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That's one way of lookin' at it, for sure.
Me either if all it is, is "nothing more than a certain number of people with a cranial deformation."
And without considering the architecture associated with them, it's even less visible.
Certainly a debatable, unrequired and meaningless distinction:
Hosea 1:7
But I will have mercy upon the house of Judah, and will save them by the Lord their God, and will not save them by bow, nor by sword, nor by battle, by horses, nor by horsemen.
Hebrews 8:8
For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
I am waiting for your other shoe to drop upon the 'Jews.'
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There is no shoe to drop. Just your wish for there to be one.
If you consider the FACT of the split in the tribes to be of no meaning
...it displays your lack of understanding and wish to remain so. It also shows you wish to ignore many, many Scriptures dealing with the two houses.
And thou art delivering it well.What is telling is that I know how to read Scripture. The tribes, all twelve, are Israel. Of those tribes is Judah...Ju-dah, Jew-dah. There is Israel and Israel is the [house of Israel and the house of Judah]. All are Israel but not all are Jews.
There is one lineage and two houses within the lineage...have ye not read?
Truth and understanding is what I hope to deliver.
The fact that the rich man has five brothers is a vital clue to his true symbolic identity.LUKE 16:27 "Then he said, 'I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house,
28 for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.' " (NKJV)
Of course you do! Why in the world would you admit not having the very thing that self-validates your views and interpretations?
And God blesseth Noah, and his sons, and saith to them, 'Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the earth; Genesis 9:1
Strong's Hebrew: 4390. מָלֵא (male or mala) 253 Occurrences
Genesis 1:22
BIB: פְּר֣וּ וּרְב֗וּ וּמִלְא֤וּ אֶת־ הַמַּ֙יִם֙
NAS: and multiply, and fill the waters
KJV: and multiply, and fill the waters
INT: be fruitful and multiply and fill the waters the seas
Genesis 1:28
BIB: פְּר֥וּ וּרְב֛וּ וּמִלְא֥וּ אֶת־ הָאָ֖רֶץ
NAS: and multiply, and fill the earth,
KJV: and multiply, and replenish the earth,
INT: to them be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue
Genesis 6:11
BIB: לִפְנֵ֣י הָֽאֱלֹהִ֑ים וַתִּמָּלֵ֥א הָאָ֖רֶץ חָמָֽס׃
NAS: and the earth was filled with violence.
KJV: and the earth was filled with violence.
INT: the sight of God was filled and the earth violence
Genesis 6:13
BIB: לְפָנַ֔י כִּֽי־ מָלְאָ֥ה הָאָ֛רֶץ חָמָ֖ס
NAS: Me; for the earth is filled with violence
KJV: for the earth is filled with violence
INT: before for is filled the earth violence
Genesis 9:1
BIB: פְּר֥וּ וּרְב֖וּ וּמִלְא֥וּ אֶת־ הָאָֽרֶץ׃
NAS: and multiply, and fill the earth.
KJV: and multiply, and replenish the earth.
INT: to them be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth
Genesis 21:19
BIB: מָ֑יִם וַתֵּ֜לֶךְ וַתְּמַלֵּ֤א אֶת־ הַחֵ֙מֶת֙
NAS: and she went and filled the skin
KJV: and she went, and filled the bottle
INT: of water went and filled the skin water
Genesis 24:16
BIB: וַתֵּ֣רֶד הָעַ֔יְנָה וַתְּמַלֵּ֥א כַדָּ֖הּ וַתָּֽעַל׃
NAS: to the spring and filled her jar
KJV: to the well, and filled her pitcher,
INT: went to the well and filled her jar and came
Genesis 25:24
BIB: וַיִּמְלְא֥וּ יָמֶ֖יהָ לָלֶ֑דֶת
NAS: to be delivered were fulfilled, behold,
KJV: to be delivered were fulfilled, behold, [there were] twins
INT: were fulfilled her days to be delivered
Genesis 26:15
BIB: סִתְּמ֣וּם פְּלִשְׁתִּ֔ים וַיְמַלְא֖וּם עָפָֽר׃
NAS: stopped up by filling them with earth.
KJV: had stopped them, and filled them with earth.
INT: stopped the Philistines filling earth
Genesis 29:21
BIB: אִשְׁתִּ֔י כִּ֥י מָלְא֖וּ יָמָ֑י וְאָב֖וֹאָה
NAS: for my time is completed, that I may go
KJV: for my days are fulfilled, that I may go in
INT: my wife for is completed my time may go
Genesis 29:27
BIB: מַלֵּ֖א שְׁבֻ֣עַ זֹ֑את
NAS: Complete the week of this one,
KJV: Fulfil her week,
INT: Complete the week her
Genesis 29:28
BIB: יַעֲקֹב֙ כֵּ֔ן וַיְמַלֵּ֖א שְׁבֻ֣עַ זֹ֑את
NAS: so and completed her week,
KJV: did so, and fulfilled her week:
INT: Jacob so and completed her week and he
Genesis 42:25
BIB: וַיְצַ֣ו יוֹסֵ֗ף וַיְמַלְא֣וּ אֶת־ כְּלֵיהֶם֮
NAS: gave orders to fill their bags
KJV: commanded to fill their sacks
INT: gave Joseph to fill their bags grain
Genesis 44:1
BIB: בֵּיתוֹ֮ לֵאמֹר֒ מַלֵּ֞א אֶת־ אַמְתְּחֹ֤ת
NAS: steward, saying, Fill the men's sacks
KJV: saying, Fill the men's
INT: his house saying Fill sacks the men's
Genesis 50:3
BIB: וַיִּמְלְאוּ־ לוֹ֙ אַרְבָּעִ֣ים
NAS: days were required for it, for such
KJV: days were fulfilled for him; for so are fulfilled
INT: were required now forty days
Genesis 50:3
BIB: כִּ֛י כֵּ֥ן יִמְלְא֖וּ יְמֵ֣י הַחֲנֻטִ֑ים
NAS: is the period required for embalming.
KJV: were fulfilled for him; for so are fulfilled the days
INT: for such required is the period are embalmed
Exodus 1:7
BIB: בִּמְאֹ֣ד מְאֹ֑ד וַתִּמָּלֵ֥א הָאָ֖רֶץ אֹתָֽם׃
NAS: so that the land was filled with them.
KJV: and the land was filled with them.
INT: exceedingly exceedingly was filled the land for
Exodus 2:16
BIB: וַתָּבֹ֣אנָה וַתִּדְלֶ֗נָה וַתְּמַלֶּ֙אנָה֙ אֶת־ הָ֣רְהָטִ֔ים
NAS: to draw water and filled the troughs
KJV: and drew [water], and filled the troughs
INT: came to draw and filled the troughs to water
Exodus 7:25
BIB: וַיִּמָּלֵ֖א שִׁבְעַ֣ת יָמִ֑ים
NAS: Seven days passed after the LORD
KJV: days were fulfilled, after
INT: passed Seven days
Well, yes, we were all in fact just treated to that fact. So you agree that the term is multifunctional and can apply to not only human males, but also evil and heavenly angels/messengers and also to God in Christ?
Oh, the replenish word. I think the applications of MALE understandings in the HEBREW are interesting and do not always mean what they mean in our languages. Fill is an accurate term. Fill may ALSO contain spiritual connotations. Not all 'filling' automatically means physical reproduction of the human species.
We should all certainly question ourselves on every matter. The Word is very interesting in that way. I might even add that those who do not learn to read the spiritual ends of the scales and only see hard line literal external meanings are very EASILY led down numerous dead end trails, even on purpose, even by THE HOLY SPIRIT.
I generally agree with that premise. From there it's a question of methods applied, which hopefully you'll get around to at some point?
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No it does not , why do you all have such a hard time understanding Gods Word and the simplicity it was written in , even though the bible was written in Hebrew and the translation of Genesis is lacking somewhat , the difference between the sixth day man, ADAM , which means man and the eigth day Adam is obvious .
The sixth day man who is called Adam is different from the Adam of Genesis 2:5 , if you read what God is saying to you it is very clear , God had not made a man to til the ground , a husbandman . God calls this Adam the father of all the living because Jesus would and did come from his bloodline and unless you're in Jesus, you are not living but spiritually dead . God is not the respect or of man in the flesh because we where originally spirit and the fall of Satan resulted in the flesh age.
The bottom line is unless you learn to pray in the spirit you will never understand spiritual things and looking at Gods word in the flesh, you will NEVER UNDERSTAND IT . God is not the author of confusion and science has already proven that mankind did not arise from two people , it is impossible for all the races to come from two people and that is confusion and not of God but Satan and his lies confusing you on e truth of God and His Word .
Where do you think Cain got his wife from when God cast him out of Eden ? Cain went to the land of Nod and met a sixth day creation and married her . If one does not understand the beginning how can one understand the end ?
You use the term "we're" improperly. I only addressed you.
As I said many times in this thread....ALL RACES were created by the sixth day...and it was very good.
YeShallTread said:You have opened a very interesting topic...and a very deep subject. It is, I believe, something all children of God should understand but one so few are willing to search. As you do don't allow detractors to throw "racist" in your face for it isn't true...it is their security blanket, a blanket that covers their eyes allowing them to remain in a perpetual state of blindness.
The historical facts aren't to be seen symbolically.
Was there a direct line from Adam to Jesus Christ?
Was that found within Israel? Sounds to me like the ruddy line of Adam led to the ruddy line of David who is the flesh ancestor of Jesus Christ. Genetics, DNA? I think so....but then...I have eyes to see.
I'm giving you facts, which was what you mentioned several posts ago. So far....I have been right and yet no acknowledgment of your errors. The choice that is escaping you is that you choose to ignore Scripture dealing with the two houses. Instead, considering it meaningless and of no importance.
It is evident you do not believe that God destroyed an earth in Genesis 1:2 from a complete dearth of Genesis 1:1 and will seek algorical interpretations to explain clear and concise scripture telling us this .
I already gave you one scripture John 3:13 so how about the Psalm of Moses , psalm 90:1-3 .
Since God is not the author of confusion
and any mistakes are mans bad interpretation how would you explain Isaiah 45:18 where God said He did not create the world in vain , He formed it to be inhabited .
The word vain is the same word used in Genesis 1:2 where the earth was without form and void ( without form is the same word as vain ). That would be a contradiction and God does not contradict Himself.
There is NOTHING openly evident about the destruction of anything in the stretch between Gen 1:1 & 1:2.
If that is your claim then it's purely SPECULATIVE. Not that I'm against speculation in general, but there is certainly no hardline obvious destruction of a prior earth, no.
What is it you think you are proving by citing John 3:13?
As to Psalm 90:1-3, again, what exactly is it you are trying to get it to say?
That there was a prior earth, prior people? Get to it.
Again, who are you kidding? I know the scripture that says that. But there is also PLENTY of scripture showing that God DOES CONFUSE. So unless you have a good way to sort through those surface conflicts, citing 'God is not the Author of confusion' to justify your as yet largely undefined postulations are somewhat meaningless.
Which means WHAT? The earth is obviously INHABITED.
I'm getting the distinct feeling that both you and your copart are parroting some other guy who has presumably a much better delivery system on what it is he/she is trying to say because neither of you seem to be able to put your finger on just what it is you think you're trying to prove.
So what? The world is inhabited. That scripture doesn't change anything or mean that it wasn't inhabited then when it was written as it obviously WAS then too.
shakes head. patience dwindles
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Ask yourself this and then I am done wasting pearls on you ,
how is that God knew Jerimiah before he was born and hated Esau also before he was born ?
Like I said before you have been indoctrinated by the churches of man which for the most part are controlled by Satan . The traditions of man make Gods word void
. Oh and by the way there are , only a couple of places where God sends people strong delusion to believe a lie , God wishes only for all his children to be saved . I also have no copart as you state , I came to this site looking for fellow Christians to teach and be taught and for the most part I find modern day Pharasee and Saducee. One final piece of advice , judgement begins at the pulpit and this is your pulpit so make sure you have your facts straight . For many will stand in front of Jesus professing all they have done for him and Jesus will reply go away I never knew you .
And the circle continues: "I merely repeat what Scripture plainly says."
That was a broad brush remark and had no particular individual in mind...just the group that like to derail a topic they KNOW NOTHING ABOUT and ARE NOT WILLING TO LEARN ABOUT. If you wish to include yourself there...okay.BOG - Actually, I used the term properly. You see, unlike you, I can actually recall what you've said. From your first post on this thread:YST - You use the term "we're" improperly. I only addressed you.
Originally Posted by YeShallTreadYou have opened a very interesting topic...and a very deep subject. It is, I believe, something all children of God should understand but one so few are willing to search. As you do don't allow detractors to throw "racist" in your face for it isn't true...it is their security blanket, a blanket that covers their eyes allowing them to remain in a perpetual state of blindness.
You have been unable to refute anything. You can't as it is true. What you bear is your inability to admit error. The "nonsense" your eyes see may be because you are a natural man? [1 Corinthians 2:14]Yeah, recalling nonsense and then refuting it with scripture is an affliction which I must bear...
LOL. I know you haven't recognized truths so must wonder what you consider unbiblical.Anyhow, although I've only read about 3 posts on this thread tonight, I've already had my fill of unbiblical error.
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