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Featured What are the commandments now that we are supposed to keep...?

Discussion in 'Controversial Christian Theology' started by Neogaia777, Jan 9, 2019.

  1. LoveGodsWord

    LoveGodsWord Well-Known Member

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    None are without SIN because we are ALL SINNERS in need of a Saviour. JESUS came to save us from our SINS not to CONTINUE in SIN (breaking any one of God's 10 commandments) *JOHN 8:31-36; ROMANS 3:20; ROMANs 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4. If we CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN we will die because we reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23.
     
  2. Pete smith

    Pete smith New Member

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    Kinda strange that God would not want to reveal your sin to you, therefore you can happily go on blissfully sinning in ignorance until God decides to step in and reveal your sin to you. Not sure why God would want that in your life
     
  3. Pete smith

    Pete smith New Member

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    I sure hope everytime you sin in thought in your mind you repent of it quickly
     
  4. W2L

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    Galatians 5-6, pretty simple. We reap what we sow.
     
  5. LoveGodsWord

    LoveGodsWord Well-Known Member

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    GROWING IN THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD’S WORD

    When we first come to Jesus. It is based on faith alone and also on all the knowledge that God has revealed to us at any given point of our conversion. After we come to Jesus by faith and recieve his peace and joy we are babes in Christ because we do not know much and at this time we are all held accountable to God for what we know and not what we do not know in the truth of his Word.

    At this time we are to GROW in Christ to have a closer walk with him day by day. This is the provess of Sanctification and as some say is the work of a lifetime growing every day in and learning how to walk in faith in the KNOWLEDGE of God's WORD.

    The Holy Spirit as we continue in God's WORD will help us to have a closer walk with Jesus as we learn of him through his WORD God expects us to change our lives and to live up to all the light he reveals to us through his Word.

    2 PETER 3:17-18 [17]
    [17], You therefore, beloved, seeing you know these things before, beware lest you also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own steadfastness.
    [18], But grow in grace, and in the KNOWLEDGE of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

    2 PETER 1:1-8
    [1], Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Savior Jesus Christ:
    [2], Grace and peace be multiplied to you through the KNOWLEDGE OF GOD, AND OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST,
    [3], According as his divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the KNOWLEDGE of him that has called us to glory and virtue:
    [4], Whereby are given to us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these you might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
    [5], And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue KNOWLEDGE;
    [6], And to KNOWLEDGE temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
    [7], And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
    [8], For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that you shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the KNOWLEDGE of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    now in times of IGNORANCE when we do not know any better as we are babes and children growing in the KNOWLEDGE of God's WORD, God does not hold us accountable to things we do not know and to things he has not revealed to us or has not taught us.

    ACTS 17:30
    [30], And the times of this ignorance God winked at [does not hold us accountable]; BUT NOW [WHEN A KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH HAS COME] commands all men every where to repent.

    When God reveals to us a KNOWLEDGE of the truth, then he expects us to change [REPENT] and to BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD. At this time God has revealed to us a new KNOWLEDGE to help us to have a closer walk with him.

    At EVERY POINT in the Christian life, as we grow in grace and in the KNOWLEDGE of God's WORD, we have a decision to make. Do I NOW BELIEVE AND FOLLOW GOD'S WORD? Or do I not BELIEVE God's WORD and not change our lives?

    If we choose NOT to BELIEVE AND FOLLOW God's WORD or simply BELIEVE but DO NOT FOLLOW God's WORD because we LOVE SIN more then having a closer walk with Jesus until we REPENT and BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD we become "UNBELIEVERS" No unbeliever has part in the KINGDOM of HEAVEN because they have fallen from Grace.

    JAMES 4:17 [17] Therefore to him that KNOWS to do good, and does it not, to him it is sin.

    If we reject God's WORD when Jesus is calling us to GROW in GRACE and in the KNOWLEDGE of his WORD it is the same as rejecting Jesus.

    HEBREWS 10:26-27 [26], For if we sin willfully after that we have received the KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH, there remains no more sacrifice for sins,[27], But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

    It is only as we CONTINUE in God's WORD gainig a KNOWLEDGE to Follow Jesus that we continue to be his disciples.

    JOHN 8:31 [31], Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, IF YOU CONTINUE IN MY WORD, then are you my disciples indeed [this means CONTINUE TO GROW in the KNOWLEDGE of God's WORD, BY BELIEVING AND FOLLOWING God's WORD]; [32], And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

    If we fail to CONTINUE in his WORD BELIEVING AND FOLLOWING God's WORD then at that point we no longer are his Children. Many Christians will be lost come judgment day because when God revlealed more of his WORD to them to help them to have a closer walk with Jesus they choose their SINS over the WORD of God.

    JOHN 3:19 [19] And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

    SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)
    God's 4th commandments is not a Shadow law. It is one of the 10 Commandments that give us a KNOWLEDGE of sin. If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

    Hope this helps.
     
  6. Pete smith

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    So if you still break the ten commandments in thought in your mind, is this because you have not yet matured in the faith? Is that why you are guilty of breaking the whole law(James2:10)
     
  7. Pete smith

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    Paul gave an example of why he had to die to the law. The example he gave was not: Thou shalt not commit adultery, or thou shalt not steal, or thou shalt not murder, or you shall not bear false witness. The example he gave was thou shalt not covet. And he went on to explain it was all about breaking the law no one but God need know you break, the law relating to the inner man. So unless you faultlessly obey that law, according to Paul, you are breaking the TC, and, according to James 2:10 you are therefore guilty of transgressing the entire law
     
  8. Yarddog

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    No. We need God's Holy Spirit to guide us to love. When we love, we have obeyed God.
     
  9. Tone

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    Matthew 5:19

    "Everyone therefore who violates one of these small commandments and will teach thus to the children of men will be called small in the Kingdom of Heaven, but everyone who will do and will teach the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven."

    So which commands is He speaking of here?
     
  10. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    One often missed commandment, with curse:

    I, Yahweh Curse, Whoever trusts in the flesh, whoever trusts man.
     
  11. Neogaia777

    Neogaia777 Apprentice Supporter

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    Nobody is teaching anyone to violate any laws or commands, or telling them to do the same here... Were just saying that other scriptures says that we all do, and will probably, or will continue to probably, and because that also coincides with "truth" also...

    And were looking for the source of the (if any) true hope from any of you people or that you have and or can truly offer...?

    Could you maybe tell us what that is...?

    God Bless!
     
  12. Tone

    Tone Star Fish Radiant Supporter

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    ...huh...

    I used to hate Yah's commands and now I love them...I don't got to do none of em...I get to, because I have a heart of flesh...HalleliYah!
     
  13. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    "Follow Jesus"

    "You must be born again"

    with "circumcised heart; made not with human hands"

    "Whoever Trusts (with reliance on Him to obey Him) the son has life;
    whoever trusts not , has not life"
     
  14. Neogaia777

    Neogaia777 Apprentice Supporter

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    You must have a much a higher and greater trust for God over or rather than man (or the flesh) (and you can err in the flesh and not be trusting in it also) but not trusting man or any man more so (or having more love or affection for man or flesh or anything of this world not spirit) Anyway, Not to be trusting man (or the flesh or the carnal) (animalistic being called humanistic, ect) man more than or over God basically, or the things of this world (more broadly) than God, or be putting more faith in them than do you God, ect...

    Cause we have to give "measures of trust" to certain people, but not to be trusting or putting your faith in man or the things of man (flesh) (this world) over or before God (Spirit) (Heavenly Kingdom) ever...

    Now we should trust some others with certain things, but we have to know what those things are and should be and where either you or they should draw the line or lines, ect...

    It should not be like the way you should trust God...

    God Bless!
     
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  15. Neogaia777

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    I would say for me, because I have or am being born of the Spirit, but "heart of flesh"... OK...? What do you mean...?

    I mean I know the scripture, "heart of flesh", but, do you maybe mean one that still feels, or has had their feelings renewed, but now obeys out of and because of those feelings, ect...? Or something...?

    God Bless!
     
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  16. Neogaia777

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    How does that work into the commands or commandments...?

    God Bless!
     
  17. Tone

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    His Word fulfilled in me:

    "I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws."
    Ezekiel 36:26-27

    I emphasized to show what it looks like when one is "born of the spirit" as you say.
     
  18. Neogaia777

    Neogaia777 Apprentice Supporter

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    What Laws or decrees though...? And, "how" will we keep them...? And "moving" someone is a "process" sometimes, right...? A journey maybe...?

    God Bless!
     
  19. Tone

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    That's what I asked:

    And yeah, it is a process.
     
  20. Neogaia777

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    Sorry, for some reason I missed that...

    Wait, Was that a rhetorical or genuine question on you part...?

    God Bless!
     
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