We’ve been reading Charles Darwin all wrong

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

What view?

That you're unknowingly perpetuating a lie?

That's basic doctrine.

IOW, unsubstantiated belief.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Genesis 1:26
And God said: 'Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air...etc
[And over apes, chimps, monkeys]

So you're just going to insert phrases into your "sacred text"?

Which are chimps and monkeys? Fish or fowl?

Your posts seem to keep insinuating that other posters are lying. If you want to challenge there statement, you need to provide more information.

 

[Hans Blaster]

That you're unknowingly perpetuating a lie?

That's basic doctrine.

Doctrine is not an argument. It's an assertion (generally along with the insistence that it can not be challenged). I find doctrine to be intellectually dead and unhelpful to understanding.

 

[TLK Valentine]

That's a privilege reserved for Jesus when He comes back.

Until then, those lies are going to wax stronger, culminating in the Tribulation period.

Suppose Jesus tells you it wasn't a lie after all?

Will creationism be the rock upon which you deny Jesus?
.

 

[AV1611VET]

Without argument or evidence, your claim is just another unsupported assertion.

Including the claim that Jesus walked on water?

 

[ottawak]

That teaching is a lie

So, the statement that "a lie is an intentional falsehood" is a lie? You're beginning to not make sense.

 

[AV1611VET]

Doctrine is not an argument.

Good.

I didn't want to argue about it anyway.

 

[AV1611VET]

Suppose Jesus tells you it wasn't a lie after all?

Then it wasn't a lie.

Will creationism be the rock upon which you deny Jesus?

No.

 

[AV1611VET]

IOW, unsubstantiated belief.

The key word here is "belief."

 

[TLK Valentine]

Then it wasn't a lie.No.

Great. Because I suspect that Jesus would probably say something along the lines of how he is here to redeem all life, so whether you're cataloged as a great ape or something else is irrelevant... and why you choose to get hung up on it is a mystery even to Him.

 

[AV1611VET]

Great. Because I suspect that Jesus would probably say something along the lines of how he is here to redeem all life, so whether you're cataloged as a great ape or something else is irrelevant... and why you choose to get hung up on it is a mystery even to Him.

In your supposition though ... right?

 

[Mr Laurier]

I steer clear of saying others aren't Christians, especially if they claim to be.

It only breeds contempt.

After all, in the academic world, Hitler was a Christian simply because he wore Gott Mit Uns on his belt buckle; yet they fight tooth-and-nail that Darwin didn't make a deathbed confession, because his children, from his first cousin, claimed he didn't.

Go figure.

Given that Hitler is not known to have worn belts after his discharge from the army.... He seems to have preferred suspenders.
His status as a christian has ziltch to do with anything he wore... and EVERYTHING to do with his own self proclaimed christian beliefs.

And Darwin never committed a crime for which to confess. So there goes the other side of your false claim.

 

[Mr Laurier]

Until we act like one,* then "primates" wonder what triggered us.

* Klebold and Harris

We act like primates every day.*
Every time we nurture the offspring of a sibling, cousin, or in-law... we are acting like primates.
Every time we share food with a sexual partner... we are acting like primates.

*Bundy

 

[Shemjaza]

Those facts are deception then.

The facts are demonstrable facts.

The conclusion is a logical consequence of them... where is the deception?

Our common ancestors are Adam and eve

That isn't supported by evidence.

There is too much genetic diversity among humanity to be accounted by 6 to 10 thousand years of inbreeding from a single couple... and it's even worse if you take the Flood narrative literally.

Given the assumption of miracles the scientific conclusions can all be wrong, but I think the evidence clearly indicates they are reasonable so not deceptions.

 

[Psalm 27]

So you're just going to insert phrases into your "sacred text"?

Which are chimps and monkeys? Fish or fowl?

Your posts seem to keep insinuating that other posters are lying. If you want to challenge there statement, you need to provide more information.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And God said, “We shall make men in Our image, according to Our form, and they shall rule among the fish of the Sea, and among the birds of Heaven, and among cattle, and among all animals of the Earth, and among all creepers that creep on the Earth.”

Here is the full verse in Jesus's language when He (God) walked on the earth.

He was part of the 'Our' in the above verse. in fact, "ALL things were made through Him..." John 1:3

Apes, chimps and monkeys would come under part b of this verse "all animals of the earth". They were not made in The Lord's image. They do not have a spirit. They have a soul and body.
human beings differ, in that, they have a spirit, soul and body.

 

[Psalm 27]

 

[ottawak]

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And God said, “We shall make men in Our image, according to Our form, and they shall rule among the fish of the Sea, and among the birds of Heaven, and among cattle, and among all animals of the Earth, and among all creepers that creep on the Earth.”

Here is the full verse in Jesus's language when He (God) walked on the earth.

He was part of the 'Our' in the above verse. in fact, "ALL things were made through Him..." John 1:3

Apes, chimps and monkeys would come under part b of this verse "all animals of the earth". They were not made in The Lord's image. They do not have a spirit. They have a soul and body.
human beings differ, in that, they have a spirit, soul and body.

True. And the only question relevant to this forum is how the body was made, not whether it has a soul or spirit. But "lie" is a pretty strong term. A lie is not only a falshood, it is false with intention and you haven't told us what the intention is.

 

[Astrid]

True. And the only question relevant to this forum is how the body was made, not whether it has a soul or spirit. But "lie" is a pretty strong term. A lie is not only a falshood, it is false with intention and you haven't told us what the intention is.

" demonstrated intent"

 

[TLK Valentine]

In your supposition though ... right?

Right.

But as someone recently reminded me...

Luke 9:54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?
55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
56a For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.

... Jesus wasn't really the type to look for excuses to turn people away from the gift of salvation he was offering...

...alas, to this day, his followers more than take up the slack.

 

[Mr Laurier]

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And God said, “We shall make men in Our image, according to Our form, and they shall rule among the fish of the Sea, and among the birds of Heaven, and among cattle, and among all animals of the Earth, and among all creepers that creep on the Earth.”

Here is the full verse in Jesus's language when He (God) walked on the earth.

He was part of the 'Our' in the above verse. in fact, "ALL things were made through Him..." John 1:3

Apes, chimps and monkeys would come under part b of this verse "all animals of the earth". They were not made in The Lord's image. They do not have a spirit. They have a soul and body.
human beings differ, in that, they have a spirit, soul and body.

You do realize that you may just as well post from the collected German folktales of the Brothers Grimm.