Wordkeeper said in post #375:
The Law of liberty and love allows the situation to decide if works are needed.
Works are always needed, ultimately (James 2:24, Romans 2:6-8).
Wordkeeper said in post #375:
God wanted to keep Israel separated from the Gentile nations . . .
That's right, with regard to Old Covenant Israel.
For in Ephesians 2:15, "the enmity" which has now been abolished included the "unclean"-Gentile concept of the Old Covenant (Ezra 9:11-14), which was removed under the New Covenant (Acts 10:28) on the Cross of Jesus Christ (Ephesians 2:11-19).
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Wordkeeper said in post #376:
(Verdict for the Gentiles)
25 As He says also in Hosea,
“I WILL CALL THOSE WHO WERE NOT MY PEOPLE, ‘MY PEOPLE,’
AND HER WHO WAS NOT BELOVED, ‘BELOVED.’”
26 “AND IT SHALL BE THAT IN THE PLACE WHERE IT WAS SAID TO THEM, ‘YOU ARE NOT MY PEOPLE,’
THERE THEY SHALL BE CALLED SONS OF THE LIVING GOD.”
Romans 9:25-26 applies to Jewish and Gentile elect people (Romans 9:24-26), who, while they are non-Christians (Romans 11:28), are not God's people insofar as they are not grafted into the good olive tree of Israel (Romans 11:20). But when they become Christians, they become God's people insofar as they get grafted into the good olive tree of Israel (Romans 11:17,24).
The subsequent context of Romans 9:25-26 shows that there the apostle Paul is thinking of "Israel" in the sense of Jews who mistakenly think that they can attain to righteousness by keeping the letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law (Romans 9:30 to 10:13).
Wordkeeper said in post #376:
The text doesn’t say in Galatians 3:14 that the Kingdom is given to Israel.
Neither does it deny it. For Christian Jews (1 Corinthians 12:13) are also given the Kingdom of God (Hebrews 12:28, Romans 14:17).
Wordkeeper said in post #376:
The text does say in Matthew 21:41 that the Kingdom is taken away from Israel.
Not all of Israel (Romans 11:1-5).
Wordkeeper said in post #376:
It also says it is not known when it will be given back in Acts 1:4-9
The question in Acts 1:6 is answered elsewhere in the Bible (Acts 3:20-21, Zechariah 14:3-21).
That is, regarding "restoring the kingdom" to Israel (Acts 1:6), it means restoring the kingdom of Israel in a physical way in which it will bear fruit (Matthew 21:43), which will not happen until Jesus Christ's future, Second Coming (Acts 3:20-21, Zechariah 14:3-21).
Presently, the Kingdom of God is in heaven (2 Timothy 4:18, Hebrews 12:22-24), and is on the earth spiritually within Christians (Romans 14:17, Luke 17:21). But in the future, the Kingdom will come fully upon the earth as it is in heaven (Matthew 6:10). It will also be physically (Luke 22:30, Matthew 19:28) on the earth (Revelation 5:10), first during the future Millennium (Revelation 20:4-6, Revelation 2:26-29, Psalms 66:3-4, Psalms 72:8-11, Zechariah 14:3-21), and then forever on the New Earth (Revelation 21:1-8), as in a new surface for the earth.
Jesus Christ's Kingdom is Israel (John 1:49, John 12:13-15, John 19:19, Luke 22:30). And at His future, Second Coming, He will sit on the earthly throne of King David (Luke 1:32-33, Isaiah 9:7) and restore the kingdom to Israel (Acts 1:6-7, Acts 3:20-21). Jesus is, in His humanity, the son of David (Matthew 1:1, Matthew 21:15-16, Romans 1:3), of the house of David (Luke 1:69). So at Jesus' Second Coming, He will restore the tabernacle, the house, of David (Isaiah 16:5, Amos 9:11) to its royal glory (2 Samuel 5:12), which it had lost (2 Kings 17:21a). And Jesus will fulfill the prophecy and prayer of 2 Samuel 7:16-29. And He will bring salvation to all of the still-living, non-Christian elect Jews of the house of David. For they (along with all other still-living, non-Christian elect Jews) will become Christians when they see Jesus at His Second Coming (Zechariah 12:10-14, Zechariah 13:1,6, Romans 11:26-31). And so they will all become part of the Church at that time. For there are no Christians outside of the Church (Ephesians 4:4-6).
After Jesus Christ's future, Second Coming (Revelation 19:7 to 20:3, Zechariah 14:3-5) will occur the Millennium (Revelation 20:4-6, Zechariah 14:8-21), during which time the Gentile nations will come to seek the returned Jesus ruling the whole earth (Zechariah 8:22, Zechariah 14:9, Psalms 72:8-11) on the restored throne of David (Isaiah 9:7) in the earthly Jerusalem (Isaiah 2:1-4, Zechariah 14:8-11,16-19). And the physically resurrected Church will reign on the earth with Jesus during the Millennium (Revelation 20:4-6, Revelation 5:10, Revelation 2:26-29). For the Church is Israel (Romans 11:1,17,24, Ephesians 2:12,19, Galatians 3:29, Revelation 21:9,12; 1 Peter 2:9-10).
Wordkeeper said in post #376:
We must determine what is meant by Jews and if they retain their Jewishness when they become Christians.
Of course they do (Acts 22:3).
Wordkeeper said in post #376:
So Israel exists, but not Judaism . . .
Both exist. For Christianity is New Covenant Judaism. For the New Covenant is made only with Israel (Jeremiah 31:31). Christian Gentiles are grafted into Israel so that they can partake of the salvation offered by God to Israel (Romans 11:17,24, Ephesians 2:12,19, Galatians 3:29, John 10:16). And all Christians, whether Jews (Acts 22:3) or Gentiles (Romans 16:4b), have become spiritually-circumcised Jews if they have undergone the spiritual circumcision of water-immersion (burial) baptism into Jesus (Romans 2:29, Philippians 3:3, Colossians 2:11-13).
Wordkeeper said in post #376:
The remnant are identified by grace, not obedient, because no Jew has ever fulfilled the Law, perfectly obeyed it.
Regarding "no Jew has ever fulfilled the Law", see Luke 1:6.
Regarding "the remnant are identified by grace", that's right (Galatians 2:16).
The two verses are compatible, based on Galatians 3:19-25.
Wordkeeper said in post #376:
However, they are a vessel of dishonor . . .
Only nonelect individuals are vessels of dishonor/wrath, and they include both some Jews and some Gentiles, such as Pharaoh (Romans 9:17-22).
Elect Jews are vessels of honor/mercy, just as elect Gentiles are (Romans 9:23-24).
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Wordkeeper said in post #377:
It’s clear that no Jews exists because being a Jew means being someone who observes all of the requirements of a covenant . . .
Including the New Covenant (Jeremiah 31:31, Matthew 26:28).
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Wordkeeper said in post #378:
1 Corinthians 15:22 does not say we sinned in Adam.
Romans 5:19a does.
Wordkeeper said in post #378:
[Re: 1 Corinthians 15:22]
It’s very clear that spiritual life is being talked about, not physical life, because when we accept Christ, we are already physically alive.
1 Corinthians 15:22b is referring to future resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:21b).
But 1 Corinthians 15:22b does not (as is sometimes claimed) assure a resurrection to eternal life.
For whereas even non-Christians will be resurrected (Revelation 20:12-15; 1 Corinthians 15:22), this will be to their damnation (John 5:29b) in the eternal suffering of the lake of fire and brimstone, with Satan and his fallen angels (Matthew 25:41,46, Revelation 20:10,15, Revelation 14:10-11, Mark 9:45-46).
Wordkeeper said in post #378:
Law comes into force when a person can tell right from wrong.
Note that sin and death reigned in the fallen Adam even before the law came into force (Romans 5:13-14).
And that's why infants have died, even before the law, and even before they could tell right from wrong.
Wordkeeper said in post #378:
That’s why in case of the insane and minors, where they can’t tell right from wrong, where there is no law, where law does not apply, there is no transgression.
There is still original sin (Romans 5:19a), and so mortality (Romans 6:23).
Otherwise, why are they mortal? Why do they still die?
Wordkeeper said in post #378:
The Jews are Ishmael, Christians are Isaac!
Only Old Covenant Jews are Ishmael, while New Covenant Jews (1 Corinthians 12:13), along with New Covenant Gentiles, are Isaac (Galatians 4:21-31).
For the letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law is the Hagar to the New Covenant's Sarah (Galatians 4:21-25). So those people, whether Jews or Gentiles, who try to keep the letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law are like Ishmael, Abraham's son by a bondmaid (Galatians 4:22), who was cast out (Galatians 4:30), while those people, whether Jews or Gentiles, who keep the New Covenant are like Isaac (Galatians 4:28), Abraham's son by a freewoman (Galatians 4:22,31), who became his heir (Galatians 4:30b).
Wordkeeper said in post #378:
No more Jews are present, only Christians, in the People of God.
Note that Christians include both Jews (Acts 22:3) and Gentiles (Romans 16:4b).
Wordkeeper said in post #378:
All, sheep of Israel and sheep of the rest of the world, enter, and become Christians They don’t become Jews.
They do become spiritually-circumcised Jews if they undergo the spiritual circumcision of water-immersion (burial) baptism into Jesus (Romans 2:29, Philippians 3:3, Colossians 2:11-13).
Wordkeeper said in post #378:
So you admit men can hear and see God.
Only some men (e.g. 1 Samuel 3; John 14:9).
Wordkeeper said in post #378:
You contradicted the Post #369 in which you claim real things can’t be seen:
Note that it has never been said that real things can't be seen.
Instead, it was said that it's possible for real things to be invisible, just as God the Father is invisible (1 John 4:12a).
Wordkeeper said in post #378:
Nonsensical and mistaken are the same.
No, for mistaken can be sensical. For example, you could mistake one person for someone else because they look very similar.
But nonsensical would be contrary to all sense. Such as saying that the moon is square.
Wordkeeper said in post #378:
No worldview can state that the material world is unreal and not be laughed off the face of the earth.
Note that Hinduism, for example, says that the material world is unreal (maya). But Hinduism has never been laughed away, even though it is mistaken.