What do you guys think of Putin's moves this week?

[gurneyhalleck1]

And on us here, too! If Putin ever had to aim those puppies somewhere, it would toward us before Europe would get the mushroom cloud!

There's a nuclear threat? I saw it on the front page of Yahoo. May God have mercy upon all of Europe.

 

[Ioannis]

I don't know what to think. I am a little aggravated at the U.S. government's "holier than thou" attitude. They are pretty much condemning the exact same thing it's done over and over (helping rebels, influencing elections, etc.).

The most important takeaway is to pray for everyone involved. Ukraine, from what I understand, is a mess when it comes to the situation. Some Ukrainians side with Russia, some with NATO/EU and that makes it a big mess. This isn't exactly cut and dry, from what I get.

 

[faroukfarouk]

I don't know what to think. I am a little aggravated at the U.S. government's "holier than thou" attitude. They are pretty much condemning the exact same thing it's done over and over (helping rebels, influencing elections, etc.).

The most important takeaway is to pray for everyone involved. Ukraine, from what I understand, is a mess when it comes to the situation. Some Ukrainians side with Russia, some with NATO/EU and that makes it a big mess. This isn't exactly cut and dry, from what I get.

Helping rebels in Syria (currently) and Libya (previously), while condemning Russia for safeguarding its nuclear fleet in Ukraine. I'm a bit confused.

 

[RileyG]

And on us here, too! If Putin ever had to aim those puppies somewhere, it would toward us before Europe would get the mushroom cloud!

 

[Ioannis]

Helping rebels in Syria (currently) and Libya (previously), while condemning Russia for safeguarding its nuclear fleet in Ukraine. I'm a bit confused.

Protecting interests. That's all it is. The U.S. doesn't help rebels because of some great cause. They do it to protect their own interests. That's it. The same thing Russia is doing which is why I have an attitude of "We've done no better and we have no room to condemn."

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

I know the U.S. government is hypocritical, and we've intervened and manipulated and done so many foolish things, but putting that aside for just a minute and leaving the U.S. out of this discussion, let's JUST focus on Russia. Is it ok for Russia to just invade Ukraine willy-nilly? Are we all to accept it just because America has been hypocritical? Russia criticized us with Iraq, justifiably so, but let's forget this country for a minute and just address Russia. Is this ok?

Sure, we should pray, but putting all the prayer and hypocrisy arguments and discussions aside, what you guys think about this? Is this ok?

 

[jckstraw72]

this article says Ukrainians admit there is no evidence of Russia invading 26 августа власти Украины опровергли сообщение о вторжении российских войск

 

[andy b]

I know the U.S. government is hypocritical, and we've intervened and manipulated and done so many foolish things, but putting that aside for just a minute and leaving the U.S. out of this discussion, let's JUST focus on Russia. Is it ok for Russia to just invade Ukraine willy-nilly? Are we all to accept it just because America has been hypocritical? Russia criticized us with Iraq, justifiably so, but let's forget this country for a minute and just address Russia. Is this ok?

Sure, we should pray, but putting all the prayer and hypocrisy arguments and discussions aside, what you guys think about this? Is this ok?

its not okay but then again its not okay for mcdonalds to pay minimum wage but no one is going to war over it

 

[seekingfreedom]

The Ukraine and the west has been pushing Russia's buttons from the get go. Personally, I have been amazed at the restraint and every news article I read against Russia ends up being debunked by another.
I want sources straight from the horse's mouth and I want to see video. But, if the western media is saying they are looking at 10,000 NATO forces, because of 1000 Russian troops that may not even be there, it's NATO I am worried about.
Saber-rattling.

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

An invasion with worldwide possible repercussions and mounting tension with the EU and US, and you're comparing that to McDonald's? Seriously? Back during the Iraq invasion were you likening that to Wendy's? :o

its not okay but then again its not okay for mcdonalds to pay minimum wage but no one is going to war over it

 

[gzt]

Ukraine has been pushing Russia's buttons? It's a sovereign nation. The buttons are pushed just by existing.

Of course, I'll completely go back on this if Russia's incursion is somehow battling the Nazi/LGBT menace. You never know with these Ukrainians.

 

[jckstraw72]

gzt - i don't understand the point of your posts ...

 

[NamelessHero]

Most likely well intentioned, but foolish.

 

[SeventhValley]

It is not as much what it is doing but how it is doing it.

The US publicly announces military actions as per globally agreed upon rules. It never keeps areas and even invests in them before leaving.
The US is also getting out of other countries and leaving the world alone.

Russia destroys the Navy of a country who let it use it's port. It then holds false elections and annexes the area. It starts to send paratrooers and aid to other areas to take them over. It sends in its own troops when that dose not work.

If they had just said "hey we are taking over this area here for strategic reasons" this would not be a big deal.(we as big of a deal)

Also the US is helping other counties fight extermist Islamic groups where as Russia is fighting Christians.

 

[SeventhValley]

Hey it would be like the US taking over western Canada. It would make sense strategically.

 

[SeventhValley]

Supposedly this is East Ukraine...

 

[Dorothea]

Stephen, the US is the aggressor in every example you cited. Whether it is US violation of article 3 of the budapest memorandom, sending espionage planes near China to spy on them, or creating ISIS. We have no one to blame but ourselves.

The US does not solve international problems, they create them.

Bingo

 

[Dorothea]

I don't know what to think. I am a little aggravated at the U.S. government's "holier than thou" attitude. They are pretty much condemning the exact same thing it's done over and over (helping rebels, influencing elections, etc.).

The most important takeaway is to pray for everyone involved. Ukraine, from what I understand, is a mess when it comes to the situation. Some Ukrainians side with Russia, some with NATO/EU and that makes it a big mess. This isn't exactly cut and dry, from what I get.

Yes, I agree with this and some other comments. I have just been praying regularly for Ukraine and Russia and many other places in the world. For peace and God's help. That is all.

 

[Dorothea]

Protecting interests. That's all it is. The U.S. doesn't help rebels because of some great cause. They do it to protect their own interests. That's it. The same thing Russia is doing which is why I have an attitude of "We've done no better and we have no room to condemn."

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

If that is what Eastern Ukraine looks like, then I support the Russian invasion all the way! LOL!

Supposedly this is East Ukraine...