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What did Jesus really mean when he said turn the other cheek ?

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Well in spite of these so called professional opinions, the reason I asked is because if Jesus only gospel, the Gospel of the Kingdom was not predominant in all her writings then I would have to pass. Jesus, then and now, would not miss an opportunity to expand on His only Gospel and would spend little time on religion or any other aspects than His two commandments. Jesus was not a Catholic either.
 
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Is he telling us when we are getting assaulted not to defend ourselves or is that a figure of speech not to be combative?
Let us look at the context:
38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’
39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.
40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well.
41 If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles.
42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’
44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven.

Revolutionary teaching! Counter cultural! Even scandalous to many. Many cannot accept it.
Or is it all a "figure of speech"?
 
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Especially today. Both Biden and Trump would call you a traitor for following that narrative,.
Why do we become literal sticklers about Genesis creation and then blow off the real challenges of Jesus?
 
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Well in spite of these so called professional opinions, the reason I asked is because if Jesus only gospel, the Gospel of the Kingdom was not predominant in all her writings then I would have to pass. Jesus, then and now, would not miss an opportunity to expand on His only Gospel and would spend little time on religion or any other aspects than His two commandments. Jesus was not a Catholic either.

I've come to know Jesus more through Maria Valtorta's writings, such as His personality, speaking habits, topics he liked to speak about, etc., and He absolutely did speak about more than what you think. Her writings compiled into the book The Poem of the Man-God is all that you read in the New Testament and more, but with more detail thanks to Jesus. And Catholic Christians were the first Christians, they have existed for over two thousand years. The Catholic Church is the Christian Church Jesus founded. Every other Christian denomination came centuries later. So, Jesus certainly wasn't any of the later denominations, which leaves Catholic Christian.
 
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So, Jesus certainly wasn't any of the later denominations, which leaves Catholic Christian.
I agree. He was a Jew who started a movement out of His Hebrew religion. Others just ended up laying claim to it because Jesus was open source.
 
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When was a movement started....



1 John 1:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)

1 John 2:7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.


1 John 2:13 I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the Father.
14 I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one.

1 John 2:24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.

1 John 3:11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
13 Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.
14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.

2 John 1:5 And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another.
6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
 
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I agree. He was a Jew who started a movement out of His Hebrew religion. Others just ended up laying claim to it because Jesus was open source.

Jesus founded Christianity and Catholic Christians were the only ones who go back as far as Jesus, over two thousand years ago. Every other Christian denomination founded by other men came centuries later.
 
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Is he telling us when we are getting assaulted not to defend ourselves or is that a figure of speech not to be combative?
I now thing he was using hyperbole to make an effective point. Don't make retaliation you automatic response. In fact, avoid it.

That does not mean do not defend yourself
 
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Jesus founded Christianity and Catholic Christians were the only ones who go back as far as Jesus, over two thousand years ago. Every other Christian denomination founded by other men came centuries later.
you are answered on the other thread about your misconception of the church. ( everyone can read for themselves and see if scripture is right, on scripture forum, or non scripture is right even on the Christian scriptue forum.
 
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I now thing he was using hyperbole to make an effective point. Don't make retaliation you automatic response. In fact, avoid it.

That does not mean do not defend yourself
here is how Jesus tells about defence...


John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
 
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More of the testimony of scripture, for the defending that Jesus did:



Isaiah 53:7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

John 19:9 And went again into the judgment hall, and saith unto Jesus, Whence art thou? But Jesus gave him no answer.
10 Then saith Pilate unto him, Speakest thou not unto me? knowest thou not that I have power to crucify thee, and have power to release thee?
11 Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.
12 And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar's friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar.
 
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you are answered on the other thread about your misconception of the church. ( everyone can read for themselves and see if scripture is right, on scripture forum, or non scripture is right even on the Christian scriptue forum.

What misconception? It's a fact that Jesus founded Christianity and Catholic Christians were the only ones who go back as far as Jesus, over two thousand years ago. Every other Christian denomination founded by other men came centuries later.
 
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So they were the Way and the Nazarenes and they promoted the Kingdom and not any government or ways of mankind.

If they belonged to the Christian Catholic Church Jesus founded then they were Christian Catholics, because Jesus intended Jews, Gentiles, people of all folds, to come into His one fold. Unfortunately, centuries after His Church's inception, other men formed their own Christian denomination, rather than join or remain in Jesus's Christian (Catholic) fold that He founded.
 
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