What do we do to prevent another Las Vegas?

[Armoured]

Well, I'm sure someone is going to bring up that technically a rifle with a bump stock is not an automatic weapon.

Yes. I'm sure. Because the real issue here is exacting semantic correctness, not, you know, people killing other people.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Or Orlando? Or San Bernardino? Or Columbine? Or Newtown?

Political action? Legal action? Social action? Personal action?

Or should we even bother? Do we simply resign ourselves to going through these motions again in another 6 months or so? Or are we counting on these kinds of incidents to just go away?

Thoughts?

We need another 60's like peace movement..!

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Everyone needs Jesus.

(the so-called peace movement? wasn't it involved with a lot of drugs, sex, and other sin ? )

 

[dogs4thewin]

One thing and I know I will take heat for this but NO gun-free zones.

 

[Landon Caeli]

 

[dogs4thewin]

Nope, never. That's why our laws concerning firearms and other weapons haven't changed in over 200 years. /s

Actually, they have quite a bit.

 

[dogs4thewin]

With the current division in the U.S. at critical mass, I honestly don't see how any change can happen now. The divisions are too deep.

Gun regulation is too ingrained in political identity now and it appears that most folks in the U.S. are far, far too entrenched in their own political identity that there is no room for compromise.

It is a shame, because in times like the other night, nothing can be done but sweep up the mess, get rid of the blood, bury the bodies and wait for it to happen again. And it will happen again.

Sorry, but prayer at this point is an empty gesture. Prayer hasn't been in short supply; action, on the other hand, has been.

I disagree that prayer is an empty gesture we can always use prayer and should always pray for those affected. Now, that does not mean that action should not be taken, as well It is a both/and not either/or.

 

[dogs4thewin]

I agree with your post. But it doesn't appear at this time that in this particular case it would have made a difference. This guy wasn't strapped for cash, he hadn't had problems with law enforcement, etc.

Not in this particular case, but in a number of other cases. You will always have issues, but what you can do is disagree them in number.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Yes, many states have adopted much stricter gun laws, such as my state did several yrs. ago. Some people were really upset by it too, we're rednecks a'know. But more of us saw it as the moral thing to do.

I do think there should be tougher consequences for parents who leave guns where kids can get to them.

What sort of penalties do you suggest? I believe it is more about TEACHING gun safety than anything. I mean guns do no good locked up, so it would be important to teach kids the seriousness of guns. What do you mean child? That could be two that could be 12 in most states that could be 17.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Quite a few people since, you know, several dozen people were just mowed down at a concert, and it is becoming a more common problem. I think this at least warrants an honest discussion.

Nah, let's just keep things as they are and hope that the next time this happens there will be a good guy with a gun to stop him.

There wasn't one this time or the last few but, maybe next time.

 

[LoAmmi]

One thing and I know I will take heat for this but NO gun-free zones.

How strictly do you define that? My synagogue bans guns because of numerous attacks Jews have been subject to throughout the years. Is that ok?

 

[dogs4thewin]

Owning a firearm is a luxury. Would I be frustrated? Sure. Would I lose sleep over it? Not a wink.

Actually for most in this country it is a RIGHT.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I disagree that prayer is an empty gesture we can always use prayer and should always pray for those affected. Now, that does not mean that action should not be taken, as well It is a both/and not either/or.

Prayer is most often an empty gesture on earth.
Remember that God says He does not even hear the prayers of most people. (paraphrased)

So when they pray, what for ? He does not hear. Thus empty gestures (without repentance; without seeking His Kingdom or His Will) .....

The examples in Old and New Testament of prayer, even the command/instruction to pray, and the powerful results/answers to prayer from the Creator of all things
are well known
and often used ("claimed") to try to get Him to answer, or expect Him to answer, but He will not change. He does as He pleases, as He Says, as it is written.

 

[dogs4thewin]

How strictly do you define that? My synagogue bans guns because of numerous attacks Jews have been subject to throughout the years. Is that ok?

Is what OK The shootings of Jews, or the banning of guns?

 

[dogs4thewin]

Cops don't ask if we have guns or not.They just raid our homes and belongings. And take the guns.

and when they choose to do so you can get it thrown out of court.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Everyone needs Jesus.

(the so-called peace movement? wasn't it involved with a lot of drugs, sex, and other sin ? )

...It doesn't just have to be.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

How strictly do you define that? My synagogue bans guns because of numerous attacks Jews have been subject to throughout the years. Is that ok?

I met two people recently , who were in a city in Kansas last year,
in a gas station/ convenience store with others (regular shoppers, and .... ) ...

Someone at the cash register pulled a gun and aimed it at the clerk demanding money from the clerk.

Within LESS THAN 3 seconds, 4 or 5 others present had their own guns drawn and pointed directly at the thief. (they all had legal possession of firearms, except the thief) ...

needless to say, the robbery was thwarted, and no one was hurt or shot.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

and when they choose to do so you can get it thrown out of court.

sometimes.
sometimes they cannot go to court.
they are shot dead during the break in.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Federal Backround Checks.

How will that do any good if someone gets a gun illegally? This could be because they stole the gun for the event or that they had already stolen or been given the gun at a prior time.

 

[LoAmmi]

Is what OK The shootings of Jews, or the banning of guns?

The banning of guns. If I had to honestly ask you if shooting Jews was ok, I think we'd already just be at the point I didn't speak to you.