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You need to use chakra water, a kabbalah bracelet, and aura goggles to manage that.They're in the minority. It's like New Agers getting all excited by the observed effect in quantum mechanics (see: 'What The Bleep Do We Know'). Quantum mechanics is a lot of things, but it doesn't let you channel a 35,000 year old Atlantean deity .
No, I can't calculate pi forever, because I'm going to die someday...that, and I have better things to do with my time.
Yup. Quite.Furtermore, I asked for a dream of pi and God couldn't give it to me, presumably because it doesn't exist. No doubt you will regard that as inconsequentially circumstantial.
And you will die before the galaxy is ever fully explored. Is that, too, and abomination?Thankfully morningstar had the confidence to point out that he would die before pi was ever fully calculated; that is exactly the point I am trying to make. It is an abomination.
I must say, I hardly see the point of attacking pi. It is a number. Perhaps I will attack the letter K....I must say, I hardly see the point of defending pi. Anyone can come up with a list of random numbers at the drop of a hat, yet somehow if you do it using a formula it is mysterious. Ridiculous!
Or perhaps have your pie and eat it too. Wow, I'm very funny...That you can't have your cake and eat it too?
I cannot. I am convinced, however, that you're pulling our leg. Nobody could ever argue these points and be honest about them.Ok, so I have dished out on something that people use, like people use a gun and it seems fair to say that I am arguing good should not happen because of it when clearly it does. But need I say "cars run on flat tyres"? You should be able to work out what I mean by that.
Yup.At this point you are probably wondering why I am keeping on going?
Yup. And I do.Well, what if I did? You would see that as a problem, wouldn't you, that I kept on expecting your attention?
I see your discussion of pi as a problem. I don't see irrational numbers as one.Ok, so you see that as a problem, therefore you must see pi as a problem.
Quite unfortunate.I can't be any more reasonable than that.
Ok well, since no one really considers the fact that our God does not communicate with pi to be of any relevance it makes making my point hard. . . .
. . . At this point you are probably wondering why I am keeping on going? Well, what if I did? You would see that as a problem, wouldn't you, that I kept on expecting your attention? Ok, so you see that as a problem, therefore you must see pi as a problem.
I can't be any more reasonable than that.
Pi isn't just a number, and it certainly isn't an abomination.
Pi can be represented with a picture.
Wow! Jesus just taught me something: the falsifiability of pi proves gravity.
Look at the sphere, it revolves like the Earth, only the Earth makes revolutions in exactly three dimensions (it does not unravel or make revolutions in more than three dimensions).... so the "infinity" of pi actually has something to do with the density of the Earth (I know the Earth is not infinitely dense, but pi is a diminishing infinity)
Can anyone else see the connection?
Have you ever read the novel Flatland?Wow! Jesus just taught me something: the falsifiability of pi proves gravity.
Look at the sphere, it revolves like the Earth, only the Earth makes revolutions in exactly three dimensions (it does not unravel or make revolutions in more than three dimensions).... so the "infinity" of pi actually has something to do with the density of the Earth (I know the Earth is not infinitely dense, but pi is a diminishing infinity)
Can anyone else see the connection?
I wonder how you would describe it. Like the impossibility of a sphere being divided by its diameter in anything less than three dimensions is the same thing that justifies an infinitely weak force being applied to its mass to keep it whole.
All I was seeing was that if you took the three numbers there (before 4) as literal dimensions, you would never see the Earth do what it does in that picture (yet the path it takes clearly has the simplicity of a diametric line when you look at the horizon).
Put it this way, if I challenged you to make an object that literally was pi, you could not do it (but the Earth is like an object that seems to be described by pi and yet has gravity).
Back to topic, I have to say that pi now seems to me to be an explanation that doesn't fit the context in which it was required (I wonder what that means for maths in God's sight)...
EDIT: re: maths. ... like maybe you can't separate signs from the numbers that use them. or maybe spherical objects are of a higher order to one dimensional objects (and so can't be divided into a lower order) or maybe phenomena like the qualities of an object can be equated with associations to that phenomena... or all three
Pi is a number. It can't be falsified because it is not a statement with a truth value and a probability associated with it.Wow! Jesus just taught me something: the falsifiability of pi proves gravity.
Vaguely. Is the connection that pi begins with a '3', and that a sphere is three-dimensional? The connection is the threes?Look at the sphere, it revolves like the Earth, only the Earth makes revolutions in exactly three dimensions (it does not unravel or make revolutions in more than three dimensions).... so the "infinity" of pi actually has something to do with the density of the Earth (I know the Earth is not infinitely dense, but pi is a diminishing infinity)
Can anyone else see the connection?
The Earth is related to pi in that it is roughly a sphere (more accurately, it is roughly an oblate spheroid). That the Earth has mass, and therefore a gravitational field, is entirely coincidental.Put it this way, if I challenged you to make an object that literally was pi, you could not do it (but the Earth is like an object that seems to be described by pi and yet has gravity).
Gottservant, you are making less and less sense. Just remember this little axiom: pi is a number. Irrational and trancendental, but a number nonetheless. Attributing any marvelous properties to it is as daft as saying the number 42 smells of yellow (no offence to any synaesthesiac among us).EDIT: re: maths. ... like maybe you can't separate signs from the numbers that use them. or maybe spherical objects are of a higher order to one dimensional objects (and so can't be divided into a lower order) or maybe phenomena like the qualities of an object can be equated with associations to that phenomena... or all three
Haha, I don't know whether that's a good thing or a bad thing. He's done these innane threads since forever, so either he's the Grand Poe Master of the Universe, or insanity incarnate.I think he's joking. He got you good Wiccan....
Thankfully morningstar had the confidence to point out that he would die before pi was ever fully calculated; that is exactly the point I am trying to make. It is an abomination.
That's nice, your insane.But in any case, I will tell you that God gave me three separate visions of pi. The first revealed that in reality, pi only exists as an exercise - the way muscle only exists relative to exercise. The second revealed that pi is incomplete - I saw a spiral falling away into an abyss. The third revealed that the only truth that exists in relation to pi is that you yourself truly search for the end of it.
Look at the sphere, it revolves like the Earth, only the Earth makes revolutions in exactly three dimensions (it does not unravel or make revolutions in more than three dimensions).... so the "infinity" of pi actually has something to do with the density of the Earth (I know the Earth is not infinitely dense, but pi is a diminishing infinity)
Can anyone else see the connection?
Yeah. I would wager that he is the latter.Haha, I don't know whether that's a good thing or a bad thing. He's done these innane threads since forever, so either he's the Grand Poe Master of the Universe, or insanity incarnate.
Hahahaha.....That's nice, your insane.
Taking a peek at FSDT I see this thread isn't Gottservant's first explanation of pi.Gottservant...search your name up on "Fundies Say the Darndest Things." The results may shock you.
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