What Day Of The Week Is The Sabbath?

[FEZZILLA]

Did you somehow skip over the content of Sophia's posts?

You must have, since it is obvious to us all that everything that you've said so far about SDAs and EGW isn't true.

Hey, any time you want to apologize for speaking lies about SDAs and EGW feel free to do so!

Slander is a sin, you know?

Read Origen's post in the SDA section that I mentioned and you'll see that she says that only Sabbath keepers are saved. Don't accuse me of false testimony when SDA Dubiologist have been fabricating quotations by sunday keeping Authors! Have you ever studied the history of Christianity through actually documents regarding sunday keeping?

 

[woobadooba]

Read Origen's post in the SDA section that I mentioned and you'll see that she says that only Sabbath keepers are saved. Don't accuse me of false testimony when SDA Dubiologist have been fabricating quotations by sunday keeping Authors! Have you ever studied the history of Christianity through actually documents regarding sunday keeping?

I have a better idea for you...

Rather than judging our whole church by what one person says, how about taking a look at our official beliefs!

http://www.adventist.org/beliefs/fundamental/index.html

 

[FEZZILLA]

I'd like to know what day of the week is the Sabbath and I don't want to hear the seventh day. Is it Saturday?

The Sabbath to a Christian can be any day one makes sacred to God. Legalistically speaking, the Sabbath law was given to Israel as a special "covenant". I can't believe none of you SDA's cannot comprehend this.
Do you still stone people like the law says when one breaks the Sabbath laws? No! Therefore you are lawbreakers!

Oh,..I see...Jesus just died for sheep, right? He was an animal rights activist, right? If sheep scarifice is all that Jesus accomplished, what did he do for us? And why do you always dodge Bible verses that answer you skeptism?

Do sunday Christians find life--while worshiping on sunday--or not?!

 

[woobadooba]

To those who might be interested, it appears that the person (origen) that FEZILLA is referring to is not even an SDA. So how could this person rightly testify to what we believe?

It is obvious that we are being slandered against by some people in here. This is common practice amongst many though, so we are used to it by now.

Here is the link if you care to take a look at the discourse that went on in the SDA forum concerning origen:

http://www.christianforums.com/t2370192-does-gods-grace-cancel-his-laws.html&page=2

 

[FEZZILLA]

I have a better idea for you...

Rather than judging our whole church by what one person says, how about taking a look at our official beliefs!

http://www.adventist.org/beliefs/fundamental/index.html

Yeah, I know, those are nothing but a smoke-screen for those that don't know any better. E.G.White is the final say of the SDA church. To deny her is to deny the movement altogether. Besides, the vast majority of every SDA-Dubiologist I've seen preaches the death to Sunday false gospel.


Why do SDA's enjoy creating so much division in the church? And why do they slander Sunday Pastors so hard? (1Cor.1:10-17 ...huh, whats the point of quoting scripture when they don't bother to read it?).

 

[woobadooba]

Yeah, I know, those are nothing but a smoke-screen for those that don't know any better. E.G.White is the final say of the SDA church. To deny her is to deny the movement altogether. Besides, the vast majority of every SDA-Dubiologist I've seen preaches the death to Sunday false gospel.

Again, this is not what we teach, nor is it what we believe.

 

[FEZZILLA]

To those who might be interested, it appears that the person (origen) that FEZILLA is referring to is not even an SDA. So how could this person rightly testify to what we believe?

It is obvious that we are being slandered against by some people in here. This is common practice amongst many though, so we are used to it by now.

Here is the link if you care to take a look at the discourse that went on in the SDA forum concerning origen:

http://www.christianforums.com/t2370192-does-gods-grace-cancel-his-laws.html&page=2

Wrong! Now you just broke the 9th Commandment--a moral law--by wrongfully assuming that I was never a SDA! I was one for most of my life until I witnessed them falsifying and fabricating evidence for their faith in...yes, New Age enlightenment! They are deliberately lying about what sunday keeping Christians believe and why we worship on Sunday.

In just one case, I seen a Pastor on 3ABN say, "The mark of the beast is the mark of the beast...its sunday!"

Anyone can investigate Adventism and see the subtle condemning doctrine that damn the resurrection of Jesus Christ. I am a witness! Do you even know what your SDA-leaders at the top say about salvation concerning Christians that worship on Sunday?

 

[FEZZILLA]

All the early church fathers worshiped on Sunday. The early church fathers personally knew the apostles--especially John--and knew what Christianity taught about the Sabbath. Nobody...would have ever broken the Sabbath law! They knew, like we still know today, that the Lord's Day was the complete finished works of God. Salvation is creation and creation is the Sabbath that we keep for eternity. The Sabbath of Israel was just an earthly promise of the heavenly Sabbath that would come through Christ' finished works.

Do Sunday keepers go to heaven? Will Clement of Rome, a Sunday keeper (Phpp.4:3), go to heaven?
Answer the question without spinning, please.

 

[ThreeAM]

I will try to remember to ask for clarification in future. It would also be helpful if you could be clearer in your posts as well.

I was very clear you just chose to understand my comments the way you wanted to understand them. Evendince of this is the fact that even after I told you I knew what Sola Scripta meant you still questioned my inderstanding. Give it a rest.

 

[FEZZILLA]

SDA's commit false testimony against the early church by teaching that Constantine changed the Sabbath to Sunday. This is a lie! As I said before, the early church fathers were keeping the day loooong before Constantine was born! Could it be that the SDA has made an error or possilby even deliberately lied? The witches agree with the SDA view on church history!

Ellen White was sincere, as I believe, but she was young when she was brainwashed by Miller into his Salvation-Lite doctrine. Maybe SDA's should start drinking Ellen Lite?

 

[FEZZILLA]

I was very clear you just chose to understand my comments the way you wanted to understand them. Evendince of this is the fact that even after I told you I knew what Sola Scripta meant you still questioned my inderstanding. Give it a rest.

Listen, and don't assume; I believe that the Holy Bible is the only authority that is Infallable. Anyone who disagrees with scripture doesn't have a problem with me or other Christians, they have a problem with God.
I mine the scriptures like we should everyday and do not compromise scripture with worldly philosophers. I only mention the church fathers because they were witness to the acts of the Apostles.

 

[ThreeAM]

I mean, Ellen White says that 'only' Sabbath keepers are saved. Sorry for the poorly worded post.

SDA's believe that 2000-years of Sunday keeping Christians are eternally dead. They also believe that the soul is nothing more than oxygen and electricity. They disagree with Ecc.12:7

False

As was previously said If you were a SDA you were an extremly poorly informed SDA.

Pretty sad :o

 

[ThreeAM]

Listen, and don't assume; I believe that the Holy Bible is the only authority that is Infallable. Anyone who disagrees with scripture doesn't have a problem with me or other Christians, they have a problem with God.
I mine the scriptures like we should everyday and do not compromise scripture with worldly philosophers. I only mention the church fathers because they were witness to the acts of the Apostles.

You are the one who is assuming I was making comments to you.

I was not addressing you check my post again. I was addressing comments made by TheDag.

 

[FEZZILLA]

False

As was previously said If you were a SDA you were an extremly poorly informed SDA.

Pretty sad :o

A fromer friend of mine, who I knew for many years, tried to prove Adventism so he could justify the "Mark of the Beast" doctrine. He talked to the top Authorities--as I have also studied from them--and they told him what they truly are. In his quest to prove that the doctrines of Adventism are 100% Biblical he--well, he eventually became a spiritual Atheist (a NEW AGER). He had to deny all scripture to maintain his hatred towards Sunday, which the SDA church always taught us..though now tries to deny it.
I also noticed that all the SDA's churches in my region never convert non-believers. Why is this?

Don't get me wrong. I know that many church going SDA's are true believers in Christ. But those at the top or even the pastors of some of those churches, are the ones teaches against Christianity by teaching that Sunday keeping Christians are worshiping the sun-god of Babylon--when indeed they know nothing about what the Babylonians believed. The sun-god of the ancient world as not affected Christianity. It has, however, been the framework for evolution theory.

 

[FEZZILLA]

You are the one who is assuming I was making comments to you.

I was not addressing you check my post again. I was addressing comments made by TheDag.

Once again: Can we Sunday keepers continue to keep sunday has the Lord's Day and still go to heaven?

 

[ThreeAM]

A fromer friend of mine, who I knew for many years, tried to prove Adventism so he could justify the "Mark of the Beast" doctrine. He talked to the top Authorities--as I have also studied from them--and they told him what they truly are. In his quest to prove that the doctrines of Adventism are 100% Biblical he--well, he eventually became a spiritual Atheist (a NEW AGER). He had to deny all scripture to maintain his hatred towards Sunday, which the SDA church always taught us..though now tries to deny it.
I also noticed that all the SDA's churches in my region never convert non-believers. Why is this?

Don't get me wrong. I know that many church going SDA's are true believers in Christ. But those at the top or even the pastors of some of those churches, are the ones teaches against Christianity by teaching that Sunday keeping Christians are worshiping the sun-god of Babylon--when indeed they know nothing about what the Babylonians believed. The sun-god of the ancient world as not affected Christianity. It has, however, been the framework for evolution theory.

Strange just very strange. And just what are the names of these "Top Authorities" that you and your friend were taught by. And just what did they say "they truly are"

 

[tulc]

Can we Sunday keepers continue to keep sunday has the Lord's Day and still go to heaven?

That does seem like a good question.
tulc( )

 

[ThreeAM]

Once again: Can we Sunday keepers continue to keep sunday has the Lord's Day and still go to heaven?

If a Sunday keeper truely feels he is doing God's will by observing Sunday then he should be fine . There will be more Sunday keepers in heaven than Sabbath keepers IMHO.

 

[tulc]

If a Sunday keeper truely feels he is doing God's will by observing Sunday then he are find. Their will be more Sunday keepers in heaven than Sabbath keepers IMHO.

Sounds good to me!
tulc(finishing the last cup of coffee for the night)

 

[ThreeAM]

That does seem like a good question.
tulc( )

Just curious in your opinion can Sabbath Keepers keeep the 7th day Sabbath as the Lord's day and still go to heaven?