Originally posted by parousia70
If the New H/E is not "Christ's" Kingdom, Who's Kingdom is it?I was referring to Christ' 1000 year reign,known as the millenial reign, which is totally different from the new heaven and new earth. It appears that you have twisted all my words. Maybe not on purpose, but you interpret my writings the same way you interpret the bible.
Not according to Jesus:
Luke 17:20-21
"20 Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, "The kingdom of God DOES NOT come with observation; 21 nor will they say, 'See here!' or 'See there!' You wouldn't have had to type this if you understood what I was saying.
THUNDER, thanks to Jesus, That day is here!
First of all, This world is not under the power of the "price of darkness" for he is powerless. This world is under the power of Jesus Christ. Satan does NOT rule the earth today, Jesus Christ does. I think I mentioned to you once already about how dangerous I felt that claim of yours was. I urge you once again to back away from it. Satan has absolutely no power today to keep ANYONE from salvation.
His head has been crushed. He is a defeated foe.John 16;10-16 says he is condemned, not chained up and thrown into the abyss.Yeah-greater is He who is in us than he who is in the world (satan). If you have seen the kingdom of God, then why are you still in your sinful body, that must not enter into heaven?? Why have over a million christians been martyred in Sudan, and other parts of the world if Christ' Kingdom is already here?? And why is Christ not ruling in Jerusalem??
Satan was bound/judged/cast out by Christ's ministry, reversing satan's dominion over the People of God, granting power over all darkness to the saints, and immediately enabling the gospel to spread to all nations.
(John 12:31 and Matt 12:28-29, Heb 2:14-15 and 1 John 3:8).He was judged before he was thrown out of heaven, but show me where he was bound, and cast out of the earth.He is condemned already sure, but he is still roaming around like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour, which is the lost. Who do you think is causing the saints to be persecuted?? Not God. Where is your reward that Jesus promised to bring when He comes, or came from your point of view?? If you are part of His kingdom, then where is your crown of life??
Jesus Christ is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords yesterday, today, and evermore. ALL power and dominion are His. There is nothing that is not already under his rule.
This world is still run by corrupt men, most of which are being led astray by the evil forces in the heavenly relms (air) - don't mistake this for Gods heaven now. There are three heavens.
Matthew 28:18
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, ALL POWER is given unto me in heaven AND IN EARTH. I can agree here, satan can only do what the Lord will allow. Remember when satan wanted to sift Peter like wheat??
Revelation 1:5
...Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, AND THE PRINCE OF THE KINGS OF THE EARTH. Yes, and a Prince has to wait for his time to come. He is declared King of Kings and Lord of Lords only when He is seen coming from heaven. The angels told the men that watched Him ascend to heaven, that He would return in the same way. He would be seen, and the bible says that every eye will see Him coming in power and great glory.
Secondly, we, Christs Body, already rule and reign with Christ right now!!! It's a done deal. We are priests and Kings of a Kingdom that can never be conqured, ruling and reigning with our Lord for evermore. Maybe you saw your king, but I'm still waiting on mine. I am living by faith, which is believing in something unseen. I have hope in the promise that he would come and receive us unto Himself, like He said He would. I am one of the children of the promise.
Great!! Perhaps as part of that talk, you could explain to me your understanding of the "heavens and earth" God created "after" he parted the sea and brought the hebrew people out of Egypt into the wilderness. (Isaiah 51:16)
Did he destroy the H/E that existed before they left Egypt, in order to create the one he created "after" they left Egypt? I am not your teacher. But I see you have also misunderstood this as well, Par for the course I guess.
I remember asking you once before, but I haven't yet had the priveledge to learn your answer. I so look forward to it! I didn't reply, because you make no sense, and I thought I would spare you the embarrassment.
I can see that you got very defensive and then offensive. If I angered you, I'm sorry, but I don't like it when you twist what I am saying. I don't have any ill feelings towards you. I forgive you and hope you forgive me, but I just can't see this going anywhere good. I don't have time to spell every thing out for you. I tried my best to explain to you what I thought, but it seems you are getting defensive again, and twisting my words really doesn't help. We should agree to disagree, and leave it at that. No hard feelings brother, See ya !!
YBIC,
P70