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If it can't be demonstrated, it didn't happen.
How can I not believe in fallen angels? I am surrounded by them.I take it you don't believe in fallen angels?
There is no such thing as ”coming into existance old”. Old by definition means its, well old, and that time has passed.
This just an argument from ignorance. It's not a rational position.
It's akin to a toddler hiding their head under a blanket thinking, "if I can't see them, they can't see me."
That is a patently ridiculous statement that merits nothing more than being ignored. I shall assume you misspoke, probably through-over simplification.If it can't be demonstrated, it didn't happen.
No. The onus is on science to investigate the possibility and demonstrate that it either is possible, or is not possible. Until such a demonstration is achieved it remains an open question. You have chosen to close it, which makes you close minded on this issue. That's fine. All of us are likely close minded on something. Just don't expect me to be impressed by it in this context.The onus is on you proving it's possible.
Here's a hypothetical, just for you:
If you could go back in time and take everything you know now with you, would you have gotten on the Ark?
(Please start your answer out with either a YES or NO, so I can decide if I want to read the rest or not. Thanks.)
Are you referring to different ways to be infinite?
You made the apparently serious statement
that it's impossible to have any facts about
" god" because it's infinite, then you give
an example of an infinite sets about which
facts are readily available.
How you determined that "god" exists, how
you determined it's infinite and what quality
this special -order "type" of infinity makes it
Impossible to have any facts
(like that it exists or is infinite?) Is left out.
You would probably benefit from becoming familiar with these subjects by first reading - Infinity and the Mind: The Science and Philosophy of the Infinite (Princeton Science Library Book 63) You may need to read some other stuff but this is a good start. Come back after you have read it and then you will have the knowledge to discuss it with me further. You will learn about the different types of infinities, the subtleties of mathematical versus real world objects, limitations of mathematics considered within the mathematical world, theoretical physical world and real life world (such as engineering etc.). Happy reading!
Now you know why I'm not a YEC.To put the ominous on God for an old age looking Earth that is believed to actually be a young earth makes God out to be untruthful.
Would they accept you into their fold?I absolutely love the Beguines!!!
Irregardless of what you want to think, I am neither Apparent Age, nor YEC.Probably one of the biggest problems for fundamentalist Christians and YEC arguing apparent age (being young when it appears old) is deception.
I'm sure if you went back there in time, you would have a legitimate reason to "alter your thinking."No - because my thinking would have been updated from new knowledge and evidence - what I know now would have to change. There would be a ligit reason to alter my thinking.
No.Bertrand Russell White said:I will ask the same type of question - "If you travelled on an advanced scientific ship to other parts of the universe and saw all aspects of chemical evolution occurring at different stages over billions of years (ship was so advanced as to allow for this) leading to life, would you accept that perhaps life may have occurred by chemical evolution that way on earth?" (I'm not even going to specify anything about god being behind it or not).
Fine. Then so are you.Yes you are.
I don't see anything necessarily obscurantic about these things. Do we really understand electricity beyond how we describe it with mathematical equations such as with quantum electrodynamics? We don't even understand the "how" exactly for flight (although I believe this issue will be resolved at some point with an updated scientific understanding)- see Scientific American from a couple of years ago. We can understand the "how" through science but do we really understand the "why".
In the Christian way of thinking, what you are trying to call facts are called beliefs. Christians would say that if all you can conceive of is the world in terms of "how" and don't allow for faith, then you can never get any understanding in terms of "why". When science moves from insisting on methodological naturalism (which I think is a good thing for everyone including religions) to metaphysical naturalism, then it is no longer just science.
The Beguines have some of the most profound and insightful thinking in all of Christian mysticism and mysticism in general. Whether you agree with it or not, it predates what we today we call modern depth psychology by hundreds of years. Remarkable.
No, but tell me, how long has the universe existed?Fine. Then so are you.
No thanks.
You can't explain your position in simple
words which is a sign you don't know what you're
talking about.
Irregardless of what you want to think, I am neither Apparent Age, nor YEC.
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