What is the difficulty of getting into heaven?

[fhansen]

Well, you and God alone know best how perfectly you love

 

[servant7777]

Well, you and God alone know best how perfectly you love

God knows how perfectly all good trees love.


Matthew 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

 

[servant7777]

We know them by their fruits, if they bring forth hatred, they are not of God..


Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.


1 John 2:10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.

 

[servant7777]

Well, you and God alone know best how perfectly you love

Also the testimony is WHOSOEVER IS BORN OF GOD...


1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

 

[Soyeong]

Look at your own description, don't ignore it.

You claim Gods will is made known by what Jesus did in the law.

But nobody could understand God, nobody knows the Father, but who the Son reveals Him to.

Nobody is capable of learning about God, they can not learn anything from seeing what Jesus did in Israel.

The way to know God is through expressing His nature, God's law is His instructions for how to know him because it is His instructions for how to express His nature, and Jesus is the embodiment or the way to know the Father because is he the exact expression of God's nature (Hebrews 1:3), which he embodied by living in sinless obedience to God's law. In Exodus 33:13, Moses wanted God to be gracious to him by teaching him His way that he might know Him, and in Matthew 7:23, Jesus said that he would tell those who are workers of lawlessness to depart from him because he never knew them, so knowing God and Jesus is the goal of the law, which is eternal life (John 17:3).

That is why the entire Gospel is telling the parables of the Kingdom of Heaven, for belief in Heaven. ( this was never told in the law as the law is of the earth and not of Heaven) the law is for earthly man to do his earthliness and to keep his earthly sabbath too.

In Matthew 7:21-23, Jesus said that only those who do the will of the Father will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, and the Father has straightforwardly made His will know through what He has commanded (Psalms 40:8), especially when Jesus contrasted those who do the will of the Father with those who are workers of lawlessness.

Jesus gave the parables as they speak of the righteousness He came to fulfil ( His dying for our sins) and He did it.

Jesus said nothing about dying for our sins in Matthew 5.

That is the only way anyone can understand and believe in anything Jesus spoke and did in the Gospel, without it, they cant( they only receive the Spirit through the hearing of faith, and faith is Christ faithfully rising from the dead, it is how we receive the Spirit to believe just that.

In Matthew 4:17-23, Jesus began his ministry with the Gospel message to repent for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand, and God's law is how his audience knew what they should be repenting from transgressing, so again obedience to it is directly connected with the Kingdom of Heaven.

THIS IS HOW THE SPIRIT FALLS ON US( hearing and believing Christ died and rose the third day)


Acts 10:39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:
40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;
41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.
42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.
43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

In Ezekiel 36:26-27, the Spirit has the role of leading us to obey God's law.

Galatians 3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

I have only spoken in favor of obeying the Law of God, not works of the law.

Soyeong you are rebuked, you know what you are doing is to cause doubt for Christians to begin following torah law, it is very bad of you to not stop even though you have nothing to say to me.

It is strange that you would rebuke me for saying that followers of God should follow the law God has commanded in accordance with what Jesus spent his ministry teaching us to do by word and by example, especially when the Bible repeatedly calls for us to repent and obey it. Christ set a sinless example for us to follow of how to obey God's law, so he is the man of lawfulness, which is in contrast with 2 Thessalonians 2:3 describing the Anti-Christ as the man of lawlessness, so if you want to rebuke me for teaching people to follow Christ instead of the Anti-Christ, then you have that freedom. In 2 Timothy 3:15-17, Paul said that OT Scripture is profitable for teaching, correction, rebuke, training in righteousness that the man of God may be complete, equipped to do every good work, so it is profitable for me to rebuke you for following the Anti-Christ.

 

[Soyeong]

The will of God is our sanctification, we cant be sanctified by Jesus obeying Torah law. That is why Christ came to give His life a ransom for us. ( to sanctify us once and for all)

In Psalms 119:142, God's law is truth, in Psalms 119:160, the sum of God's word is truth, and John 1:14, so he is God's law, the truth, and the word made flesh, which is in accordance with him claiming in John 14:6 to be the way, the truth, and the life, which is also evidence by the fact that he set a sinless example of how to walk in obedience to God's law. God's law is God's word and in John 17:17, it says to sanctify them in truth and that God's word is truth. Our sanctification is about being made to be like Christ and Christ lived in obedience to the Torah. In Titus 2:14, Jesus gave himself to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good works, so the way to believe that Christ came to give his life as a ransom for us is by becoming zealous for doing good works in obedience to the Torah (Acts 21:20).

Thus knowledge of Christ is not understood by those in the law( as they are flesh and carnal man) it can only be understood in the Spirit( given strictly to us by believing in the rising of Christ from the dead) zero to do with absolutely anything else.

In Romans 8:4-7, those who walk in the Spirit are contrasted with those who have carnal minds or those set on the flesh who are enemies of God who refuse to submit to His law. In Galatians 5:19-22, everything listed as carnal works of the flesh that are against the Spirit are also against God's law, while all of the fruits of the Spirit are in accordance with it. In John 2:4, those who say that they know Christ, but do not obey his commands are liars and the truth is not in them, and in 1 John 3:4-6, those who continue to practice sin in transgression of God's law have neither seen nor known him.

This is the way as testified, the one perfect sacrifice offering is what forgives our sins and lets us know God all at once( without believing this we can know nothing, for ever):

1 Thessalonians 4:3 For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication:
4 That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour;
5 Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God:

Fornication is against God's law.

[quoote]Hebrews 10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.[/QUOTE]

Sanctification involves God putting His laws in our hearts and writing them on our minds, but you want nothing to do with that.

 

[servant7777]

The way to know God is through expressing His nature, God's law is His instructions for how to know him because it is His instructions for how to express His nature, and Jesus is the embodiment or the way to know the Father because is he the exact expression of God's nature (Hebrews 1:3), which he embodied by living in sinless obedience to God's law. In Exodus 33:13, Moses wanted God to be gracious to him by teaching him His way that he might know Him, and in Matthew 7:23, Jesus said that he would tell those who are workers of lawlessness to depart from him because he never knew them, so knowing God and Jesus is the goal of the law, which is eternal life (John 17:3).



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Jesus expressed the nature to know God who is eternal life, and all Jesus taught and testified is for belief in that eternal life( in God) THROUGH BELIEVING HE ROSE TO ETERNAL LIFE.


Again it is easily proven against your empty talk of law, that Jesus came to give us an understanding ( we cant have it but by belief He rose to life eternal)


You cannot show anyway we receive the Spirit other than the hearing of faith as you just ignored Soyeong and are again rebuked by Gods word.




John 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

John 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 12:50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.


1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

Jude 1:21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. ( we receive the love of God by the hearing of faith)


Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

 

[servant7777]

In Romans 8:4-7, those who walk in the Spirit are contrasted with those who have carnal minds or those set on the flesh who are enemies of God who refuse to submit to His law. In Galatians 5:19-22, everything listed as carnal works of the flesh that are against the Spirit are also against God's law, while all of the fruits of the Spirit are in accordance with it. In John 2:4, those who say that they know Christ, but do not obey his commands are liars and the truth is not in them, and in 1 John 3:4-6, those who continue to practice sin in transgression of God's law have neither seen nor known him.



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Those in the law are in the flesh, they cant walk in the Spirit.

How do you think Christ set us free form the law of sin and death ?

By His one offering you are again ignoring and cant ignore.


Nothing Jesus did in the Gospel until laying His life down forgives our sins, or teaches us about eternal life, we see He is life eternal because He layed His life down for us and lived, and we see His love because of giving His life for us ( to believe in the love of God to receive the Spirit.


John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

1 John 3:16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.

 

[servant7777]

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Fornication is against God's law.

[quoote]Hebrews 10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

Sanctification involves God putting His laws in our hearts and writing them on our minds, but you want nothing to do with that.[/QUOTE]


Jesus made the offering and the Spirit is what we receive ( His body and blood i the offering and Spirit we receive)

The law as you keep claiming the people saw Jesus fulfil of the Torah, did not bring any law to man, but the laying down of Christ did.

Sanctification is God giving His Holy Spirit to us, by belief in Christ rising, nothing more, nothing less.

As you also hear so often( and ignore to the best of your ability) love shed into our hearts is that law.


Nobody does fornication when they lay their lives down for the other, they do fornication when they yet believe in death and to take the life off the other, it is by the belief in the life of Christ that causes anyone to stop sinning.




Romans 5:5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

 

[servant7777]

Soyeong, you know you are weak when I answer you, where is your strength, where is your ability to convince the world of Christians to now begin following Torah ?

If you don't believe you are rebuked, then continue to be.

 

[Clare73]

To fulfill the commandments of Christ( through faith in Christ given to die and rise again for our sins) is to fulfil the will of God ( our sanctification)

The Lord is the avenger of anyone who defrauds their brother, that is why we are not justified when we do unjustly. We are justified if we believed in God being just through Christ( Christ dying to justify us with God) then we walk WORTHY.

We are either justified or not. . .our walking does not justify (Romans 3:21, Romans 3:28).

 

[Brightfame52]

Alright,. Like I say go ahead and ignore His word and the gospel as it was received at the beginning. He wants you to have righteousness, but God-righteousness, not self righteousness. But I imagine you know that intuitively anyway, regardless of specific theology, and live your life as if what you do, with and by God's grace, counts.

It appears you are ignoring Gods Word and Christs Righteousness, in favor of your own righteousness.

 

[Soyeong]

Why do you continue to teach( law) repeatedly, but never wish to engage with me, to find out, once and for all, what sin is, and how we are freed from sin, and how that cannot be at all by keeping/observing the law, but is entirely done without the deeds of the law?

Sin is the transgression of God's law (1 John 3:4), so living in obedience to it is inherently part of the concept of being freed from not living in obedience to it.

Jesus cannot show the way to salvation is by keeping the law, when He is the way to salvation, and that there is no salvation without Him dying to break us free from the curse of the law. Also Jesus cannot observe the law when He came to make it honourable, He came to show what faith and love and mercy are, which the law could not reveal, because faith, mercy and the love of God are in what Jesus came to do. Not how He observed a law that cant know what faith love and mercy is, but because He was fulfilling the law, of what was missing from it. ( His kindness, His meekness, His mercy, His faith and the love of God to give His life for us)

In Hebrews 1:3, the Son is the exact expression of God's nature, so he is the personification of God's nature expressed through living in obedience to God's law, and God's nature is the way of salvation, which he showed us. In Deuteronomy 28:1:14, it lists the blessing of living in obedience to the law while verses 15-68 list the curse of living in disobedience to the law, so being set free form the curse of the law is being set free to enjoy the blessing of living in obedience to it. Jesus made the law honorable so that we would obey it. In Matthew 23:23, Jesus said that justice, mercy, and faith are weightier matters of the law, that that the law could not reveal them. Jesus came to live in sinless obedience to God's law, so those aspects of God's nature are part of what he came to show us how to express. Jesus fulfilled the law by teaching us how to correctly obey it by word and by example in accordance with its weightier matters.

Romans 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

While we are justified by faith and do not earn it by works of the law, it would be a mistaken to conclude that our faith therefore abolishes our need to obey God's law because Paul concluded in Romans 3:31 that our faith does not abolish the law, but rather our faith upholds it, yet you seek to abolish it rather than uphold it.

How many times/years, have you kept quoting one verse in 1 John 3, and by doing that you have misinterpreted the whole message ?

Just include one verse next to the one you always state, and the meaning can be seen then.

Sin is the transgression of the law, and that is why Jesus was manifested, to take away our sins( in the law)


1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

I might have to wait years for you to show me how I've taken it our of context. In Romans 3:20, God's law was given to give us knowledge of what sin is, and in Romans 7:7, Paul would not have known what sin is if not for God's law. In Titus 2:14, it does not say that Jesus gave himself to free us from God's law, but in order to free us from all lawlessness, so the freedom that we have in Christ is the freedom from sin, not the freedom to do what God has revealed through His law to be sin.

That way, there is no condemnation( as there is in the law) as they in the law walk in the flesh, but they in Christ walk in the Spirit.

The law then is weak through the flesh.

That Spirit of Christ made us free from the law, which is flesh, sin and death.

The righteousness( same righteousness) that Christ fulfilled( laying His life down for us is the righteousness of God) is fulfilled in us, we lay our lives down for the brothers/another, when we walk after the Spirit ( not the flesh, which is the law, which is sin, which is death)

In Romans 7:25-8:2, Paul contrasted the Law of God with the law of sin and contrasted the Law of the Spirit with the law of sin and death, so he equated the Law of God with the Law of the Spirit of Life by contrasting them both with the law of sin and death. Those who walk in the flesh are always those who are living in transgression of God's law. In Romans 8:4-7, those who walk in the Spirit are contrasted with those who have minds set on the flesh who are enemies of God who refuse to submit to His law.

Proof is right here Soyeong, READ MY WORDS.

WHAT IS NOT OF FAITH IS SIN.

What is not of faith is sin, what is in transgression of God's law is sin, and what is in transgression of God's law is not of faith.

( NOBODY CAN KEEP ANY LAW THEY ARE FOREVER IN SIN)

In Deuteronomy 30:11-20, God said that His law is not to difficult to obey and that obedience brings life and a blessing while disobedience bring death and a curse, so choose life! So it was presented as a possibility and as a choice, not as something nobody can keep. Rather, believing that we can keep it and that it leads to life and a blessing is a matter of putting our faith in what God has said.

IF CHRIST IS NOT RAISED ( ANYONE WHO IS KEEPING LAW AND DOING THE COMMANDMENTS) IS DOING IT IN VAIN, AS THEY ARE YET IN THEIR SINS.

Inserting your own commentary into a verses does not establish the truth of your commentary.

ONLY BY BELIEVING THAT JESUS IS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD, IS HOW WE DO NOT DIE IN OUR SINS.

If you believed that Jesus is the Son if God, then you would express that believe by obeying the Law of God, of which the Son of God is the living embodiment.

Now the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, ( who walk n ot after the law) but after the Spirit. ( For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.)

Again, Romans 8:4-7 contrasts those who walk in the Spirit with those who have minds set on the flesh who are enemies of God who refuse to submit to His law, but you want to believe the opposite of what the Bible says. Walking after the flesh is always walking in transgression of God's law.

Not as Israel going about to establish their own righteousness ( in the law) and thus not submitting themselves to this righteousness of God ( not having knowledge of it/remaining ignorant/unbelieving) For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness. ( Christ ended the law by fulfilling it, and the fulfilling of the righteousness of the law is Christ dying for us to live again.)

Romans 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

In Exodus 33:13, Moses wanted God to be gracious to him by teaching him His way that he might know him, and in Matthew 7:23, Jesus said that he would tell those who are workers of lawlessness to depart from him because he never knew them, so knowing God and Jesus is the goal of the law, which is eternal life (John 17:3). In Romans 9:30-10:4, the Israelites had a zeal for God, but it was not based on knowing him, so they failed to attain righteousness because they misunderstood the goal of the law and pursued it as though righteousness were earned by our works instead of pursing it as through righteousness were by faith in Christ, for knowing Christ is the goal of the law for righteousness for everyone who has faith. In Romans 10:5-10, this faith references Deuteronomy 30:11-16 in regard to saying that God's law is not too difficult to obey, that the one who obeys it will attain life by it, in regard to what we are agreeing to obey when we confess that Jesus is Lord, and in regard to the way to believe that God raised him from the death (Titus 2:14).

Now ( through belief in Christ fulfilling the righteousness of the law through His death and rising again) we yield our bodies as instruments of righteousness to God, as those that are alive from the dead with Him. ( to fulfill the righteousness of the law, through faith, and not through the law, which is not of faith)

The way that our bodies are instruments of righteousness to God is by doing what is righteous in obedience to what He has commanded through His law by faith.

Sin has no dominion over us BECAUSE WE ARE NOT UNDER THE LAW OF FLESH, SIN AND DEATH, WHICH CHRIST SET US FREE FROM THROUGH DYING TO SIN ONCE, AND IN THAT HE LIVES, HE LIVED UNTO GOD.

We shall not sin because WE ARE NOT UNDER THE LAW, but are UNDER GRACE.

Paul described the law that we are not under as being a law where sin had dominion over us, which does not describe the Law of God, which is a law where holiness righteousness and goodness have dominion over us, but rather it is the law of sin where sin had dominion over us. In Romans 6:15, being under grace does not mean that we are permitted to sin, and sin is the transgression of God's law (1 John 3:4), so we are still under it. In Psalms 119:29, David wanted God to be gracious to him by teaching him to obey His law, so that is what it means to be under grace. Furthermore, everything else in Romans 6 is speaking in favor of obedience to God an against sin.

Romans 6:10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.

Romans 6:13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

There is no sense in you thinking that they way to live unto God, to not to be instruments of unrighteousness unto sin, but to be instruments of righteousness unto God is by continuing to live in sin in transgression of God's law and by refusing to obey what He has commanded. The Bible repeatedly calls for us to repent and return to obedience to God, but everything in your posts is arguing against doing that.

 

[Brightfame52]

I agree that Jesus fulfilled all righteousness by living in obedience to God's law, however, you are erroneously concluding that he did that so that we don't have to follow his example rather than that he did that so that we would have an example to follow, and again we are told to follow his example (1 Peter 2:21-22). Again, please explain why you consider relying on what God has instructed is trusting in myself rather than in God.

In Deuteronomy 30:11-20, God said that His law was not too difficult to keep and that obedience to it brings life and a blessing while disobedience brings death and a curse, so choose life! So it was presented as a possibility and as a choice, not as something that we are unable to keep. Furthermore, there are example of people who did keep the law, such as in Joshua 22:1-3 and Luke 1:5-6, and Revelation 14:12 and 22:14 refer to people who kept God's commandments. Nowhere does the Bible say that Jesus fulfilled the law for us so that we don't have to, but rather is consistently calls for people to repent and obey it.

Yes Christ did it because His People couldn't do it. He did it for them, and they walk in faith believing that. You wanna walk in your own law keeping righteousness, good luck with that in the day of Judgment friend.

 

[servant7777]

We are either justified or not. . .our walking does not justify (Romans 3:21, Romans 3:28).

We are justified by belief, and if we do unjustly we don't believe.

Also the righteousness of what Abraham received for believing in God, was made perfect by the offering of His son, to make faith perfect.


Galatians 2:17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.
18 For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.

James 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?


Whoever you are Clare, you are easy to correct.


To think our walking does not justify, is denying these testimonies of God.

Not only it justifies, we are unjust if we walk unjustly.

This causes far of God, otherwise in your way, we wont have any, and you speak against the faith of Christ, who did have to teach us faith, ( the work of God is to believe in Him) and had to show what that belief is ( to believe in) when Christ gave His body in deed and truth) not words clare



1 John 3:16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.


1 John 3:17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?
18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.
19 And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.

 

[servant7777]

Sin is the transgression of God's law (1 John 3:4), so living in obedience to it is inherently part of the concept of being freed from not living in obedience to it.



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Sin is the transgression of Gods law, Christ set us free from sin and that law.



1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.



How did Jesus set us free ? By dying for our sins



Romans 6:10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.





Then we live with Him and that is the law in our heart, which is belief in Christ manifested to take away our sins


Soyeong stop leaving the part that shows heresyc.

 

[servant7777]

In Hebrews 1:3, the Son is the exact expression of God's nature, so he is the personification of God's nature expressed through living in obedience to God's law, and God's nature is the way of salvation, which he showed us. In Deuteronomy 28:1:14, it lists the blessing of living in obedience to the law while verses 15-68 list the curse of living in disobedience to the law, so being set free form the curse of the law is being set free to enjoy the blessing of living in obedience to it. Jesus made the law honorable so that we would obey it. In Matthew 23:23, Jesus said that justice, mercy, and faith are weightier matters of the law, that that the law could not reveal them. Jesus came to live in sinless obedience to God's law, so those aspects of God's nature are part of what he came to show us how to express. Jesus fulfilled the law by teaching us how to correctly obey it by word and by example in accordance with its weightier matters.

Hebrews does not teach us that Christ layed His life down for us, the Gospel does, of the parables of the Kingdom and Christ fulfilling them.


John 20:30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:
31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.



Jesus cant teach love and mercy and judgment in the law, He came to bring them( the judgement of God is the Gospel is to the poor not the rich( in the law, the rich are favoured not the poor, and His mercy and love is giving His life for us, and in the law they take lives, they have no knowledge of mercy or love/in the torah

 

[Soyeong]

Yes Christ did it because His People couldn't do it. He did it for them, and they walk in faith believing that. You wanna walk in your own law keeping righteousness, good luck with that in the day of Judgment friend.

Of course there is nothing in the Bible that says Jesus obeyed the law because His people couldn't do it, but rather God said that His law is not too difficult to obey, and there are many examples where the Bible records that people kept it, so the Bible says the opposite, but you won't allow it to inform your position. It's God's law, not my law. In Romans 2:13, it says that only doers of the law will be justified, in Matthew 19:17, Jesus said that the way to enter eternal life is by obeying His commandments, and in Matthew 7:21-23, Jesus said that only those who do the will of the Father will enter the Kingdom of Heaven and that he will tell those who are workers of lawlessness to depart from him because he never knew them. In Hebrews 5:9, Jesus is the source of eternal salvation for those who obey him. In Romans 2:6-7, those who persist in doing good will be given eternal life. In Revelation 22:14, those who kept God's commandments will be given access to the Tree of Life. The Bible also frequently connects our faith in God with our obedience to God, such as in Revelation 14:12, where those who kept faith in Jesus are the same as those who kept God's commandments, yet you want to have faith in Jesus instead of keeping God's commandments, which is actually refusing to having faith in him.

 

[servant7777]

While we are justified by faith and do not earn it by works of the law, it would be a mistaken to conclude that our faith therefore abolishes our need to obey God's law because Paul concluded in Romans 3:31 that our faith does not abolish the law, but rather our faith upholds it, yet you seek to abolish it rather than uphold it.

You know for years you say the very same thing, never hear correction, never engage, you show no godliness in your ways.


Our faith upholds/establishes the law because of Christ dying for our sins in faith, and rising again to give the Spirit and love is in our heart, as ALL THE LAW IS FULFILLING IN LOVING OUR NEIGHOUR AS OURSELVES.

 

[fhansen]

Also the testimony is WHOSOEVER IS BORN OF GOD...


1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

Well, you and God alone know best how perfectly you love. And maybe an acquaintance or two