Originally posted by rollinTHUNDER
Isaiah 65:20 - Never again will there be in it an infant who lives but a few days, or an old man who does not live out his years; he who dies at a hundred will be thought a mere youth; he who fails to reach a hundred will be considered accursed." Well parousia, I guess that you are saying that we must all be accursed then right?? Because almost no one reaches a hundred. Listen brother, when the Kingdom does come, men will live to be as old as the trees, just like they did in Adams day. Most of them were over 900 years old, and that is the way it will be again. We serve a Mighty, Powerful God. Satan will not have his way then, he will have chains instead, and be cast into the lake of fire......
I'm sorry parousia,
But I can not let you avoid this one. I can't wait to see you try to explain this one. I got the scripture right from where you were pulled it up yourself, on this thread. Good luck friend, See ya! ! !
THUNDER, Adam lived to be 900
after the fall!!
are you saying your future Kingdom will be like it was in Adams day
after the fall????
As to your "I'm not gonna let you get away with this" comment, OK, I'll bite, even though I have done nothing but let everyone else "get away" with ignoring my questions, I'll go ahead and continue to provide sober reason to all who call me to account in an effort to set an example that I can only hope and pray will be followed in kind.
Many things are said in that verse. First, there are still
sinners in the NH/NE time, you noticed? Therefore, if you
believe that there will be no sin, no evil in the NH/NE,
it is not scriptural. Second, there is still
physical death for it is clearly said that "the child
shall die". That could not be clearer. And once again,
to deny it is not scriptural. What is an
infant and what is an old man? It is not a matter of
age, since it is said that an infant can be 100 y.o.,
and same thing about the "sinner". If you consider
the 100 y.o. child as a baby, then the sinner of 100
y.o. is also a baby. Now what is a child
according to God? In Matthew 18, Jesus compares children
with the heirs of the kingdom. He says that we have to
be like children to enter His kingdom. Now what is
an "old man" according to God? "knowing this, that
our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of
sin might be done away with, that we should no longer
be slaves of sin." (Romans 6:6). Old
man=sinner. There is a rythm in Isaiah 65:20. A parallel is made.
1-3, 2-4. : "No more shall an infant from there
live but a few days. For the child shall die one
hundred years old." "Nor an old man who has not
fulfilled his days. But the sinner being one hundred years
old shall be accursed." The one justified by
Christ is considered as a child even when he dies at 100
y.o.. He has eternal life, so 100 y.o. is nothing. He
won't live "but a few days" because when he dies, he
has eternity ahead of him. But the sinner who
is 100 y.o. has already fulfilled his days. He is
accursed for eternal life is not for him. At 100 y.o., the
just is considered as a child; the sinner as an old
man. Just like we see in Romans 6:6. Also
consider Psalm 103:5 "So that your youth is renewed like
the eagle's." Do you think what is meant here is
really to become physically younger? No, of course. Just
like being born again is not to go back in your
mother's womb. And when you are born again, what are you?
Bingo! An infant. An infant who has eternal life, an
infant who won't live but a few days. But if you are not
born again, you are an old man and you are accursed;
cut from eternal life.
The explanation of "child" and "old man" is totally
scriptural, as I showed. And if not, you still have to
explain why one would be called child at 100 y.o.(poor
moms... raising a child would be a verrrrrry long task!)
and if at 100 y.o. one is still considered as a
child, why would he be called a sinner and be accursed
at such a young age?
I don't see any problem with a
born again (spiritually alive) who dies at 100 y.o.
(physical death). To die at a certain age is a proof of
physical death, and he is called a child, the same word
used by Christ to describe His disciples, God's
children. When you are born again, you are spiritually a
child, but you will physically die one day and at a
certain age. What is the problem with that? No
contradiction here.
YBIC,
P70