what do people here think of Joyce Meyer?

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus what do people here think of Joyce Meyer?


No more different than I think of Joel Olsteen. Both of them would make a cute couple

The pope races from the plane to catch the next sermon of Joel Olsteen and Joyce Meyer

Have you heard Joyce Meyer's messages lately, LLOJ?

A recent message on "holiness"

Enjoying Everyday Life – Television Show | Joyce Meyer Ministries

Nope. I don't watch TV Evangelicists. I do like watching "Wipeout" tho...

Top 10 Wipeout Moments - YouTube

 

[Rick Otto]

The only public Christian figures I know in history that are totally free from evil are the John Wesley Methodist between the time of 1730 and 1900. Even men like DL Moody and Ira Sankey were criticized by the English for making money off their publications (Ira Sankey had mastered a very popular hymnal during the time).

I like the Weslayan Confession, especialy what they have to say about predestination.

 

[Rick Otto]

Have you heard her entire testimony from beginning to end? Including when her parents got elderly? I had stopped watching her, but resumed a month or two ago. I have seen God's grace working in her as she speaks on stage. Most recently she is speaking on the "fruits of the Spirit" and "holiness" "giving" and "forgiving".

Sounds wonderful brinny, but it all shines like the gleam from a page of an expertly written brochure. And tho she speak with the tongue of an angel, it's nothing the Holy Spirit wouldn't speak directly to my conscience or thru someone or something more relevant to my world. A person's actions speak at least as loud as their words, to me. It was one reason I failed to idolize John Lennon in my youth. He was a lousy husband & father, imho.
See what I mean? You've chosen not to respond to the report on what's she's said or her lifestyle. What does that say?

 

[brinny]

Originally Posted by brinny
Have you heard her entire testimony from beginning to end? Including when her parents got elderly? I had stopped watching her, but resumed a month or two ago. I have seen God's grace working in her as she speaks on stage. Most recently she is speaking on the "fruits of the Spirit" and "holiness" "giving" and "forgiving".

Sounds wonderful brinny, but it all shines like the gleam from a page of an expertly written brochure. And tho she speak with the tongue of an angel, it's nothing the Holy Spirit wouldn't speak directly to my conscience or thru someone or something more relevant to my world. A person's actions speak at least as loud as their words, to me. It was one reason I failed to idolize John Lennon in my youth. He was a lousy husband & father, imho.
See what I mean? You've chosen not to respond to the report on what's she's said or her lifestyle. What does that say?

It's not about "idolizing" anyone Rick. It's about seeing a living, breathing testimony of God's grace un-fold before one's eyes. She represents each one of us, how we stumble, and yet God continually pours out His grace upon us, enabling us to get up one mo' time, and be that living, breathing testimony that He ordained since before the foundation of the world. She, like so many others, are a testimony to how what man meant for evil, God has turned into a tail-spin and broken generational curses, wickedness in high places, and redeemed what the enemy had his claim on. That's you and me and each one of us, brother in Christ and beloved son of the Most High God.

 

[Purge187]

Joyce's style of preaching has a haughty, boastful tone to it. Granted, she's been through a lot--she claims to have been repeatedly abused by her father as a child--and she deserves credit for overcoming such a horrible ordeal, but even so, I prefer John Hagee or David Jeremiah.

 

[Rick Otto]

I didn't mean idolizing in a strict & negative sense, nonetheless, & not to disagree with what you've said, but again you offer not even a hint of recognition, pro or con, of the lifestyle & quotation reports here on this thread.

It tends to undermine one's credibility regarding positives when one totaly ignores the glaring negatives, don't you think so?

 

[Albion]

Joyce's style of preaching has a haughty, boastful tone to it. Granted, she's been through a lot--she claims to have been repeatedly abused by her father as a child--and she deserves credit for overcoming such a horrible ordeal, but even so, I prefer John Hagee or David Jeremiah.

and you DON'T think John Hagee has a haughty, boastful manner?

 

[brinny]

Joyce's style of preaching has a haughty, boastful tone to it. Granted, she's been through a lot--she claims to have been repeatedly abused by her father as a child--and she deserves credit for overcoming such a horrible ordeal, but even so, I prefer John Hagee or David Jeremiah.

None of who you mentioned are opposed to each other.

She gives credit to God for the overcoming, and that it is a continual process. She spoke recently on her "journey" to becoming a "submissive" wife in the real sense of what that means, and not what it is presumed to mean. We have all watched her journey. When she first started out teaching Bible classes she sat on her living room floor in a mini skirt and smoked cigarettes as she taught God's Word.

 

[brinny]

I didn't mean idolizing in a strict & negative sense, nonetheless, & not to disagree with what you've said, but again you offer not even a hint of recognition, pro or con, of the lifestyle & quotation reports here on this thread.

It tends to undermine one's credibility regarding positives when one totaly ignores the glaring negatives, don't you think so?

Joyce admits herself the "glaring negatives" in her journey. She admits God is not finished with her yet. Life happens, to ALL of us. Only thing is, we're not under the spotlight. WE ALL gots our stumbbles and blunders and downright blatant sins and flaws, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US. Yet, God keeps working His grace through us. We all live in glass houses.

 

[Rick Otto]

Now I get it.

 

[brinny]

Care to elaborate?

 

[squint]

The danger that some of these 'proclaimers' carry is that 95% of what they say seems so very right and so very practical that they lull one into a yes yes yes mode all the way to the HOOK at the end, when they slip in the big fat HERESY.

If one does not have an awareness of this methodology that is often employed within charismatic circles they will inevitably have their yes yes yes minds sunk with that big HARPOON at the end and will go smiling with it stuck in their heads and not even realize they have been stabbed with it.

Reel 'em in Joyce. They are yours for the spearing.

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[sunlover1]

Joyce's style of preaching has a haughty, boastful tone to it. Granted, she's been through a lot--she claims to have been repeatedly abused by her father as a child--and she deserves credit for overcoming such a horrible ordeal, but even so, I prefer John Hagee or David Jeremiah.

She has a "hard" personality.
What's cool is that God is able to use whoever will
make themselves available to Him... for the work
of the ministry.
So it's not about US, how we look, how we talk,...
it's all about the gifts deposited IN us.

I didn't mean idolizing in a strict & negative sense, nonetheless, & not to disagree with what you've said, but again you offer not even a hint of recognition, pro or con, of the lifestyle & quotation reports here on this thread.

It tends to undermine one's credibility regarding positives when one totaly ignores the glaring negatives, don't you think so?

I've seen the negatives and speak little about them.
The fancy house..
We all have much more than we "need"
Where do we draw the line?
At the limits of OUR Incomes? lol.
My house is way larger and prettier than I need
but not near as big as I'd love to have.
Is that greedy? that I'd have a huge house while
there are children starving in Haiti?
Would there be less children starving if I had
a smaller house?

Did God bless me with a nice home?
Does God do such things?

A lot of things to consider.

I've buried MY talents.
She's using hers.

 

[Rick Otto]

Care to elaborate?

You can identify with her.
She's like the original reality show - a mini series, but with a bible study in every episode.

My wife chose to be an RN. After years of gerontology, a couple years of rehab for pediatric brain surgery patients, a half dozen years of psych rotations, she's been the sole, and now one of 2 RNs at a county jail.

In comparison, Joyce bores the daylights out of me, darlin'.
Not that she isn't interesting, ...just not so much to me, is all.

 

[Habakk]

The only public Christian figures I know in history that are totally free from evil are the John Wesley Methodist between the time of 1730 and 1900. Even men like DL Moody and Ira Sankey were criticized by the English for making money off their publications (Ira Sankey had mastered a very popular hymnal during the time).

I agree with you nobody is perfect. It’s not her preaching style, attitude or perfection that concerns me. There are other prosperity gospel and televangelists doing exactly the same thing. It’s the serious heresies that concern me; they are an attack on the saviour. Lies and unscriptural truths about the atoning death on the cross. That is a very serious matter.
It is another gospel, not the gospel of the bible.

 

[brinny]

You can identify with her.
She's like the original reality show - a mini series, but with a bible study in every episode.

My wife chose to be an RN. After years of gerontology, a couple years of rehab for pediatric brain surgery patients, a half dozen years of psych rotations, she's been the sole, and now one of 2 RNs at a county jail.

In comparison, Joyce bores the daylights out of me, darlin'.
Not that she isn't interesting, ...just not so much to me, is all.

Aah, dear brother, perhaps you are focusin' too much on "Joyce" then and not scrutinizin' her "message" and lining it up with the Bible.

Your wife sounds like a lovely soul. (Proverbs 31 comes to mind) God bless her BIG TIME.

 

[Rick Otto]

I agree with you nobody is perfect. It’s not her preaching style, attitude or perfection that concerns me. There are other prosperity gospel and televangelists doing exactly the same thing. It’s the serious heresies that concern me; they are an attack on the saviour. Lies and unscriptural truths about the atoning death on the cross. That is a very serious matter.
It is another gospel, not the gospel of the bible.

You don't seem to be getting any attention.

 

[sunlover1]

You don't seem to be getting any attention.

He has, scroll back.

 

[Habakk]

God said to Adam “And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.”

The serpent said to Eve ”Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?”

The enemy comes in subtly with his doctrine of devils by first subtly changing the words even though they are very similar, just to change emphasis. The deception follows from this.

The enemy doesn’t care about good or bad teaching philosophy; he only wants to try to annul the effect of the cross. As he was defeated at Calvary he can only try to corrupt the teaching and biblical doctrines of the cross. It’s not about doctrinal differences it’s about very serious heresy concerning the cross on which our salvation depends.

 

[PinkSapphire007]

this place cracks me up. As for the OP, I think little "on" Joyce. I listen to her when I can (don't get it on tv up here)...she is a good woman and has done alot of good. I don't agree with all her theology, kinda like I don't agree with others people theology either.

As for her money, some of you sound like my family. They moan and groan that my husband and I are fairly well off (he makes over 100K a year most goes to taxes), while they prefer to live in an economically depressed area with no hope of moving up. YET, they will sit back and point their finger and complain, because my husband bettered himself. SO Joyce has alot of money. WHO cares. She is helping the poor and reaching out to the needy. Are any of the "complainers" here doing that? NO? Well, where is your theology on helping the poor??