What commandments is Jesus talking about?

[ace of hearts]

Hillel was a pagan?

Do you have evidence Hillel was a Christian? Non Christians are regarded as pagan these days.

 

[ace of hearts]

Most of those are gentile communities...we were talking about Jews IN Israel

Hmmmm! I don't think so.

 

[ace of hearts]

The olive tree which refers to Israel. Christians are considered children of Abraham who is the father of the Israelites although some might argue that Jacob was the father of the Israelites but the promise was made to Abraham.

Yes but the Root of Rom 11 is Jesus, not Israel. A Jew must also be graft into the Root. A contemporary olive tree of today isn't what it was in the day of Jesus. Google olive tree pictures. I found it amazing.

 

[ace of hearts]

No. We were talking about the geographical reach of the NT texts.

That's my recollection as well.

 

[ace of hearts]

You are not even discussing the topic. Period.

Yeah his discussion seems to be lacking.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Hillel fell down, thus should not be trusted: (if this quick found quote online is true: "Hillel favored divorce for any reason. Yeshua's clarifications of interpretations of Torah often paralleled Hillel's "liberal" approach, except for divorce." )

Note it is "men's" saying Yeshua paralleled Hillel, which is most certainly an error,
and ought not to be accepted, ever.

Why. Yeshua knew Torah as did Hillel. It would not be surprising that some of their teachings would be similar. Hillel was more liberal while Shammai more conservative.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

No. We were talking about the geographical reach of the NT texts.

Then you need to e-read the thread

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Do you have evidence Hillel was a Christian? Non Christians are regarded as pagan these days.

LOL...He was a Jewish sage in the very early 1st century

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Yes but the Root of Rom 11 is Jesus, not Israel. A Jew must also be graft into the Root. A contemporary olive tree of today isn't what it was in the day of Jesus. Google olive tree pictures. I found it amazing.

If you read and understand Romans 11 you would know you are wrong.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

You are not even discussing the topic. Period.

Well yeah I was, but you were not even in the context of the discussion...whatever

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Then you have a problem.

No problem at all...the problem is YOURS

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Then the law has no purpose.

Half the things you write make no sense...it is like asking someone..."so how was the weather on the moon when you visited"...

 

[BABerean2]

Why. Yeshua knew Torah as did Hillel. It would not be surprising that some of their teachings would be similar. Hillel was more liberal while Shammai more conservative.

Jesus in the Talmud by Dr. Peter Schafer

https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Talmud-Peter-Schäfer/dp/0691143188

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[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Jesus in the Talmud by Dr. Peter Schafer

https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Talmud-Peter-Schäfer/dp/0691143188

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Anyone can write a book. Yeshua was a very common name then. Some of this stuff is similar to the whole "Jews use Christian blood to make matzah for passover" stories. I have researched all of this, thanks.

 

[BABerean2]

Anyone can write a book.

Dr. Peter Schafer is not just anyone.

He is an Orthodox Jewish scholar, who told the truth regarding what the Talmud says about Christ.

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[BNR32FAN]

News to me. Why does it matter?

You asked me for scriptural proof that they must do this and I’m simply saying I’m not aware of any such commandment.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Yes but the Root of Rom 11 is Jesus, not Israel. A Jew must also be graft into the Root. A contemporary olive tree of today isn't what it was in the day of Jesus. Google olive tree pictures. I found it amazing.

That’s a close analogy or Jesus could be the trunk and Israel is the branches. Just as in John 15 Jesus is the vine and we are the branches. I think either way sends the same message that our essence stems from Jesus.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Dr. Peter Schafer is not just anyone.

He is an Orthodox Jewish scholar, who told the truth regarding what the Talmud says about Christ.

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There are many other Jewish sources that say otherwise...

 

[BABerean2]

There are many other Jewish sources that say otherwise...

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[Saint Steven]

Then you need to e-read the thread

Here's what you said:
"LOL, literally the entire NT transpires within Israel and the Jewish people...to say otherwise just makes you look ignorant"

To which I replied:
"I guess you have some serious issues with geography too.
Check a map for these locations:
Rome, Corinth, Ephesus, Galatia, Philippi, Colossi... "