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what do people here think of Joyce Meyer?

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Will believers be there? Depends on who's talking. Many sects don't even know if they are saved and charismania in general is in that vein along with most traditionalism.

They don't know for sure if they are saved but they know for sure for sure that anyone who doesn't listen to them may or will not be?

Fat chance.

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Interesting picture you paint with that broad brush s.

But what does SQUINT say about it?
Will believers be there?
And then what exactly IS a believer?
What's squint's criteria?
Because tbh, it often seems that your ambiguity is a cover up
for your double mindedness :p
(i partly jest, and that only because I know you're a good sport)
So what is it 'really' Squint?
Can we talk?
 
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Interesting picture you paint with that broad brush s.

It's a fact.
But what does SQUINT say about it?
Will believers be there?

Of course not. Not even J. Meyer.
And then what exactly IS a believer?

Good question. I admit a liberal measure.

What's squint's criteria?

Romans 10:13 or 1 John 4:7. Either is entirely sufficient for my sights.
Because tbh, it often seems that your ambiguity is a cover up
for your double mindedness

No, it's not ambiguous at all that I can see. Does this mean we are allowed a full discussion here? Uh, no. I stay within the rules.

(i partly jest, and that only because I know you're a good sport)
So what is it 'really' Squint?
Can we talk?

We can to a certain extent. You should know by now that I hold no ill intentions to any believer who posts here and as far as I'm concerned anyone who is here is a believer.

You might also get the sense that I'm not very fond of people who try to burn me alive forever or eternally kill me either outright or as a possibility.

hmm? Wonder why?

seriously...ignorant...some are.

Do I blame them? Uh, no. There are Divine Rabbit Holes set into the text that are designed to trap and they are very effective traps.

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If you're listening to Joyce Meyer...you won't be rooted and grounded in good sound doctrinal teaching.

*She'll talk you to death using a few scriptures.

*She believes Jesus went to hell and was tortured by Satan and his demons.

If you listen to her you better be rooted and grounded in the word. You can get *some* good teaching...but you need to know what to throw away.

Joyce Meyer is a typical word of faith teacher. I think Hank Hannegraf pegs her pretty good using her own words.



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I have not listened to much of her speaking but know she will not wear the same suit of clothes twice and she sure make a bundle of cash. I hear most of what I know of her from women who listen or have read her books. Can't say I like what I've heard. Sound like a pseudo Benny Hinn of the female type. I did hear her speak about worrying while channel surfing. She was spot on about how it can hurt one but her remedy was about like saying , "JUST STOP IT". She always has something for sale. But she's about what i expect from a rich TV evangelist type. Living like a queen while preaching to the peasants about giving to the poor. Namely poor Joyce.

have you listened to her messages lately, Rev?
 
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Gee, and I've listened to dozens of her lectures and still don't believe that Jesus was tortured in hell. Go figure.

Now that I think of it, I once heard a preacher say that baptism has to be by immersion. He was one of the most powerful preachers I've ever encountered. I appreciated everything else he said about the love of Christ, his sacrifice for our sins, and such things, not understanding at all that I was in grave danger of becoming a Baptist without realizing it.
 
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If there is any doubt that these people are selling others a PYRAMID SCHEME in the 'Name of God' let's just make sure that's what it is.

Is there such a legitimate animal as A CHRISTIAN PYRAMID SCHEME?

Uh, no. No more than there are legitimate Christian 'Infallible' organizations who murder, torture and take rights away from people.

Does Joyce M. claim that God promises to multiply the MONEY SEED of anyone who sows into her ministry?

Uh, duh. Almost every last one of these charlatans makes that claim.

If that WERE truthful everyone on the planet would be not only donating but WEALTHY.

Their pitch is in essence nothing more than a petty PYRAMID SCHEME with a Christian brand attached for supposed legitimacy.

Usually the 'multiplication factor is 10 times your donated money.
That seems to be a consistent 'verifiable legitimate promise' from Gods Word...

sure...

Believers can be so ignorant can't they?

IF there was a little round face emoticon puking I'd insert it right here

X________

Ya hate to see people have to go through this, but it is what it is.

Getting a 10 fold return on donated $ is nothing other than a MAGICAL SUPERSTITION. People deserve what they get if that's what they believe.

Rhematology?



Joyce Meyer Teaches You Can Speak Things Into Existence - YouTube


Joyce Meyer False Prosperity Gospel Sow a Seed Meet a Need! - YouTube

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If that WERE truthful everyone on the planet would be not only donating but WEALTHY.
When i was a toddler Christian, I began giving to some television ministry (not this one)
At that time the household income was usually around 35 grand.
The following year the income was 100 grand.
*shrugs
Maybe He DOES increase us financially
Either way, that's what happened.
No, I don't give to any television ministries now.

Believers can be so ignorant can't they?
Yes, that's why I ignore these little clips taken out of context.
I've watched the woman. MANY times in the past.
She's been a blessing, as have many other well
known teachers who aren't infallible.

Artist rendition of Salomon's palace and temple.
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Women should not be Pastors.

Joyce Meyers is not a pastor. A pastor is someone who leads a congregation of people. That Joyce Meyers does not. Wilkipedia correctly describes her as a "Charismatic Christian author and speaker. "
 
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what do people here think of Joyce Meyer?


No more different than I think of Joel Olsteen. Both of them would make a cute couple :)

The pope races from the plane to catch the next sermon of Joel Olsteen and Joyce Meyer :)

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Joyce Meyers will be speaking at Joel Osteen's Lakewood church this weekend (Sat and Sun). You can watch it live online. Ya reckon the pope will be there too?


Lakewood church home page
 
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When i was a toddler Christian, I began giving to some television ministry (not this one)
At that time the household income was usually around 35 grand.
The following year the income was 100 grand.
*shrugs
Maybe He DOES increase us financially
Either way, that's what happened.
No, I don't give to any television ministries now.

Yes, that's why I ignore these little clips taken out of context.
I've watched the woman. MANY times in the past.
She's been a blessing, as have many other well
known teachers who aren't infallible.

Artist rendition of Salomon's palace and temple.

Well God bless ya sista. You should renew your financial vows to her ministry so you too can receive again pressed down, shaken togetha and runnin over, halleluiah in the Name of Jesus! I rebuke you Satan!

If you really believed that you'd be foolish not to.

Is yer faith insufficient sista? Is there hidden sin in your life that keeps you from receivin? You understand you have to 'grow' into these things over time, and any adversity could be God building you such a blessing, OH LORD ah see it NOWa. Lordy.

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Joyce Meyers is not a pastor. A pastor is someone who leads a congregation of people. That Joyce Meyers does not. Wilkipedia correctly describes her as a "Charismatic Christian author and speaker. "
Seeing your screen name makes me sing :D

Rocky Top w/ Lyrics - YouTube

Gotta LOVE that banjo solo!
 
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Joyce Meyers is not a pastor. A pastor is someone who leads a congregation of people. That Joyce Meyers does not. Wilkipedia correctly describes her as a "Charismatic Christian author and speaker. "
She's been ordained, and that's the term that is normally used in her faith, even if not exactly accurate.

I make it a policy to call Catholic priests "priests", too, and Mormon elders "elders," even though there are certain objections that could be made about the appropriateness of those terms. By the way, there are thousands of ministers in various denominations that continue to be called "pastor," even if the do only administrative work or are retired. They can, of course, be called upon to do pastoral duties if needed.Other denominations consider a pastor to have ceased to be a pastor the moment he ceases to lead a congregation.
 
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Well God bless ya sista. You should renew your financial vows to her ministry so you too can receive again pressed down, shaken togetha and runnin over, halleluiah in the Name of Jesus! I rebuke you Satan!
I never gave a cent to her ministry.

Is yer faith insufficient sista? Is there hidden sin in your life that keeps you from receivin?

You sound just like her ;)
Actually s, I had a 'frozen shoulder' for over a year. and there WAS some
unforgiveness in my heart that I didn't realize.
I was walking in love towards the person I'd felt negatively about and that
very night in bed, God healed my shoulder.
This was last month. So ... maybe there's something to that stuff :holy:

May want to forgo the mocking
regardless of how YOU feel about her.
God might not share your hatred.
Just a thought.
I've found he rarely hates my enemies ..and so I end up changing my
mind rather than asking Him to change His. :thumbsup:
 
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I agree. but they were kinda malicious . didn't leave a positive impression for me .
I doubt it was meant to make a positive impression on you. We were the butt of those jokes. I got a long list of blond joke in my pocket as well. If I were a blond (like my wife....maybe that's Clairol by now) I wouldn't find them quite as funny either. I'm pretty much bald but for some reason, those jokes I do find funny.
 
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