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What is a Christian?

Discussion in 'Friendship Court' started by Martin, Jan 17, 2002.

  1. The Soulgirl

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    What face? Do you mean my Avatar?? that is not sad.. that is a very happy, slightly drunk face on my Birthday last year!! Im never angry - if fact, most people ask how Im always so happy!!
     
  2. solo66 man

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    Have you thought of using a different photograph of yourself? Something calmer? I am sorry, but you look angry. Kind of like you are yelling really loudly at someone. You look very pretty otherwise.
     
  3. The Soulgirl

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    Nope... that was a kind of a "yeah... its New Year".... :D
     
  4. Kristen

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    In Bears defence we are not perfect as you all know. I for one get very angry at people coming onto christian forums and treating us like we are idiots, and we have to give proof why we believe and it's a neverending battle with most non-believers.

    That's why I for one I am good at witnessing with atheists or satanists or whatever. They throw whatever you say in anger right back atcha. I may say a few words and a prayer but that's it. I've learned. It just makes me mad that's all that I would have to defend my faith to anybody!!

    This is something the Lord has to help me with. Someday may be my day :D

    The picture, ohhh the picture.
     
  5. The Soulgirl

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    In a way your right.. I am an athiest.. but then I have not had good proof that what you all believe in is real... and dont forget.. I have been enveloped and suffocated in all you speak of, yet I have not seen any real evidence of the God you speak of.. if he were real, he would not allow atrocities to happen to the good... but yet the bad still live and practice. Dont tell me all the bad peeps are our lesson! That would suck big time! I know for sure, if someone murdered or raped my Daughter I would do the same back... there would be no forgving!!
     
  6. TheBear

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    You know, if a non-believer comes to these forums, who is truely seeking answers in life, or to sincerley ask what Christianity is all about, or maybe has some unanswered questions about the Bible, or just wants to take a look at things from a Christian perspective, I will do anything I can, for as long as it takes, to help them. However, when people come here with absolutely no desire to seek the truth, or learn about Christianity or the Bible, but instead use this place as their own personal theater to attack Christianity, debunk the authority of the Bible, make fun of the people who believe in God, etc., I can only say to them...."Take a Hike!! Kindly remove yourself from here."
    If the same scenareo were occuring in your church, if every week there was someone amid the congregation, being distracting and disruptive and trying to cause strife and contention, laughing a the people in the congregation, mocking the pastor and playing a battle of the wits with anyone who tried to approach them, what do you think the church would say to that person?
    I don't come here to do constant battle with the nay-sayers, there's enough of that just outside my doors.

    Thank you, Kristen.


    John
     
  7. Blynn

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    AMEN! John.

    I feel the same way. I'm glad that somebody finally said it.

    Since we are on the subject:

    (I didn't say anything before but I was deeply saddened and offended on the "sex" thread that suggestied Jesus had sex with Mary Magdeline). :(


    Make fun of me, mock me, but DO NOT dishonor my Savior! :mad:


    Roberta
     
  8. TheBear

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    See also the thread, "Drawing the Line", under Bible Study, Testimonies, Inspirations & Sermons

    John
     
  9. jtc

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    Does not sin? That is impossible while here in the flesh my friend.
    1 John 1:8 says otherwise: "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us."
    What John means in 1 John 3:6 & 9 is that sin is not the normal course of life in a believer as it is in an unbeliever. John is referring back to what he said in 1 John 1:6: If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.
    The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.

    God Bless
     
  11. solo66 man

    solo66 man Well-Known Member

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    Amen, John,

    I am with you. I believe we should initially give the poster the benefit of the doubt but after a while, you know they are only wasting your or our time.
    Even the woman who kept pestering the Messiah and His disciples saying "This is the Messiah." to bystanders, interrupting
    the peace was cast out by Christ knowing she was demon possessed.
     
  12. jtc

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    read 1st john who is it addressed to he says in verse 3 so that you may also have fellowship with us so he is talking to un believers he tells them the basic pattern of salvation first thing is admit your a sinner noone can get saved until he admits he needs help but look at the next verse he says he will forgive them and cleanse them from all unrighteousness so if you are cleansed from all unrighteousness you wont sin anymore 1st john 3:5 in him is no sin if your still sinning after you claim to be saved you have never seen him or known him and 3:8 he who committeth sin is of the devil 3:9 whosoever is born of god does not commit sin Gods word never contradicts itself you have to repent of all your sins you have to be baptized by an apostle to recieve the holy ghost acts 2:38 8:18 hebrews 6:2. the reason you cant stop sinning becaused have not obeyed.
     
  13. jtc

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    you are not in the flesh but in the spirit if so be the spirit of god dwelleth in you i think its romans 8:11 the word of god never contradicts itself.
     
  14. jtc

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    jesus said if you love me keep my comandments read 1st john read hebrews 10:26 and 6:4 and the end of 2nd peter chapter 2
     
  15. TheBear

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    Amen, Terri !!!
     
  16. jtc

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    going to church does not save you,believing will not save you. the churches are the antichrist. in the end times jesus kept telling us to beware of all the false christs and false prophets that come in his name. there are over 2500 different religions today and they have all added to and taken away from the bible. in timothy it talks about the end times people wont endur sound doctrine but will heap to themselves teachers. God never stopped calling apostles ephesians 4:11 1st corin12:27. 1st john 3:6-9 john 8 :34 -37 jesus was normal sinful flesh like us. he was able to live sin free because he was born of the holy spirit and thats why we have to be born of the spirit"born again" jesus said in the end times the love of many will wax cold because iniquity wil abound. knowone can believe that anyone can live sin free because of how evil the world is. 1st john 3:5 we know jesus took away are sin "he did not saves us in our sins but from our sins"and in him is no sin whosoever abideth in him sinneth notwhoever sinneth has not seen him. knowone who is in christ will sin. that is why he said it will be like the times of noah only 8 were saved out of the whole world were saved.he said many people will try to enter in and fail. he said you have to strive to enter in. jesus's people are peculliar and holy.if you are a sinner you are no different from any one in the world.1st john 3:8 whoever sinneth is of the devil. by saying when your saved you keep sinning your saying the devil is more powerful than God because the spirit theson and the father are one and jesus said that if you obey him he and the father will make an abode in you. it all comes down to obedience. john 14:15 if you love me keep my commandments. 1st john chapter1, 2 and 5 your a liar if you walk in darkness if you dont keep his commandments you dont love him and you are a liar. jesus destroyed the works of the devil if you are still sinning jesus is not in you because your works are not destroyed. people say look at first john 1:9 well look at verse 3 he is not writing just to christain he says i am writing so you may also have fellowship with us. that proves he was not writing to believers only the first thing you have to do is admit your a sinner. he is faithful and just to forgive you and he will cleanse you from all unrighteousness. so if you are still sinning he has not not cleansed you from all unrighteousness and he is a liar. he cant lie you lie if you say your born again and the devil is still winning. this means 1 st john 3 does not contradict 1st john 3:6,9. it also agrees with hebrew 10:26 and 6:4. the only way to get the holy spirit to live in you is by repenting and being baptized by an apostle and have the laying on of his his hands acts 8:18 hebrews 6:2 and many other parts of acts. people bring up cornelius it does not say they were born of the spirit it says it fell upon them. it fell upon many people in the old testament and myself before i got saved. it couldnt live in me because i had not been born again. peter commanded them to be baptized so they could have their old man and all his deeds buried and rise a new creature. perfect and holy 2nd corin 5:17 peter even tells us that baptism doth now save us i think the verse is 1st pet 3:21 and jesus said unless your born of the water and the spirit and when jesus got baptized he said he had done it to fulfill all righteousness. its not an outward act to the world what blasphemy your adding to the word of God when you say that and your taking away from the word of god when you say you still sin when your saved and when you say their are no more apostles and when you say you dont need baptized. Jesus said when he returns many will say ley us in and he will say i never knew you depart from me. matthew 7:21-24. people love romans 10:9 and john 3:16 and they also love their sins. in timothy it says God kows who are his and let everyone who names the name of christ depart from iniquity. The bible never contradicts itself 1st john 3 :9 does not mean you dont practice sin paul says a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump and luke 13:3 and john 8:34 whosoever commiteth a sin is a servant of sin if you sin your not in christ . who do you think the anti christ is every church has told me you will never stop sinning and only jesus could live without sinning. tottally contradicts the bible
     
  17. jtc

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    who ever sinneth is of the devil it does not mean practice how many people do i got to kill before im a murderer paul says a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump 1st john is not talking to believers read 1st john 1:3 he is writing so that they might have fellowship with them that proves they were not having fellowship with them they were unbelievers just like you you claim the devil is more powerful then god what blasphemy you are an antichrist.john 8:34 1st john 3:1-10 the bible does not contradict itself.
     
  18. TheBear

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    jtc,

    Out of all the supposed 2500 denominations, how do you know the one you're in is not led by false prophets?

    John
     
  19. Apologist

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    JTC,

    Are you by any chance in the Boston Church Of Christ?
     
  20. Apologist

    Apologist 2 Tim. 2:24-26

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    That is one of the worst expositions of 1 John 1 I have ever heard. You really need to learn how to practice biblical exegesis my friend.

    God Bless
     
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