What, is Romney off limits now?

[ZaidaBoBaida]

I've also seen women with chilren collecting food stamps and maybe other benefits while their live-in boyfriends have full time jobs.

If the boyfriend is in the household they are supposed to consider his income as well, so it is probably that his income is so low that they still qualify for food stamps. The majority of people on food stamps do work at least part-time. If you get someone who makes $10 (which is pretty average around here) supporting a family of 3 - yeah, they would probably qualify for $100-200 a month in food stamps. There's families that have 5 or more kids that get hundreds in food stamps every month that one or both of the parents work. The problem is that they don't make enough to feed all those mouths.

 

[Almighty's humble servant]

Wow, ppl still blindly hyping trickledown economics as if it EVER worked.

Yeah we had growth during the Bush yrs.....but none of it was his doing.

99% of non partison economists agree that a presidents policies take 5-6 yrs before they take effect. That is with the GRAND EXCEPTION of emergency intervention. It usually takes 3-5 months.

So the growth we saw from 00-05 would be directly credited to Bill Clinton. And the Bush policies would be directly credited for our economy from 06-09 until Obamas emergency actions took hold and we began to recover, SLIGHTLY.

Reagan raised capital gains tax and considered it a CRIME for them to be taxed less than regular income.

Bush 1 raised income tax to fund his invasion of Iraq, and bail us out of the recession Reagans policies led us into.

Clinton continued Bush1 tax policies and we experienced the greatest period of economic growth in my lifetime. Real, sustainable growth.

In a nutshell, conservative politics is about HATE and BULLYING.
Hate the blacks, hispanics, etc. Bully the poor and the elderly, and pad the pockets of thier swiss account having, job outsourcing cohorts and campaign funders.

 

[Lovely Lane]

Great thread AHS,

DO YOU consider yourself, IN the Bucket for Obama?
DO YOU consider yourself entitled?
DO YOU consider yourself a VICTIM?
Do you swear allegiance to Obama b/c he'll make certain your benefits are not cut?

Good questions, I wonder if the Republicans said the same things when we voted Clinton in office, twice.

Oh well, I have been voting for the Democrat politician for many years now. Why, because they really support social safety net programs that all countries should do.
Thank goodness we do not live in the first century where the Romans could care less about the elderly, poor, those needing medical, etc. Shall we sit outside the church as did the Jews did at the sheep gate of the Temple begging for alms, food, clothes, shelter, a chance to dip in a pool of water stirred by an angel from time to time?
And all the long the clergy just pass by and say niceties like he will pray for you, which doesn't relieve the hunger pains for some reason.

Come on home back to the Buckeye State, you know you want to. I just returned a couple of years ago after being away for over thirty years. Enjoying it.

 

[Almighty's humble servant]

Great thread AHS,

DO YOU consider yourself, IN the Bucket for Obama?
DO YOU consider yourself entitled?
DO YOU consider yourself a VICTIM?
Do you swear allegiance to Obama b/c he'll make certain your benefits are not cut?

Good questions, I wonder if the Republicans said the same things when we voted Clinton in office, twice.

Oh well, I have been voting for the Democrat politician for many years now. Why, because they really support social safety net programs that all countries should do.
Thank goodness we do not live in the first century where the Romans could care less about the elderly, poor, those needing medical, etc. Shall we sit outside the church as did the Jews did at the sheep gate of the Temple begging for alms, food, clothes, shelter, a chance to dip in a pool of water stirred by an angel from time to time?
And all the long the clergy just pass by and say niceties like he will pray for you, which doesn't relieve the hunger pains for some reason.

Come on home back to the Buckeye State, you know you want to. I just returned a couple of years ago after being away for over thirty years. Enjoying it.

Thanks brother. Youngstown is looking real nice these days I hear. The Obama auto bailout saved some 12K jobs in that area and created a huge surplus. My brother in law just moved there and he's saying that the temp agencies are starting at $17/hr and the companies are paying $21/hr after 90 days.

 

[Almighty's humble servant]

If the boyfriend is in the household they are supposed to consider his income as well, so it is probably that his income is so low that they still qualify for food stamps. The majority of people on food stamps do work at least part-time. If you get someone who makes $10 (which is pretty average around here) supporting a family of 3 - yeah, they would probably qualify for $100-200 a month in food stamps. There's families that have 5 or more kids that get hundreds in food stamps every month that one or both of the parents work. The problem is that they don't make enough to feed all those mouths.

Pretty sad that these neocons are jealous of the guy making $7.25/hr and living with his g/f and her 4 kids and getting $700/mo in food stamps, but no money to kill the millions of roaches and rats that co occupy their residence owned by the millionaire fat cat who wants to cut their benefits while increasing the amount Sec 8 will pay him for his 3 BR trash heap.

 

[Psalm 91]

Excellent post brother. I think the percentage of laggards, or chronically unemployed, is about 6%.
Of course, when you add to that number, the % of stay at home moms it increases, but we all MOSTLY know that their's is a job for no laggard.

I personally know 4 or 5 white men in KY who will be voting against Obama simply b/c what they see on Fox news or what they hear from their on again, off again co workers. These guys don't hold jobs, and are themselves, chronically unemployed.(laggards) They hated Obama 4 yrs ago, and hate him today.
Then you got about 6% of the million/billionaires out there, mostly in showbiz, but with some exceptions like Warren Buffet, who vote L b/c they was society to progress. They want to bring about social change in the lower classes they typically came from. Mostly genuinely good hearted folks, although mostly disconnected as to faith or religion.

I think the electorate is far more complex that Mitt and his billionaire boys club imagine. The R is composed almost exclusively of middle class folks who are literally taxed up to their ears. I'm talking like 50%+ of their check is gone straight away after all the deductions. They don't realize that the tax codes are set up in such away that the million/billionaires pay a far lower percentage in taxes than they do. They don't realize that they are literally carrying the burden themselves. Yet they yoke themselves to their slavemasters at the top.
And if we start talking about the dole.....the average family of 6 recieving govt subsidies to survive get about 13K/yr in benefits.

The average millionaire gets about 300K/yr. Heck, Romney got 77K for his wife's horse.

Dissing Fox News again? At least they present both sides. Also, as was said by someone earlier, jealousy is unbecoming. Romney earned what he has made. "To whom much is given, much is required." I don't look at his life as being easy and I wouldn't have wanted to be in his shoes. The business world can be cruel, only the strong survive. You may think it's unfair for millionaires to pay less in taxes but can you put yourself in their place? If you had worked hard all of your life and become wealthy. Would you want to give half of it to the IRS? That is why there are deductions so people can keep more of their money. That is the American way. It is a fact that most of the charitable contributions are made by the wealthy. Sure, they can deduct them but they didn't have to give. I really don't like all the bad-mouthing I'm hearing about the wealthy these days. That is just wrong, it's covetous. God didn't make us all to be rich and we should look to Him to provide for us, not the government or the rich people. And I'll say it once again: I didn't hear any criticism of John Kerry for his wealth in 2004, or Al Gore in 2000 or JFK in 1960 although I was too young then. We are only hearing these things about Romney because Obama wants class warfare and he is the one behind all of this. Someone who wants us to hate each other should not be president and if it continues the rich may all move out of the country and take their money with them.

 

[Psalm 91]

If the boyfriend is in the household they are supposed to consider his income as well, so it is probably that his income is so low that they still qualify for food stamps. The majority of people on food stamps do work at least part-time. If you get someone who makes $10 (which is pretty average around here) supporting a family of 3 - yeah, they would probably qualify for $100-200 a month in food stamps. There's families that have 5 or more kids that get hundreds in food stamps every month that one or both of the parents work. The problem is that they don't make enough to feed all those mouths.

I think the state didn't know she had a live-in boyfriend who was working.

 

[Psalm 91]

Pretty sad that these neocons are jealous of the guy making $7.25/hr and living with his g/f and her 4 kids and getting $700/mo in food stamps, but no money to kill the millions of roaches and rats that co occupy their residence owned by the millionaire fat cat who wants to cut their benefits while increasing the amount Sec 8 will pay him for his 3 BR trash heap.

AHS, that millionaire fat cat sounds like Obama's friend and client, Tony Rezko. He's in jail now. He helped Obama get his mansion in Kenwood. He was a known slumlord and if Obama, the former community organizer, really cared so much about poor people, why would he befriend someone who abused those poor people on a regular basis? He doesn't care. He wanted to be a politician and he befriended anyone necessary to help him get where he wanted to go. He doesn't care about you or about me. He allowed children of illegals to have the same rights as children of citizens because he wanted the Hispanic vote. He had a change of heart about gay marriage because he wants the gay vote. He handed out food stamps because he wants the poor people's votes. Everything he does is for the advancement of Barack Obama.

 

[SearchingStudent]

Everything he does is for the advancement of Barack Obama.

And do you think that Mitt is any different? If you have enough $, you can own any politician you want including POTUS.

 

[Psalm 91]

And do you think that Mitt is any different? If you have enough $, you can own any politician you want including POTUS.

I think that just about any president would be different from Barack Obama. He is a true narcissist. I'm a conservative but I'd feel safer with another eight with Clinton, even Carter. And to say I'd prefer Carter is pretty bad. But I would, in spite of his anti-Semitism. I don't care about presidents being bought because that has gone on forever. My concern is his socialist ideology and policies and the economical downturn during his presidency. And a more serious concern I have is how people have been mesmerized by him and after four years of doing very little other than bribing senators to pass a HC bill that half the country didn't want, people are still mesmerized. It's incomprehensible and to be honest, kinda scary.

 

[Almighty's humble servant]

AHS, that millionaire fat cat sounds like Obama's friend and client, Tony Rezko. He's in jail now. He helped Obama get his mansion in Kenwood. He was a known slumlord and if Obama, the former community organizer, really cared so much about poor people, why would he befriend someone who abused those poor people on a regular basis? He doesn't care. He wanted to be a politician and he befriended anyone necessary to help him get where he wanted to go. He doesn't care about you or about me. He allowed children of illegals to have the same rights as children of citizens because he wanted the Hispanic vote. He had a change of heart about gay marriage because he wants the gay vote. He handed out food stamps because he wants the poor people's votes. Everything he does is for the advancement of Barack Obama.

Romney earned his money last yr investing in a Chinese media bootlegging .com. He earned his money in a Chinese slave labor manufacturing outfit that makes bootleg goods to be sold on the Western black markets.

As for the Obama/Rezko connection, I know all about it. I do watch Fox news too. MOF, I tend to watch it likely moreso than you would believe.

Oreilly is my favorite pundit. Shepherd Smith is pretty fair as well, although far more scripted. And I like that Megan Kelly and Greta. I do however have a particular distaste for Hannity, and while I used to be a huge Mike Huckabee fan, I have discovered either he is a hypocrite or a puppet.

Notice I tend to like the folks not pushing a candidate down my throat. They bring up Obama's failures for certain, they're paid to do such, but the tone of their voice is such that they are opining, and giving genuine trustworthy commentary on what they are reporting.

As for Rezko/Obama.......did you ever stop to think about the whole situation? Obama was trying to get Rezko to go beyond his "legal" responsibilities in maintaining his properties. He approached him in a manner that our grandma's used to teach us. "You catch more bees with honey".
Now, do I think Obama handled Rezko properly. NO. Rezko is scum of the earth. And many Chicago politicians are as well. Rahm Emanuel disgusts me. I was thrilled to see Obama send him packing.(There's a HUGE story behind Emanuels departure).
The point is that when Obama was working in Chicago, pre-politics, he was trying to get these slum lords and school councilthugs to clean up their acts. Of course, taking a hardline with them would have been a better approach from a political aspect, ie vote gathering, but it wouldnt effect change, as these slumlords continue to maintain their properties to the bare minimum within the law, and even less that is, until forced to maintain them within the law.

If the conservatives want change, they should vote for Gary Johnson. If he were to get 10+% of the vote, he could make a strong run along with Jesse Ventura or Ron Paul in 2016, and then America could turn around.

But, we both know that aint happening. At least with Obama, a civil war might be avoided, and less elderly and children with starve to death.

 

[Psalm 91]

Romney earned his money last yr investing in a Chinese media bootlegging .com. He earned his money in a Chinese slave labor manufacturing outfit that makes bootleg goods to be sold on the Western black markets.

As for the Obama/Rezko connection, I know all about it. I do watch Fox news too. MOF, I tend to watch it likely moreso than you would believe.

Oreilly is my favorite pundit. Shepherd Smith is pretty fair as well, although far more scripted. And I like that Megan Kelly and Greta. I do however have a particular distaste for Hannity, and while I used to be a huge Mike Huckabee fan, I have discovered either he is a hypocrite or a puppet.

Notice I tend to like the folks not pushing a candidate down my throat. They bring up Obama's failures for certain, they're paid to do such, but the tone of their voice is such that they are opining, and giving genuine trustworthy commentary on what they are reporting.

As for Rezko/Obama.......did you ever stop to think about the whole situation? Obama was trying to get Rezko to go beyond his "legal" responsibilities in maintaining his properties. He approached him in a manner that our grandma's used to teach us. "You catch more bees with honey".
Now, do I think Obama handled Rezko properly. NO. Rezko is scum of the earth. And many Chicago politicians are as well. Rahm Emanuel disgusts me. I was thrilled to see Obama send him packing.(There's a HUGE story behind Emanuels departure).
The point is that when Obama was working in Chicago, pre-politics, he was trying to get these slum lords and school councilthugs to clean up their acts. Of course, taking a hardline with them would have been a better approach from a political aspect, ie vote gathering, but it wouldnt effect change, as these slumlords continue to maintain their properties to the bare minimum within the law, and even less that is, until forced to maintain them within the law.

If the conservatives want change, they should vote for Gary Johnson. If he were to get 10+% of the vote, he could make a strong run along with Jesse Ventura or Ron Paul in 2016, and then America could turn around.

But, we both know that aint happening. At least with Obama, a civil war might be avoided, and less elderly and children with starve to death.

I have a Ron Paulite living upstairs from me so I know all about "turning the country around." He wouldn't survive six months before the banksters would, well whatever. He'd could never win to begin with because the powers that be have control over the elections. I know because I live where votes are thrown out like the trash.

As for Rahm Emanuel, I'm very familiar with him too as he is "da mare". I would be interested in seeing some facts about his departure from the WH. I personally believe that he couldn't stand Michelle and she couldn't stand him and since she wears the pants, he was out the door. I also believe that he knew that Obama is slow and lazy and weak and didn't have any more patience with him. After all, he worked for a REAL politician, Bubba. Obama is an amateur.

So you think that Obama was just playing "nice" with Rezko? I don't think so. He represented Rezko as a lawyer. He pressured banks to give loans to poor people who couldn't afford mortgages. He represented ACORN. If those are the kind of people he had for clients, then I see him as a sleazy, lying lawyer who was propped into politics by the likes of Zbiegnew Breszinski and George Soros. He won his state positions by eliminating his opponents. He has never had a strong opponent in any election.

As for sweat shops, many celebrities have their clothing made in sweatshops. But that's okay because celebrities are liberals.

I do not begrudge anyone anything in life. I would rather celebrate a person's success. How many poor people have ever been elected president?

Last but not least, Jesse Ventura is an average person with an average intellect. He failed as the governor of Minnesota. He could not run this country any more than I could.

 

[ZaidaBoBaida]

I think the state didn't know she had a live-in boyfriend who was working.

You think or you know? You shouldn't speak unless you know.

 

[Psalm 91]

You think or you know? You shouldn't speak unless you know.

I know. Would you like her address and phone number too? I brought her up as an example, not to get anyone in trouble.

 

[ZaidaBoBaida]

One of my friends down at DSS said that if he isn't the father of the children they actually wouldn't consider his income. He isn't under any legal obligation to support them if they're not his.

 

[Almighty's humble servant]

I have a Ron Paulite living upstairs from me so I know all about "turning the country around." He wouldn't survive six months before the banksters would, well whatever. He'd could never win to begin with because the powers that be have control over the elections. I know because I live where votes are thrown out like the trash.


So you think that Obama was just playing "nice" with Rezko? I don't think so. He represented Rezko as a lawyer. He pressured banks to give loans to poor people who couldn't afford mortgages. He represented ACORN. If those are the kind of people he had for clients, then I see him as a sleazy, lying lawyer who was propped into politics by the likes of Zbiegnew Breszinski and George Soros. He won his state positions by eliminating his opponents. He has never had a strong opponent in any election.

As for sweat shops, many celebrities have their clothing made in sweatshops. But that's okay because celebrities are liberals.

I do not begrudge anyone anything in life. I would rather celebrate a person's success. How many poor people have ever been elected president?

Last but not least, Jesse Ventura is an average person with an average intellect. He failed as the governor of Minnesota. He could not run this country any more than I could.

Meethinks you know about what's going on then your'e letting on. Indeed this corporate/bank controlled soceity is pulling their puppets strings, and if you know that, then you KNOW, both parties lead to the SAME end goal.....a New Roman Empire with it's capital, the USA.

Almost ALL politicians have dirty money in their coffers. Some just have a heck of a lot more blood on thier hands and have far more sinister end goals, ie Romney.


Anyone who doesnt pay a fare wage to their employees knowing they won't find work elsewhere or are trapped due to legal reasons is scum of the earth. Anyone who profits off these is as well.


WHHHHHHHAAAAATTTTTT........Jesse Ventura may be an agnostic, not understanding God, nor having the the gift of eternal life through the Son, but the man is a truth seeker and a truth finder. And he has more courage than the combined leadership of the US over the past 49 yrs.

 

[Psalm 91]

Great thread AHS,

DO YOU consider yourself, IN the Bucket for Obama?
DO YOU consider yourself entitled?
DO YOU consider yourself a VICTIM?
Do you swear allegiance to Obama b/c he'll make certain your benefits are not cut?

Good questions, I wonder if the Republicans said the same things when we voted Clinton in office, twice.

Oh well, I have been voting for the Democrat politician for many years now. Why, because they really support social safety net programs that all countries should do.
Thank goodness we do not live in the first century where the Romans could care less about the elderly, poor, those needing medical, etc. Shall we sit outside the church as did the Jews did at the sheep gate of the Temple begging for alms, food, clothes, shelter, a chance to dip in a pool of water stirred by an angel from time to time?
And all the long the clergy just pass by and say niceties like he will pray for you, which doesn't relieve the hunger pains for some reason.

Come on home back to the Buckeye State, you know you want to. I just returned a couple of years ago after being away for over thirty years. Enjoying it.

I'm just curious, how do you expect the government to continue to provide these safety nets when only 50% of the country pays taxes and even if the rich were taxed more, it would be a drop in the bucket. Doesn't it worry you that they are borrowing money and printing money in order to pay these entitlements every month. I'm on disability and I'm thankful each and every month because I think there will come a day when the payments will stop. I think the debt is what is behind the increased resistance to unions. Hmm. That's a dilemma. The Democrats have to support the unions for campaign contributions but a Democrat president knows that paying federal pensions and other benefits in addition to entitlements is draining the swamp. Well, it's all going to come crashing down one day because no one wants to try to do anything painful right now to stop the crash. Besides the abortion issue, that is why I vote Republican. Say what you will about Bush, he tried to change SS and there was a major backlash. People keep voting in Democrats because they think the money is endless. I've only been here a couple of days and I've lost count of the number of times I've read that we are the richest country. Well, if so, why are we borrowing so much and printing so much?

 

[Jeffwhosoever]

Tax and spend, tax and spend. Wrong on almost every issue too.

 

[Psalm 91]

Meethinks you know about what's going on then your'e letting on. Indeed this corporate/bank controlled soceity is pulling their puppets strings, and if you know that, then you KNOW, both parties lead to the SAME end goal.....a New Roman Empire with it's capital, the USA.

Almost ALL politicians have dirty money in their coffers. Some just have a heck of a lot more blood on thier hands and have far more sinister end goals, ie Romney.


Anyone who doesnt pay a fare wage to their employees knowing they won't find work elsewhere or are trapped due to legal reasons is scum of the earth. Anyone who profits off these is as well.


WHHHHHHHAAAAATTTTTT........Jesse Ventura may be an agnostic, not understanding God, nor having the the gift of eternal life through the Son, but the man is a truth seeker and a truth finder. And he has more courage than the combined leadership of the US over the past 49 yrs.

I'm into Eschatology so I have been watching for the world government for a long time. I knew it was a done deal when the NAU was formed. I've been accused of being a conspiracy theorist but I'm not as much into the conspiracies as I am into watching world events coming to pass exactly the way they are prophesied in Scripture.

And why do you think that Romney has blood on his hands and sinister goals? I think he is a better human being than Obama. So he'll probably lose. I don't think much good will come to this country in the future because we have left God out of our lives. After 9/11 we didn't repent so what is to come will most likely be worse. I pray that God will give us more time and let Romney win the presidency. At least if, God forbid, one of our ambassadors was killed again, he'd be busy dealing with that situation instead of meeting with Beyonce, Letterman, the Pimp with a Limp, Leno and the View. And I'm sure he'd meet with foreign leaders when asked instead of meeting with Beyonce, Letterman, etc.

You just named why Jesse Ventura could never be president. He is of average intelligence and I am too. There is nothing wrong with it but presidents are usually highly educated and have had a career in politics. His stint as Minnesota governor was not successful and he got out because he knew he wouldn't be re-elected. I liked his show and admire him for trying to find out the evil that goes on while Americans are busy with their IPads and football games and sitcoms. But I don't think he is qualified to be president. And even if he somehow made it to the oval office, he might just come upon some horrible accident. He's better off continuing his truth-seeking.

Also, the Holy Roman Empire has already been formed. Have you seen the EU flag? I think you mentioned Irvin Baxter, whom I watch too, and he has a program about it. It will be coming up soon. However, I've never heard that America will be the capital. America is not mentioned in prophecy except possibly in Rev. when the Jews flee to Petra there is mention of the Eagle helping them. Commentaries say that the Eagle is God but I've never heard Him described as an Eagle. Anyway, just wondered about the capital of the EU being America. How can that be?

 

[SearchingStudent]

The republican mantra of tax cuts isn't going to put more $$ in the coffers either. Its real simple...every housewife knows it. Either more comes in, less goes out or some combination of both.

I don't buy the whole 47% quote, because if you think about it, the people who may not be paying income taxes are still paying other taxes. FICA is not optional nor refundable, sales taxes, property taxes, gas taxes...all get paid whether or not you pay income taxes. Therefore the statement was misleading.

Bottom line...taxes have to go UP. Quit giving "tax breaks" to the corporations that just offshore jobs. The jobs that are being "created" these days are mostly low paying service jobs. The days of the good paying manufacturing jobs are just about over.