thoughts in accordance with his understanding of the Bible.

ok...my question to you...today, in 2007, people interpreting the Bible other than the way one thinks, is called "twisting the scripture" or "rewriting the Bible", or getting it to support something other than what is meant. Back in the 16th Century, people like Clavin and Luther, etc...did just that. In Calvins own bio, it says "reformed their thoughts in accordance with his understanding"
Today these scholors have millions of followers all over the globe, you being one of them...and as of late...me as well (I've been going to the Lutheran Church). So why was that a good thing then, but not now? Evangelicals come up with new spins all the time. There are churches popping up over nite saying God was in hell and became a sinner and was tortured, and then ressurected. Others will say God was all about wealth and prosperity, etc.. These folks get TV shows outta the deal, and have schools erected in their names. They get all sorts of people flocking to them. As far as I'm concerned, the way you feel about homosexuality, is the way I feel about the "blab it and grab it" ministries that are all over the Bible Belt. To me, they have distorted the entire Bible...but guess what...they get away with it b/c people will always flock to something that tells them they can get rich by praying and not working. Wish all those folks were as accepting of homosexuality and what the Bible says. Nothing in the Bible has ever said "pray for $$$...be wealthy...as a christian u deserve it...".. Riches and prosperity were never meant to be in the monetary sense, but as usual....I digress. If I were to post this in the Word of Faith room...I'd be burned at the stake. It's the core of their teaching. It's all over TBS, huge schools built for them, tons of people going, and guess what...Haigen just laughs all the way to the bank...because he's the one blabin' and grabin....'nuff said.

Listen to me ok and stop taking everything here so personal and be objective even if this affects you personally. Anyone who perposefully perverts the scripture for their on gain and doesn't interpret the scripture as objectivelly as possible is sinning and twisting God's word. This often happens with the homosexual argument as well as many other unbiblal arguments. And I don't support riches and prosperity, I support good biblical hermantics and suffering for Christ.

Everything that you brought up I'm sorry to say is irrelevant to this debate.

 

[Sign Of The Fish Burger]

I'm wondering why this thread wasn't just named "Let's all gang up and jump on NewGuy because he doesn't believe in homosexuality?" Because any good discussion you guys might have had in mind here (and I don't think a good discussion was your intent at all) was just blown with your constant ganging up thing. This looks like a gang of kids ganing up on one other on a playground. Sorry but I'm calling it like I see it.

How would I treat a homosexual? I would treat you like I would treat any other "associate" of mine. I would be nice to you sure, no problem there. But I'm going to be truthful here, you asked. I would not have a close friendship with you or invite you to my home or anything like that. In other words, a homosexual of either gender would NEVER be in my inner circle of friends. For one thing I believe that homosexuality is clearly an abdomination to the Lord. Scripture couldn't be more clear on that one. I would not expose my children, my home, or myself to values that I do not believe in. I'm not politically correct and I don't care to be. I don't want to have to explain to God one day why I went against His word and joined with the word of the world. That's just how it is guys! You can pick, rant, rave, say I spelled wrong, whatever. I think that what you do is wrong and more so I think you know its wrong. And I'm still not at all sure what your point was with this thread.

Don't bother with scripture trying to change my mind here. I know what the Lord says on this one. And as Shakespeare said, "Even Satan can quote scripture for his cause" right?
Lesley

Do you believe the earth revolves around the sun???


*walks away snickering*

 

[ReformedChapin]

Do you believe the earth revolves around the sun???


*walks away snickering*

The bible says that?

 

[Sign Of The Fish Burger]

The bible says that?

 

[ReformedChapin]

I was being sarcastic...

 

[LesleyDuckworth]

Homosexual sex, maybe - and even that's dubious, 'cos it depends on exactly how one interprets about half a dozen verses which are actually far more ambiguously worded than their English translation might suggest. But where on earth do you get the idea that Scripture has anything to say about homosexuality?

David.

You know as well as I know that its mentioned in the Old and New Testament. I'm sure you've read the scriptures 100 times.
Homosexual sex and Homosexuality is different? Come on and give me a break here! You are twisting things around to make yourself feel better. Whatever...
Facts are its a sin. I read that sin should not be something that Christians tolerate, but something that they speak out against.
You know its wrong. You know that the Bible which is God's word unless you'd like to go against that too says that homosexuality is an abomination of God.
It is what it is.

 

[LesleyDuckworth]

Rick, I believe you have your Mary's mixed up? Mary Magdalene wasn't a prostitute she was the woman that Jesus cast 7 demons out of, and one of the people who helped financially with Jesus's ministry.

http://www.magdalene.org/persp_trad.php

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Magdalene

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/135/story_13527_1.html

http://www.christianitytoday.com/tcw/2006/003/6.28.html

I am one of those people who lives in the Bible Belt, has been called a fundamentalist, and I have been told that I am conservative, so you probably....................................

I find it shocking that those 3 things are stated as bad things, frankly. I also find it hard to understand why saying something is a sin is considered to be judging and condemning? Yet calling those who believe that the Bible calls something a sin a hater, bigot, etc. isn't judging or condemning. Really confusing

I don't understand how hoping and praying that all ask forgiveness for their sins, since all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, makes a person a hater and a bigot?

Jesus told people to go and sin no more, not yeah I know this or that is a sin, but I love you so much I will just pretend it isn't.

I guess that someone will go and count my post now and make some statement as to what that means. I wonder what bad thing it could mean for all the post I have done in the Prayer Request section? I guess they probably won't count tho since I probably have more post in the homosexuality section anyway. Speaking of judging...................................

Now I know why I have taken the last few weeks to study, pray and do other things beside post and visit here. I think I will go back to doing that, since there is nothing new here.

Have a good day all.
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You are right! Nowhere in the Bible does it affirm that Mary M. was a prostitute. People say this to further their cause, one more way to turn around the scriptures.

Also as you say, I REFUSE to sit back and ignore that this is a sin. They know good and well that homosexuality is a sin. They just want to think it isn't so they will feel better.

I think that they can be forgiven, in fact, I know they can. But first they have to have remose and repent of their sin of homosexuality. When they truly do that, I believe that God will heal them. Until then, they will just twist and turn things to try to make it right in their minds.
Calling someone a biggot is just them wanting to make themselves feel better once again. You can't really pay it any attention. Obviously, they are all desperate to have people agree with them and make them feel that their sinful thoughts are ok. Otherwise, they would not have started this thread!
Lesley in NC

 

[LesleyDuckworth]

Do you believe the earth revolves around the sun???


*walks away snickering*

Do you believe that homosexuals have a place in heaven? I don't and the Bible in fact, says that!

Snicker at that all you want dear! You'll not be snickering on judgement day!