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What else is next? That is why Marijuanna is dangerous :(

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Philothei

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There was a book out on sugar being more addictive than heroin when I had been diagnosed with borderline hypoglycemia years back. I ended up with that from, yes, overdosing basically, on sugar. I was hunting around the house for anything chocolate and sugary. It was pitiful. My body so starved and craved it, and there was so much sugar in my blood stream when I got a blood test done, that it was causing some blockage of the blood to my brain. :(

Sugar can be deadly for diabetics and such. But I understand what you're saying. I do the sugar in moderation thing (have for years now, and still can't eat certain sugary things), and that works ok. :)


That proves that common sense is above all the best "law" around... I have a sweet tooth too and at times I search for sugary stuff...Still one thing to show your kids that you have self control within your life and that is great :) But to be doing something illegal is still an essential teaching ;)

That is all I was saying...

I have lost 10 pounds thus far cutting down on portions. And of course watching the sugar and indeed it is hard to resist it; as everything almost has "sugars" in one form or another. Also sugar is a carbohydrate and we need them to live.... We def. do not need marijuana to live or any other illegal drug ;)
 
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That proves that common sense is above all the best "law" around... I have a sweet tooth too and at times I search for sugary stuff...Still one thing to show your kids that you have self control within your life and that is great :) But to be doing something illegal is still an essential teaching ;)

That is all I was saying...

I have lost 10 pounds thus far cutting down on portions. And of course watching the sugar and indeed it is hard to resist it; as everything almost has "sugars" in one form or another. Also sugar is a carbohydrate and we need them to live.... We def. do not need marijuana to live or any other illegal drug ;)

Yes, well I had no control, nor did I know I needed any at that time - ages 18-20 when I OD'd. :blush:

Well, I don't want to really get into the drugs talk, seeing how I feel about illicit drugs, and alcohol, which is also a drug. I just try not to go to the extremes in my views. IOW, I tend to be very against them because of the experiences with alcohol and such, and I'm of the addictive sort of person, so I've learned moderation in sugar, and I am glad I never got into other addictive things. I really have to monitor myself in all stuff.
 
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Yes, well I had no control, nor did I know I needed any at that time - ages 18-20 when I OD'd. :blush:

Well, I don't want to really get into the drugs talk, seeing how I feel about illicit drugs, and alcohol, which is also a drug. I just try not to go to the extremes in my views. IOW, I tend to be very against them because of the experiences with alcohol and such, and I'm of the addictive sort of person, so I've learned moderation in sugar, and I am glad I never got into other addictive things. I really have to monitor myself in all stuff.

I understand what you are saying. When I was doing lent, I quite eating refined sugars and it was interesting. I do notice a difference in my health when lots of sugars are cut out of my diet.
 
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I understand what you are saying. When I was doing lent, I quite eating refined sugars and it was interesting. I do notice a difference in my health when lots of sugars are cut out of my diet.

Lots of sugar can cloud the mind and cause confusion, hard to concentrate, sleepiness, and disorientation....at least it did for me.
 
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Yes, well I had no control, nor did I know I needed any at that time - ages 18-20 when I OD'd. :blush:

Well, I don't want to really get into the drugs talk, seeing how I feel about illicit drugs, and alcohol, which is also a drug. I just try not to go to the extremes in my views. IOW, I tend to be very against them because of the experiences with alcohol and such, and I'm of the addictive sort of person, so I've learned moderation in sugar, and I am glad I never got into other addictive things. I really have to monitor myself in all stuff.
All I ask is that you learn to separate marijuana as medicine that relieves the suffering of many, from the culture of abusers. These really are two completely separate issues, and each issue needs to be dealt with individually and clearly... Which is the failure of this whole thread.
 
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All I ask is that you learn to separate marijuana as medicine that relieves the suffering of many, from the culture of abusers. These really are two completely separate issues, and each issue needs to be dealt with individually and clearly... Which is the failure of this whole thread.
I do understand the difference, and that is why I'm not very vocal in this discussion because I don't have a problem with medical marijuana. My other half has a different stance on this than I, so he helps to even me out so that I'm not totally off the one end of the spectrum on this. :D
 
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Lots of sugar can cloud the mind and cause confusion, hard to concentrate, sleepiness, and disorientation....at least it did for me.

For myself regarding my illnesses, it's a jolt to the system...like caffeine. The jolt is exaggerated. I can have small doses but nothing major. It's one reason I don't eat / drink caffeinated food either.
 
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For myself regarding my illnesses, it's a jolt to the system...like caffeine. The jolt is exaggerated. I can have small doses but nothing major. It's one reason I don't eat / drink caffeinated food either.

I can't have caffeine either. It actually does a bit worse to my system than sugar. It triggers my panic attacks and anxiety feelings, it causes heart palpitations, and makes me very sick to my stomach - nauseous. This was in a cola I had ages ago when I was on my strict diet for 3 years (kinda like cleaning out my system I think). I took literally two gulps of the drink, and I was nauseous. :o

Anyhow, I avoid caffeine, and don't miss it. Didn't grow up with it, so I didn't miss it when I wasn't allowed to have it. Before it started making me sick, it would give me these highs, (kinda like what you said), and I'd be bouncing off the walls as if I was drugged up. :sorry: Then it got worse. :( So none for me, thank you. :)
 
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I can't have caffeine either. It actually does a bit worse to my system than sugar. It triggers my panic attacks and anxiety feelings, it causes heart palpitations, and makes me very sick to my stomach - nauseous. This was in a cola I had ages ago when I was on my strict diet for 3 years (kinda like cleaning out my system I think). I took literally two gulps of the drink, and I was nauseous. :o

Anyhow, I avoid caffeine, and don't miss it. Didn't grow up with it, so I didn't miss it when I wasn't allowed to have it. Before it started making me sick, it would give me these highs, (kinda like what you said), and I'd be bouncing off the walls as if I was drugged up. :sorry: Then it got worse. :( So none for me, thank you. :)

I understand what you are saying. It gives me a jolt but when it wears off, the down time hits hard with fatigue. So it just makes the Chronic Fatigue syndrome worse. It does also affect my blood pressure and burns my tummy (acid reflux).
 
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I understand what you are saying. It gives me a jolt but when it wears off, the down time hits hard with fatigue. So it just makes the Chronic Fatigue syndrome worse. It does also affect my blood pressure and burns my tummy (acid reflux).
Ah, yes. I can see how that would really mess up your system, especially with the Chronic Fatigue syndrome. :(
 
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I do understand the difference, and that is why I'm not very vocal in this discussion because I don't have a problem with medical marijuana. My other half has a different stance on this than I, so he helps to even me out so that I'm not totally off the one end of the spectrum on this. :D
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All I ask is that you learn to separate marijuana as medicine that relieves the suffering of many, from the culture of abusers. These really are two completely separate issues, and each issue needs to be dealt with individually and clearly

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Yes, well I had no control, nor did I know I needed any at that time - ages 18-20 when I OD'd. :blush:

Well, I don't want to really get into the drugs talk, seeing how I feel about illicit drugs, and alcohol, which is also a drug. I just try not to go to the extremes in my views. IOW, I tend to be very against them because of the experiences with alcohol and such, and I'm of the addictive sort of person, so I've learned moderation in sugar, and I am glad I never got into other addictive things. I really have to monitor myself in all stuff.

Yeah...okie I understand what you are saying...I am not so much for alcohol at all since I hate the taste and it does not sit ok with my stomach to start up with...So I avoided it or drink so little just to join in social ways. As far as drugs I am opposed to all kinds of dependency thus hate all types from aspirin to cocaine...Anything chemical cannot be good for ya esp. when addiction is involved and we know the damage they do in our system.

Philo, you'll really need to clean up your last reply to me, it's such a mess I can't hardly tell what is me and what is you. You appear to be replying to me inside the quote, but you have some of my post mixed in at the same level... It kind of indicates to me the level of rationality with which you are approaching this subject. I can't reply to a chaotic mess.


:wave::DThat is ok Proto I am a bit too busy with sanding and refinishing my patio these days so it is impossible to go back and correct things... too much time consuming
 
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I can't have caffeine either. It actually does a bit worse to my system than sugar. It triggers my panic attacks and anxiety feelings, it causes heart palpitations, and makes me very sick to my stomach - nauseous. This was in a cola I had ages ago when I was on my strict diet for 3 years (kinda like cleaning out my system I think). I took literally two gulps of the drink, and I was nauseous. :o

Anyhow, I avoid caffeine, and don't miss it. Didn't grow up with it, so I didn't miss it when I wasn't allowed to have it. Before it started making me sick, it would give me these highs, (kinda like what you said), and I'd be bouncing off the walls as if I was drugged up. :sorry: Then it got worse. :( So none for me, thank you. :)


I have similar symptoms but have some more than that minus the anxiety attacks I have mussle pain and I get fibercystic and makes my mamograms come out abnormal :( I tried coffee for 5 years and now I again am off it....I feel much more relaxed and my BP has gone down about a noch... So yeah caffeine is bad for me :(
I understand what you are saying. It gives me a jolt but when it wears off, the down time hits hard with fatigue. So it just makes the Chronic Fatigue syndrome worse. It does also affect my blood pressure and burns my tummy (acid reflux).

ah...yeah the acid reflux and the BP :( both of them we can live without ^_^


sorry for the derail y'all I think I got you off track here ;) :blush::sorry:
 
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I have similar symptoms but have some more than that minus the anxiety attacks I have mussle pain and I get fibercystic and makes my mamograms come out abnormal :( I tried coffee for 5 years and now I again am off it....I feel much more relaxed and my BP has gone down about a noch... So yeah caffeine is bad for me :(
Oh yeah. I'd forgotten that - caffeine causes fibercysts/cysts. Yeah, not good.
 
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I have similar symptoms but have some more than that minus the anxiety attacks I have mussle pain and I get fibercystic and makes my mamograms come out abnormal :( I tried coffee for 5 years and now I again am off it....I feel much more relaxed and my BP has gone down about a noch... So yeah caffeine is bad for me :(


ah...yeah the acid reflux and the BP :( both of them we can live without ^_^


sorry for the derail y'all I think I got you off track here ;) :blush::sorry:

Sorry to hear you also have health problems. Not fun. :hug:
 
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How Marijuana (bud) Affects the Body and the Brain

Effects of Heavy Marijuana Use on Learning and Social Behavior. A study of college students has shown that critical skills related to attention, memory, and learning are impaired among people who use marijuana heavily, even after discontinuing its use for at least 24 hours. Researchers compared 65 "heavy users," who had smoked marijuana a median of 29 of the past 30 days, and 64 "light users," who had smoked a median of 1 of the past 30 days. After a closely monitored 19- to 24-hour period of abstinence from marijuana and other illicit drugs and alcohol, the undergraduates were given several standard tests measuring aspects of attention, memory, and learning. Compared to the light users, heavy marijuana users made more errors and had more difficulty sustaining attention, shifting attention to meet the demands of changes in the environment, and in registering, processing, and using information. The findings suggest that the greater impairment among heavy users is likely due to an alteration of brain activity produced by marijuana.
Longitudinal research on marijuana use among young people below college age indicates those who used have lower achievement than the non-users, more acceptance of deviant behavior, more delinquent behavior and aggression, greater rebelliousness, poorer relationships with parents, and more associations with delinquent and drug-using friends.
Information provided by the National Institute on Drug Abuse, 2003.
Shall we assume that it impairs the ability to drive a car? I think the state wisely attributes the Marijuana usage as DUIs.
 
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