I think he has resigned himself to sarcasm. It could be irony, but I was never any good at telling the differencegzt - i don't understand the point of your posts ...
If that is what Eastern Ukraine looks like, then I support the Russian invasion all the way! LOL!
shrugs I get the point of gzt's posts but maybe that's because I know of at least dozen Orthodox, who used to be regular members of TAW, that have quit this board for the very thing gzt is trying to point out.
Sorry to quote you again, but your comments are my thoughts on the whole thing.To be honest, I don't know enough of the situation. I imagine that all involved parties know more. As I stated before, the impression that I get is that it's not a clear-cut issue. There's a division among the people. On the surface, I rarely agree with getting involved with other civil wars. Those are typically domestic issues that need to work themselves out.
Putin is protecting Russian interests. As their president, I can't fault him along those lines. As I said earlier, I really don't know whose "side" I am on. Just praying that it all ends quickly because, no matter what, war is terrible.
shrugs I get the point of gzt's posts but maybe that's because I know of at least dozen Orthodox, who used to be regular members of TAW, that have quit this board for the very thing gzt is trying to point out.
did Russia actually invade? seems we've heard this many times now and it hasn't been true yet
Protecting interests. That's all it is. The U.S. doesn't help rebels because of some great cause. They do it to protect their own interests. That's it. The same thing Russia is doing which is why I have an attitude of "We've done no better and we have no room to condemn."
There's no justification for Putin's moves. From the point of view of a person who lives in a country that shares almost 1000km of common border with Russia and has has to deal with the Russian government on a dialy basis, it has been extremely frustrating to see the blind acceptance of Russians actions.
Russia is acting like a bully. For now, it's clear that it's trying to de-attach the Logansk / Donetsk oblasks from Ukraine. The steady flow of fighters over the borders to Ukraine will not stop until Putin gets what he wants. It's impossible to know what he is planning long-term, but his talks of restoring "Novorussia" are quite scary really.
In Finland we certainly don't feel safe. We are not a NATO nation, yet Russians actions are shifting the public opinion to that direction. Only in the last week, Russian military aircraft violated Finnish airspace several times. According to military specialists the violations were clearly intentional. In it's recent large-scale military exercises, Russia has trained direct attack over our borders.
We can acknowledge that USA's / Wests leaders aren't perfect either, but that doesn't mean we have to blindly support, or turn a blind eye, to other nations' transgressions. Russia is acting like a bully and is acting unpredictably. To see some people support Russia simply because of it's conservatism / orthodoxy seems like madness.
Actually the evidence is overwhelming. The pro-Russian Ukrainians even stated 1,000 Russian troops on "vacation"(with full Russian weaponry including armor) helped them out. Plus the numerous satalite photos and eyewitness accounts that all collaborate. Plus the troops geotagged inside Ukraine. Plus the Russian troopers captured in Ukraine. Unless you have a agenda it is pretty clear they are there.
You could argue that they have strategic intrest worth war.But to say they are not there is outside the realm of reality.
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