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Was Jesus the only person who never sinned?

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I think he's talking about a physical person, as in flesh and blood. Jesus was the only human being who was able to be perfect, since He was also God.
It was wordplay since no one other than God hasn't sinned.

And the trinity does consist of three persons.
 
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They don't count because all sins are through Adam.
That's another theological question as to whether one person of the trinity or other counts or not. Math, such a thing right?
 
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Whether Catholics made it up or not, they could be right. We just don't know because they did not get an assumption about Mary from the Bible, only a Pope.
That's why they're not right. The Bible says nothing about Mary being sinless; the Pope isn't infallible. They're putting the word of man before the Word of God.
 
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When we are born again, (filled with the Spirit of Christ) that means our SIN NATURE has been replaced with a DIVINE NATURE. Somewhere down the line of your life you have been taught that if we commit a sin, it is imputed as sinless.

2 Peter 1:2 Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord, 3 as His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and virtue, 4 by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

I understand that we have spirits (apart from our souls) that are dead and made to live through the entrance of the Holy Spirit when we are born again. Also, that our new spirit cannot sin.

Perhaps I used input incorrectly. But, we in our souls-minds and via our bodies, we do sin after being born again, and so we confess. And so the role of our Advocate, Jesus, continues.

For the discussion, John the Baptist and Enoch sinned, but the sanctification process meant a close walk with God—not habitual sinners. Still flawed humans but empowered ones.

The only doctrine (that I know of and disagree with) that flatly states that a believer cannot sin is that of “Entire Sanctification”—courtesy John Wesley. Not saying you espouse that—just a thought
 
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Brother, how do we know He is inside? What is the evidence?
Dear sister, the evidence is always a changed life!
I.E. changed ideas, opinions, attitudes, priorities, interests, etc.
Absolutely nothing to do with gifts.

Billy Graham (and little ole me) received the Spirit and were changed,
but we didn't know what really had happened for 6 whole months!
 
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Those who have the Spirit of God in them will know at the time (where to go).
Those who have the Spirit of God in them (BACs),
and who are in fellowship with the Lord
(i.e. those who are being faithful and obedient)
will hear the Spirit's directions on when and
where to go to be sheltered and protected.

The unfaithful BACs and the unbelievers will NOT be guided to safety!
(Actually the NT says disobedience = unbelief.)
 
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I know that Jesus was tempted in every way, yet did not sin. From conception He had the seed of the Father. Thus He was born of God.

1 John 3:9
9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

This means those that receive the baptism of the Spirit have the "seed of God" in them. But there are two others I'm curious about.

What about John the Baptist. He received the Holy Spirit while in Elizabeth's womb.

And what about Enoch who walked with God, and He took him.

Were John the Baptist and Enoch considered sinners by God, and did they ever sin while on earth?

No you don't get both the question and this Bible verse.

Jesus , Yah and Holy Spirit never sinned .

This verse is talking when you become born again after being sealed by Holy Spirit Ephesians 1:13-14. God gives you new life a new nature and it's called in Bible "new man" and the sinful old nature is called "old man".

You will never have anything from this live if you live as old man everything you do in flesh will burn in fire , everything you do in spirit as "new man" will be tested by fire and give you rewards .

It is true since you became born of God the 2nd you the spirit is not able to sin and not able to die you will live forever but God didn't kill your flesh and you are prisoner of it either till ressurrection or untill you die and get new body at ressurrection.
 
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Dear sister, the evidence is always a changed life!
I.E. changed ideas, opinions, attitudes, priorities, interests, etc.
Absolutely nothing to do with gifts.

Billy Graham (and little ole me) were changed,
but we didn't know what really had happened for 6 months!

So when do you believe the Mark 16:16-18 manifestations are received for those who believe in Jesus? Those are not the same as the 1 Corinthians 12 gifts for ministry in the second filling. They are just for us individually and are part of every true Christian's armor of God.
 
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So when do you believe the Mark 16:16-18 manifestations are received for those who believe in Jesus? Those are not the same as the 1 Corinthians 12 gifts for ministry in the second filling. They are just for us individually and are part of every true Christian's armor of God.
Sister, this is very interesting! ... I am not sure!
Some of these things are a mystery!

I will say it again ... some very unpopular spiritual truths
are "somewhat hidden" in the NT
... for various reasons!
Perhaps, someone might feel led to start a thread about this!

Mark 16:15-18 ... Is this where you got the idea that ...
the baptism with the Holy Spirit is necessary for salvation (16:16)?
Yes, most of this spiritual power is different than the 1 Cor 12 gifts,
which come from receiving the baptism with the Holy Spirit.
 
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Count me out as someone who believes you cannot sin after being saved. If this was true, why would the Catholics even think about confessing their sins to priests? Why would Christians ask God for forgiveness, even though they know Jesus has already done that? Clearly Scripture says we should continue to repent. If we are told in the Bible to confess our sins after being saved, it is ridiculous to believe we can no longer sin after a certain date.
 
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Jesus was the perfect human. He took the place of Adam who failed. Unfortunately, it did not take much time.

Jesus was the only one sinless. He must've knew many things to be this way. I imagine he knew the laws that he had to fulfill. He knew about Satan's powers. He knew about temptation. What other things did he know?
 
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Church dogma says Our Lord and Our Lady were both sinless.

I will not speculate about anybody else.

Why speculate when it is written in the Bible? Thus, you shouldn't trust dogma.
 
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Why speculate when it is written in the Bible? Thus, you shouldn't trust dogma.
I seek to inform; not to persuade. You can believe whatever you want.

But I stand with the Church's authority.
 
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... it is ridiculous to believe we can no longer sin after a certain date.
Hey, lots of people think and say lots of ridiculous things!
Better get used to it.
 
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I understand that we have spirits (apart from our souls) that are dead and made to live through the entrance of the Holy Spirit when we are born again. Also, that our new spirit cannot sin.

Perhaps I used input incorrectly. But, we in our souls-minds and via our bodies, we do sin after being born again, and so we confess. And so the role of our Advocate, Jesus, continues.

For the discussion, John the Baptist and Enoch sinned, but the sanctification process meant a close walk with God—not habitual sinners. Still flawed humans but empowered ones.

The only doctrine (that I know of and disagree with) that flatly states that a believer cannot sin is that of “Entire Sanctification”—courtesy John Wesley. Not saying you espouse that—just a thought
You must also not believe the "doctrine which is according to Godliness"...(1 Tim 6:3)
Why do you think 1 John 3:9 is...wrong?..."Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."
Can grape vines bear figs?
Why don't you believe 2 Cor 5:17?..."Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new."
Why do you think Romans 6:7 is wrong?..."For he that is dead is freed from sin."
 
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Those who have the Spirit of God in them (BACs),
and who are in fellowship with the Lord
(i.e. those who are being faithful and obedient)
will hear the Spirit's directions on when and
where to go to be sheltered and protected.

The unfaithful BACs and the unbelievers will NOT be guided to safety!
(Actually the NT says disobedience = unbelief.)
"Unfaithful BACs" is an oxymoron.
 
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