What is Christ's rest?

[Leaf473]

like I nentionned, you cannot keep all of them , I am talking here of the laws of Moses for that time not the ten commandments.

As I see it, the issue is that the original poster had brought up the idea that The Ten Commandments teach us how to keep the first and second greatest commandment. Since they teach us that, they are still in effect

But we see that other laws are also in effect

If those other laws are not kept, then it appears to me an inconsistent approach to the scriptures

The ten Commandments are the covenant! this is not from me, if appears in scripture 4 or 5 times where GOD said the ten commandments are the covenant.

I offered to you to discuss these on another thread since what we are discussing is off topic,

I believe it is on-topic, since the original post contains this

Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.

And this

Sin is:
1 John 3:4 Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.

...the offer is still valid.

Sure, I'll look for that link

Signing off until tomorrow, have a good evening Leaf.

Blessings.

Thanks, blessings to you too

 

[DamianWarS]

God does not just pass through the pieces—He descends upon the mountain

There it is. You have judged these acts as better because of how you've judged their surrounding. Why is a mountain better than passing through animal cut into two? Why is Moses's climb better than Abraham's waiting? Why is God's finger better than his torch?

But you're right they are not in competition they are in fact the same values and unfolding plan, revealed to Abraham in one way, another another to Moses. The mechanism is not what makes it better, neither is better, as they are both of God and both should have the same honor.

This comes to the elephant in the room. Why are the 10 better. I get you probably reject that language yet in whatever nuances you use, the 10 some how rise to the top. So why is that? It's not his finger, it's not the mountain, or his voice, it's not the masses. These things are all anecdotal and imprecise, not to mention creates a bias. How can we critically look at the 10 so as not to introduce a bias?

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Is God being biased by separating the Ten Commandments from all the other laws and once He wrote His personal Testimony that only included the Ten Commandments He added no more. He than only put the Ten Commandments under His mercy seat and said this right in the Ten Commandments Exo 20:6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments. He placed the Ten Commandments in the Most Holy of His Temple under His mercy seat, which are also revealed in heaven and shown at the last Trumpet Rev 11:18-19 before He returns in all His Glory to give rewards to everyone according to their works Rev 22:12 some to eternal life, some not Rev 22:14-15

Deut 4:13 So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone.
Deut 5:22 22 “These words the Lord spoke to all your assembly, in the mountain from the midst of the fire, the cloud, and the thick darkness, with a loud voice; and He added no more. And He wrote them on two tablets of stone and gave them to me.
Exo 31:18 And when He had made an end of speaking with him on Mount Sinai, He gave Moses two tablets of the Testimony, tablets of stone, written with the finger of God.

I can't help but wonder is God being biased or are we when we elevate what man (creation) wrote on paper that was placed outside the ark of the covenant set there as a witness against over God (the Creator) of the Universe own personal Testimony both supernaturally written and spoken by God.

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

This comes to the elephant in the room. Why are the 10 better. I get you probably reject that language yet in whatever nuances you use, the 10 some how rise to the top. So why is that? It's not his finger, it's not the mountain, or his voice, it's not the masses. These things are all anecdotal and imprecise, not to mention creates a bias. How can we critically look at the 10 so as not to introduce a bias?

In essence, the Abrahamic Covenant is the promise of God's faithfulness and blessing, while the Sinai Covenant, with the Ten Commandments, reveals the character of the God who makes these promises and the way of life that aligns with His holy nature. The Law, in this context, serves not as a means to earn God's favor (already established through the Abrahamic Covenant by grace through faith) but as a guide for how those in covenant relationship with God are to live. It demonstrates the seriousness of sin and points towards the ultimate fulfillment of God's promises in the person and work of Jesus Christ, who embodies both the perfect fulfillment of the Law and the ultimate expression of God's gracious covenant love, a truth consistently affirmed in the New Testament.

Here are the Words of Christ that are not anecdotal but precise;
If ye love me, keep my commandments. (john 14:15)
if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.(mat 19:17)
Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near. (Mat 3:2, Mat 4:17)

In more detail;
(Matthew 19:16-22)
16 Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good[a] Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?”
17 So He said to him, [b]“Why do you call Me good? [c]No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”
18 He said to Him, “Which ones?”
Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’ 19 ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”
20 The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept [d]from my youth. What do I still lack?”
21 Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.”
22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.

Clearly Here Jesus was enumerating the commandments. To enter into life, one must Keep the commandments!

The problem, and why they always rise to the top in conversations on this forum is that many say the Commandments are abolished.

 

[Leaf473]

Separation isn't bias

Saying this commandment is greater because I like it is a bias

The first and second greatest Commandments are said to be the greatest by the Scriptures. I don't know of any passages where other Commandments are ranked

Honor your covenant,
for haunts of violence fill the dark places of the earth Psalm 74

 

[Leaf473]

In essence, the Abrahamic Covenant is the promise of God's faithfulness and blessing, while the Sinai Covenant, with the Ten Commandments, reveals the character of the God who makes these promises and the way of life that aligns with His holy nature. The Law, in this context, serves not as a means to earn God's favor (already established through the Abrahamic Covenant by grace through faith) but as a guide for how those in covenant relationship with God are to live. It demonstrates the seriousness of sin and points towards the ultimate fulfillment of God's promises in the person and work of Jesus Christ, who embodies both the perfect fulfillment of the Law and the ultimate expression of God's gracious covenant love, a truth consistently affirmed in the New Testament.

Here are the Words of Christ that are not anecdotal but precise;
If ye love me, keep my commandments. (john 14:15)
if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.(mat 19:17)
Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near. (Mat 3:2, Mat 4:17)

In more detail;
(Matthew 19:16-22)
16 Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good[a] Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?”
17 So He said to him, [b]“Why do you call Me good? [c]No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”
18 He said to Him, “Which ones?”
Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’ 19 ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”
20 The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept [d]from my youth. What do I still lack?”
21 Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.”
22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.

Clearly Here Jesus was enumerating the commandments. To enter into life, one must Keep the commandments!

The problem, and why they always rise to the top in conversations on this forum is that many say the Commandments are abolished.

My impression was that they were frequently talked about because the inside of the ark is assumed to be more important than the side of the ark

But when something is placed inside of the ark, it's hidden from the people

Show me your ways, O Lord Teach me your paths Psalm 25

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

My impression was that they were frequently talked about because the inside of the ark is assumed to be more important than the side of the ark

Is not the Fact that GOD appeared to Moses Just Above the ark containing the ten commandments not enough to illustrate the importance of the Ark of the Covenant and it's contents?

But when something is placed inside of the ark, it's hidden from the people

Hidden? when God was above the ARK people from miles around knew it. Scripture describes several powerful and awe-inspiring apparitions associated with the Ark of the Covenant and within their camp. Here are a few key instances, illustrated with NKJV verses:
The Glory Cloud (Shekinah Glory) Above the Tabernacle and Ark: This is perhaps the most consistent depiction of God's visible presence. It often appeared as a cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night, signifying His guidance and dwelling among His people;
Exodus 40:34-35: "Then the cloud covered the tabernacle of meeting, and the glory of the Lord filled the tabernacle. And Moses was not able to enter the tabernacle of meeting, because the cloud rested above it, and the glory of the Lord filled the tabernacle." This passage describes the initial manifestation of the glory cloud upon the completed tabernacle.
Numbers 9:15-16: "Now on the day that the tabernacle was raised up, the cloud covered the tabernacle, namely, the tent of the Testimony; and at evening it was like the appearance of fire until morning. So it was always: the cloud covered it by day and the appearance of fire by night." This highlights the continuous nature of this visible presence.
Leviticus 16:2: "And the Lord said to Moses: 'Tell Aaron your brother not to come at just any time into the Holy Place inside the veil, before the mercy seat which is on the ark, lest he die; for I will appear in the cloud above the mercy seat.'"This verse specifically links God's appearing "in the cloud" to the mercy seat (the covering) of the Ark within the Holy of Holies.

At times, God's presence above the Ark was accompanied by a divine voice, indicating direct communication.
Numbers 7:89: "Now when Moses went into the tabernacle of meeting to speak with Him, he heard the voice speaking to him from above the mercy seat that was on the ark of the Testimony, from between the two cherubim; thus He spoke to him." This verse clearly states that God's voice emanated from the space between the cherubim that were positioned on top of the Ark's mercy seat.

God's presence wasn't confined solely to the Tabernacle. He also manifested His power and presence directly within the Israelite camp.
Exodus 19:16-18 (at Mount Sinai): "Then it came to pass on the third day, in the morning, that there were thunderings and lightnings, and a thick cloud on the mountain; and the sound of the trumpet was very loud, so that all the people who were in the camp trembled. And Moses brought the people out of the camp to meet with God, and they stood at the foot of the mountain. Now Mount Sinai was completely in smoke, because the Lord descended upon it in fire. Its smoke ascended like the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mountain quaked greatly." While this event occurred at Mount Sinai, before the full establishment of the Tabernacle, it powerfully illustrates the awe-inspiring nature of God's direct appearance to the entire assembly of Israel, and the great Importance GOD places on His covenant for His people and all who wish to follow Him. The imagery of fire, cloud, thunder, and earthquake signifies His powerful presence.*

These scriptural accounts reveal that God's appearances to the Israelites were often characterized by visible phenomena like the glory cloud and fire, and sometimes accompanied by direct verbal communication from above the Ark. These manifestations served as tangible reminders of His covenant relationship with them and His active presence in their midst. All the people in the camp saw these manifestations, they all knew what the Ark Contained, It's Glory is so great that we are still talking about it thousands of years later! This Glory shall never pass away.

Now look;
*"Then the temple of God in heaven was opened, and the ark of His covenant appeared in His temple. And there were flashes of lightning, and rumblings, and peals of thunder, and an earthquake, and a great hailstorm." (Revelations 11:19)

Do you see now the importance of the Ark of the Covenant and what it contained, The ten commandments?

Show me your ways, O Lord Teach me your paths Psalm 25

Blessings.

 

[Leaf473]

Is not the Fact that GOD appeared to Moses Just Above the ark containing the ten commandments not enough to illustrate the importance of the Ark of the Covenant and it's contents?

Is above the ark more important than the tent of meeting? Is there a scripture that states that it is?

The Lord called to Moses, and spoke to him from the Tent of Meeting, saying, 2 “Speak to the children of Israel Leviticus 1

Hidden?

Yes, in the sense that I can think of a couple places where someone like Joshua reads to the children of Israel from the book of the law. I assume that's the one on the side of the ark

But I can't think of any passages where the cover of the ark is taken off and the tablets are read from. Maybe there is one? Can you think of such a passage?

when God was above the ARK people from miles around knew it. Scripture describes several powerful and awe-inspiring apparitions associated with the Ark of the Covenant and within their camp. Here are a few key instances, illustrated with NKJV verses:
The Glory Cloud (Shekinah Glory) Above the Tabernacle and Ark: This is perhaps the most consistent depiction of God's visible presence. It often appeared as a cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night, signifying His guidance and dwelling among His people;
Exodus 40:34-35: "Then the cloud covered the tabernacle of meeting, and the glory of the Lord filled the tabernacle. And Moses was not able to enter the tabernacle of meeting, because the cloud rested above it, and the glory of the Lord filled the tabernacle." This passage describes the initial manifestation of the glory cloud upon the completed tabernacle.
Numbers 9:15-16: "Now on the day that the tabernacle was raised up, the cloud covered the tabernacle, namely, the tent of the Testimony; and at evening it was like the appearance of fire until morning. So it was always: the cloud covered it by day and the appearance of fire by night." This highlights the continuous nature of this visible presence.
Leviticus 16:2: "And the Lord said to Moses: 'Tell Aaron your brother not to come at just any time into the Holy Place inside the veil, before the mercy seat which is on the ark, lest he die; for I will appear in the cloud above the mercy seat.'"This verse specifically links God's appearing "in the cloud" to the mercy seat (the covering) of the Ark within the Holy of Holies.

At times, God's presence above the Ark was accompanied by a divine voice, indicating direct communication.
Numbers 7:89: "Now when Moses went into the tabernacle of meeting to speak with Him, he heard the voice speaking to him from above the mercy seat that was on the ark of the Testimony, from between the two cherubim; thus He spoke to him." This verse clearly states that God's voice emanated from the space between the cherubim that were positioned on top of the Ark's mercy seat.

God's presence wasn't confined solely to the Tabernacle. He also manifested His power and presence directly within the Israelite camp.
Exodus 19:16-18 (at Mount Sinai): "Then it came to pass on the third day, in the morning, that there were thunderings and lightnings, and a thick cloud on the mountain; and the sound of the trumpet was very loud, so that all the people who were in the camp trembled. And Moses brought the people out of the camp to meet with God, and they stood at the foot of the mountain. Now Mount Sinai was completely in smoke, because the Lord descended upon it in fire. Its smoke ascended like the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mountain quaked greatly." While this event occurred at Mount Sinai, before the full establishment of the Tabernacle, it powerfully illustrates the awe-inspiring nature of God's direct appearance to the entire assembly of Israel, and the great Importance GOD places on His covenant for His people and all who wish to follow Him. The imagery of fire, cloud, thunder, and earthquake signifies His powerful presence.*

These scriptural accounts reveal that God's appearances to the Israelites were often characterized by visible phenomena like the glory cloud and fire, and sometimes accompanied by direct verbal communication from above the Ark. These manifestations served as tangible reminders of His covenant relationship with them and His active presence in their midst. All the people in the camp saw these manifestations, they all knew what the Ark Contained, It's Glory is so great that we are still talking about it thousands of years later! This Glory shall never pass away.

Now look;
*"Then the temple of God in heaven was opened, and the ark of His covenant appeared in His temple. And there were flashes of lightning, and rumblings, and peals of thunder, and an earthquake, and a great hailstorm." (Revelations 11:19)

Do you see now the importance of the Ark of the Covenant and what it contained, The ten commandments?

Blessings.

 

[Leaf473]

Is not the Fact that GOD appeared to Moses Just Above the ark containing the ten commandments not enough to illustrate the importance of the Ark of the Covenant and it's contents?


Hidden? when God was above the ARK people from miles around knew it. Scripture describes several powerful and awe-inspiring apparitions associated with the Ark of the Covenant and within their camp. Here are a few key instances, illustrated with NKJV verses:
The Glory Cloud (Shekinah Glory) Above the Tabernacle and Ark: This is perhaps the most consistent depiction of God's visible presence. It often appeared as a cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night, signifying His guidance and dwelling among His people;
Exodus 40:34-35: "Then the cloud covered the tabernacle of meeting, and the glory of the Lord filled the tabernacle. And Moses was not able to enter the tabernacle of meeting, because the cloud rested above it, and the glory of the Lord filled the tabernacle." This passage describes the initial manifestation of the glory cloud upon the completed tabernacle.
Numbers 9:15-16: "Now on the day that the tabernacle was raised up, the cloud covered the tabernacle, namely, the tent of the Testimony; and at evening it was like the appearance of fire until morning. So it was always: the cloud covered it by day and the appearance of fire by night." This highlights the continuous nature of this visible presence.
Leviticus 16:2: "And the Lord said to Moses: 'Tell Aaron your brother not to come at just any time into the Holy Place inside the veil, before the mercy seat which is on the ark, lest he die; for I will appear in the cloud above the mercy seat.'"This verse specifically links God's appearing "in the cloud" to the mercy seat (the covering) of the Ark within the Holy of Holies.

At times, God's presence above the Ark was accompanied by a divine voice, indicating direct communication.
Numbers 7:89: "Now when Moses went into the tabernacle of meeting to speak with Him, he heard the voice speaking to him from above the mercy seat that was on the ark of the Testimony, from between the two cherubim; thus He spoke to him." This verse clearly states that God's voice emanated from the space between the cherubim that were positioned on top of the Ark's mercy seat.

God's presence wasn't confined solely to the Tabernacle. He also manifested His power and presence directly within the Israelite camp.
Exodus 19:16-18 (at Mount Sinai): "Then it came to pass on the third day, in the morning, that there were thunderings and lightnings, and a thick cloud on the mountain; and the sound of the trumpet was very loud, so that all the people who were in the camp trembled. And Moses brought the people out of the camp to meet with God, and they stood at the foot of the mountain. Now Mount Sinai was completely in smoke, because the Lord descended upon it in fire. Its smoke ascended like the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mountain quaked greatly." While this event occurred at Mount Sinai, before the full establishment of the Tabernacle, it powerfully illustrates the awe-inspiring nature of God's direct appearance to the entire assembly of Israel, and the great Importance GOD places on His covenant for His people and all who wish to follow Him. The imagery of fire, cloud, thunder, and earthquake signifies His powerful presence.*

These scriptural accounts reveal that God's appearances to the Israelites were often characterized by visible phenomena like the glory cloud and fire, and sometimes accompanied by direct verbal communication from above the Ark. These manifestations served as tangible reminders of His covenant relationship with them and His active presence in their midst. All the people in the camp saw these manifestations, they all knew what the Ark Contained, It's Glory is so great that we are still talking about it thousands of years later! This Glory shall never pass away.

Now look;
*"Then the temple of God in heaven was opened, and the ark of His covenant appeared in His temple. And there were flashes of lightning, and rumblings, and peals of thunder, and an earthquake, and a great hailstorm." (Revelations 11:19)

Do you see now the importance of the Ark of the Covenant and what it contained, The ten commandments?

Blessings.

Is the ark described in Revelation definitely literal? Or is it a metaphor?

Assuming it's literal, does it have the entire book of the law on the side of it? Does that entire book also contain the Ten commandments? Or are the 10 only on the inside?

 

[SabbathBlessings]

God's law is now written in our hearts and minds. Heb 8:10 Not written on stony hearts, but on hearts of the flesh

Eze 11:19 Then I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within them, and take the stony heart out of their flesh, and give them a heart of flesh,

Not everyone has a heart of flesh to accept the law of God written in the heart, obeying through love and faith. Exo 20:6 John 14:15 1 John 5:3 Rev 14:12

If we are not subject to the law of God

Rom 8:7 Because the [c]carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. 8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

I would consider more time in prayer asking God to change our heart.

 

[Leaf473]

Amen to praying

One thing I ask from the Lord this is what I seek to dwell in the house of the Lord all the days of my life to gaze on the beauty of the Lord and to seek him in his temple Psalm 27

 

[Leaf473]

I'd assume that people who are described as "in the flesh" or having a "stony heart" wouldn't really be Christians. I mean, they might put that on a form, but they would be more described like this

this people draws near with their mouth and honors me with their lips, but they have removed their heart far from me Isaiah 29

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Yes, we see Jesus quoting from Isaiah as he prophesized saying when we lay aside the commandment of God in lieu of our own laws/ traditions Jesus said ones heart is far from Him i.e. a stony heart vs Eze 11:19

Mat 15:3 He answered and said to them, “Why do you also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition? 4 For God commanded, saying, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; (we can see the rest of what God commanded from this unit in Exo 20:1-17)

and, ‘He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.’ 5 But you say, ‘Whoever says to his father or mother, “Whatever profit you might have received from me is a gift to God”— 6 then he need not honor his father [a]or mother.’ Thus you have made the [b]commandment of God of no effect by your tradition. 7 Hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying:

8 ‘These people [c]draw near to Me with their mouth,
And honor Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
9 And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’

 

[Leaf473]

Right! We definitely want to follow God's instructions. But God doesn't give the same instructions to every person throughout history

Jeremiah 3:16 It will come to pass, when you are multiplied and increased in the land in those days,” says the Lord, “they will no longer say, ‘the ark of the Lords covenant!’ It will not come to mind. They won’t remember it. They won’t miss it, nor will another be made

 

[SabbathBlessings]

So you disagree with your own statement on post 112.

I'd assume that people who are described as "in the flesh" or having a "stony heart" wouldn't really be Christians. I mean, they might put that on a form, but they would be more described like this

this people draws near with their mouth and honors me with their lips, but they have removed their heart far from me Isaiah 29

It helps to understand what we are posting like in post 112 and 114. The Bible is meant to be prayerfully studied, not used to debate what the Bible is teaching.

 

[Leaf473]

So you disagree with your own statement on post 112.


It helps to understand what we are posting like in post 112 and 114. The Bible is meant to be prayerfully studied, not used to debate what the Bible is teaching.

I see that you quoted my post, but removed my name Are you inviting me to talk to you about the law?

 

[SabbathBlessings]

I see that you quoted my post, but removed my name Are you inviting me to talk to you about the law?

No, we have been down that road too many times, so I am going to take the advice Jesus gave in Mat 15,. I had hope from post 112 but I see once you realized what it connected to, was disregarded as meant for other people by your follow up post. So back to agree to disagree and everything will sort itself out soon enough, bust I wish you well.

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

Is above the ark more important than the tent of meeting? Is there a scripture that states that it is?

A tent is Just a tent this one adorned by master artisans. They learned their skills directly from GOD. The ARK of the Covenant housing the 2 tables of stone is most important, they contain a set of ten instructions that if you follow from your heart like Jesus taught us, will give you eternal life, Most important Indeed!

The Lord called to Moses, and spoke to him from the Tent of Meeting, saying, 2 “Speak to the children of Israel Leviticus 1


Yes, in the sense that I can think of a couple places where someone like Joshua reads to the children of Israel from the book of the law. I assume that's the one on the side of the ark,

there was and probably copies as well at some time.

But I can't think of any passages where the cover of the ark is taken off and the tablets are read from. Maybe there is one? Can you think of such a passage?

from memory all I remember is they added a manna jar, Aaron staff in it as well so it was opened at one time.

Remember the ark was Most Holy and very few could approach it.

 

[Leaf473]

No, we have been down that road too many times, so I am going to take the advice Jesus gave in Mat 15,. I had hope from post 112

but I see once you realized what it connected to, was disregarded as meant for other people by your follow up p youost.

I understand the various places where the quote from Isaiah occurred when I wrote both of those posts

So back to agree to disagree and everything will sort itself out soon enough, bust I wish you well.

Peace be with you, my sister

 

[Leaf473]

A tent is Just a tent this one adorned by master artisans. They learned their skills directly from GOD. The ARK of the Covenant housing the 2 tables of stone is most important, they contain a set of ten instructions that if you follow from your heart like Jesus taught us, will give you eternal life, Most important Indeed!

Again, a scripture that says inside the ark is more important than the side of the ark

there was and probably copies as well at some time.

from memory all I remember is they added a manna jar, Aaron staff in it as well so it was opened at one time.

Remember the ark was Most Holy and very few could approach it.

Exactly! Hence, something inside the ark wasn't generally made to be accessed

Similar with God's finger. Jesus wrote In The Sand with his finger according to John 8. Yet we don't even know what he wrote

For the mouth of the Lord has spoken it Isaiah 50