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I might start including 1 JN 3:24 when I quote verse 23
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I might start including 1 JN 3:24 when I quote verse 23John 15:10
(CJB) If you keep my commands, you will stay in my love -- just as I have kept my Father's commands and stay in his love.
(ESV) If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father's commandments and abide in his love.
(Geneva) If ye shall keepe my commandements, ye shall abide in my loue, as I haue kept my Fathers commandements, and abide in his loue.
(Greek NT TR) εαν τας εντολας μου τηρησητε μενειτε εν τη αγαπη μου καθως εγω τας εντολας του πατρος μου τετηρηκα και μενω αυτου εν τη αγαπη
(GW) If you obey my commandments, you will live in my love. I have obeyed my Father's commandments, and in that way I live in his love.
(LITV-TSP) If you keep My commandments you will continue in My love, as I have kept My Father's commandments and continue in His love.
(KJV) If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
(KJV+) IfG1437 ye keepG5083 myG3450 commandments,G1785 ye shall abideG3306 inG1722 myG3450 love;G26 even asG2531 IG1473 have keptG5083 myG3450 Father'sG3962 commandments,G1785 andG2532 abideG3306 inG1722 hisG846 love.G26
(NKJV) If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love.
(YLT) if my commandments ye may keep, ye shall remain in my love, according as I the commands of my Father have kept, and do remain in His love;
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2Co 3:6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
2Co 3:7 But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away,
2Co 3:8 how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious?
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1Jn 3:23 And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment.
1Jn 3:24 Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.
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The new covenant includes gentiles. Read this command of Jesus -You speak as if the new covenant isn’t with Israel - Jeremiah 31:31-33
The new covenant is not with Gentiles
You can’t take part of something that is for a specific group of people if you are not somehow part of that group.
For example, you can’t be a citizen of Germany and inherit/claim and take part of things that are for citizens of India.
No more than your refusal to accept the consequences of sin.Sin separates us, and we still sin. Yes Yeshua covers our sin, but we must repent and go and sin no more...or at least try, otherwise you are preaching in essence that grace is a license to sin...
You don't understand. 1 JN 5:18You can and you do sin...you need to add a big caveat to that statement...otherwise it seems like you are saying you are sinless...(I know what you are going to say and yes I understand, but others may not)
It was a yes or no answer...
If one knows it is impossible, why attempt what you know is not attainable. Isn't that self abuse? For what purpose? To attain a righteousness of filthy rags?
You don't understand. 1 JN 5:18
Joh 15:10 If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love.
If the two sets of commandments above are different the answer is... No.
If the two sets of commandments above are exactly the same the answer is... Yes.
I will let the unbiased witnesses here find the truth plainly written in God's Word.
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No. You can refuse to accept the new covenant, but you can't break it. The new covenant is unilateral. The previous covenant is by-lateral allowing you to break it.
You're trying to get me to say something that isn't true for the purpose of beratement. The law didn't invent sin.
No more than your refusal to accept the consequences of sin.
Christianity isn't based on the law or even the OT.
I'm glad to see you've changed your mind about your previous quotes (above).Christianity isn't based on the OT. Christianity is based on a better covenant - Heb 8:6.
NOW you seem to be catching on. That "all the Law" [which was the Torah - the first 5 books of the Old Testament] and the Prophets pointed to Jesus. He fulfilled the Law and all the words of the Prophets (like the prophet, Jeremiah). Well done, Ace.Jeremiah and Jesus disagree with you.
That's not the point that I glean from Dr. Michael Brown's article - no.Do you mean obeying the ten commandments will reflect a holy life?
The original Greek word used was πληρόω (pléroó) which means: to make full, to complete.I want to revisit this post and ask again about what fulfil means. After this is discussed we can then discuss Mat 5:17-18.
Did you know that we can fulfill the law, too?I'm glad to see you've changed your mind about your previous quotes (above).
NOW you seem to be catching on. That "all the Law [which was the Torah - the first 5 books of the Old Testament] and the Prophets pointed to Jesus. He fulfilled the Law and all the words of the Prophets (like the prophet, Jeremiah). Well done, Ace.
Do you mean when we're in union with Christ? As His body?Did you know that we can fulfill the law, too?
What about our other relationships?No one can fail as a Christian because nothing can separate us from the love of God!
Why? Hoping I'd go on your rabbit trail and say something ignorant?
And you'd get the same response.
.....and that's good evidence that I'm not speaking of "keeping the law". I'm referring to "walking in the Spirit" (and have been all through this thread).Keeping the law is never called fruit.
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