What is the Church's position on Creation/Evolution

[TheLostCoin]

So, having looked at his site (and regretting it). He seem like an allegedly Orthodox huckster, dangling a bit of theology, to draw the gullible in, to con them into buying into his paranoid positions on global politics, etc. In other words, something like a Pat Robertson, with a bit of incense to mask the scent of the "organic fertilizer"

The thing is though, he certainly does hit a certain niche of people that mainstream Orthodox advertising wouldn’t hit.

He has a pretty edgy sense of humor and definitely is blunt in his conservative political opinions. Many of us conservatives have to be pretty hidden about what we believe in politically, except when we post anonymously online, because the moment that we reveal something we believe in, we could get in trouble either by means of some nut job business owner or school administrator kicking you out, or friends severing any connection they had with you.

And Jay Dyer provides a community that many conservatives couldn’t otherwise have access too.

For what it’s worth, it’s the same methodology that makes Radical Socialists, Neo-Nazis, and Religious Extremists popular among certain groups of people - that people aren’t anymore afraid of being targeted by the “thought police” and can freely speak non-radical but controversial ideas (like gay-marriage being a sin) in a community that agrees with them.

Which is, by the way, why the dumba** left wingers are sawing off their legs by calling everything conservative “fascist,” “alt-right,” “racist,” or “sexist,” and banning anything conservative. You’re only encouraging those very things by waging war against things that aren’t this, and poking a baby bear with a stick which will wake up a very angry Mama Bear.

And I would much, much prefer Jay Dyer as a community rather than Neo-Nazis. He’s at least more down to Earth and promotes Orthodox Theology.

 

[TheLostCoin]

It’s refreshing to see you aren’t alone and you hear a human voice talking to a group of people with which you can agree with on some issues.

It’s very rare that I hear a human voice talking to a group of people saying that the idea of raising your baby as “genderless” is repugnant, with them agreeing.

 

[straykat]

This is a non-issue.

Whether living beings exist by direct creation, or God working through natural processes He Himself determined, it's still God doing it.

Remember that the Bible is neither a scientific text nor an history book as we understand those disciplines today.

Evolution is proposing a whole worldview, just like Christianity. It really does matter that we reject it. It's not merely science. It's a worldview of the survival of the fittest - of elitism.

And it's not just elitism of certain species.. but this notion starts even before that with the assumption that we evolve via mutations, when one "part" of an organism operates differently away from the whole organism. But nothing like this works in biology. All of our systems are interconnected. For example, the ear is not a world unto itself. Just because, say, the size of an ear "mutated", doesn't mean all of the interconnected systems (such as the brain or those managing sinuses or other fluids.) evolved along with it. Unless that happens, I don't see how we're going to get a radically different organism.

My point here is that this theory is trying to get us into believing in the elite nature of single things/individuals. It starts with the very evolution of our organs in isolation, then moves on to the elitism of species.. then further pushes the elitism of race and families. And look how the world has developed since Darwin: It's taken this notion to heart. Whether it's in the scale of wars or even the every day affairs of man, where so many of us take to heart the notion of "getting ahead in life", humiliating others and diminishing their worth, attracting the opposite sex in the most base ways, and casually crushing your fellow man in business or something. And at the very top, there's an even higher elite, laughing at all of us, killing our children, conducting population control, polluting our food, etc..

The idea of elitism is anathema to the Church, which is literally a holistic system.. a whole body as the Apostles would point..where all parts need to work well in tandem. And not just one elite part dictating the path for everyone (unless we count Christ, of course. I don't want to get too carried away with the analogy).