Was Jesus the only person who never sinned?

[CharismaticLady]

The problem with your Mark 16 is there is NO mention
of receiving the Spirit inside to be born again ...
NOR of being baptized with the Holy Spirit
(with any of the confirming signs).
Since there is NO mention, you must assume a lot.

Follow the scriptures. And a little common sense.

As for Mark 16 not mentioning the Spirit, how else can you speak in tongues? Just fake it?

John 3:
3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
5 Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Acts 2:
38 Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call.”

Romans 8:
9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.

 

[CharismaticLady]

The problem with your Mark 16 is there is NO mention of:
(1) -- receiving the Spirit inside to be born again ...
OR
(2) -- being baptized with the Holy Spirit
(with any of the several confirming signs).

Since there is NO mention, you must assume a lot.

I need a cup of tea. See you later friend.

 

[RDKirk]

The only doctrine (that I know of and disagree with) that flatly states that a believer cannot sin is that of “Entire Sanctification”—courtesy John Wesley. Not saying you espouse that—just a thought

Wesley abandoned that in his old age when he realized he wasn't getting there.

 

[BCsenior]

There are two manifestations of tongues.
Mark 16:16-18
1 Corinthians 12

And you don't mention the tongues on The Day of Pentecost?
I am stunned at how messed up you are on this ONE topic!
How can anyone with the baptism be SO far off base?
It just goes to show again ...
how radically deceived BACs can be about NT doctrines!

 

[RDKirk]

That conclusion is counter to Romans 6:3-7.
Paul writes of the death of the old man, and our resurrection with Christ to "walk in newness of life".
The results?
Freedom from sin...thanks be to God!

But Paul also wrote:

I don’t mean to say that I have already achieved these things or that I have already reached perfection. But I press on to possess that perfection for which Christ Jesus first possessed me. No, dear brothers and sisters, I have not achieved it, but I focus on this one thing: Forgetting the past and looking forward to what lies ahead, I press on to reach the end of the race and receive the heavenly prize for which God, through Christ Jesus, is calling us. -- Philippians 3

 

[RDKirk]

"It"?
Where in the bible is "original sin" mentioned?
As it is written that no man will bear the sin of another, how can we now suddenly be charged with Adam's sin? (Ezek 18:20, Deut 24:16)

Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned--Romans 5

 

[CharismaticLady]

And you don't mention the tongues on The Day of Pentecost?
I am stunned at how messed up you are on this ONE topic!
How can anyone with the baptism be SO far off base?
It just goes to show again ...
how radically deceived BACs can be about NT doctrines!

I wrote: There are two manifestations of tongues.
Mark 16:16-18
1 Corinthians 12

Mark 16 and 1 Cor. 12 have the two different lists showing the two different types of tongues (personal and corporate). So what if I don't mention the Day of Pentecost in every post. It doesn't contain both types of tongues. Why are you being so vile? I am a born again of the Spirit Christian with multiple gifts from Joel 2, Mark 16, Romans 12, most from 1 Cor. 12, and one from Ephesians 4; what are you? By their fruit shall ye know them. Go back and read your vile post to me, and repent.

In my post #185:


Mark 16:16-18 when you are born again to pray perfect prayer (my words) or praise, even as a choir as the 120 did on the Day of Pentecost. INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE USE TO GOD. Interpretation may happen, but is not necessary as God knows what is being said, and it is TO Him. This tongue is not for the congregation from 1 Cor. 12, instead they were heard PRAISING GOD.

This is the 120 being born again and praising in tongues - the gift of Mark 16:17.


I am perfectly clear on NT doctrines, because Scripture is my foundation, and not denominational jargon that is so ingrained they won't accept correction written in black and white and red. We must walk in the Spirit, and He will bring us into all Truth. I love to teach, but you are making me also want to rebuke you. From now on try to understand what it is that I'm teaching you. It is very clear. Maybe read it twice, because you are coming up with false statements and accusations, and a tone that is of the flesh, not the Spirit.

2 Timothy 4:
I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom: 2 Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching.

And as for Mark 16 not mentioning the Spirit, how else can you speak in tongues? Just fake it? What is the name of your denomination? They sure aren't teaching anything, let alone just having common sense.

 

[thecolorsblend]

46 And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,

47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.

I would support a rule against drive-by scripture posting.

I assume you have a purpose for quoting those two verses. What is it, exactly?

 

[charsan]

why would the Catholics even think about confessing their sins to priests?

If I may I know you were making a point but I just want to add that just not Catholics go to confession but also Anglicans, Lutherans, Orthodox and really most traditional Christians because that was the way it was done until segments of the reformation threw everything out.

 

[Phil W]

John 3:
3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
5 Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Acts 2:
38 Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call.”

Romans 8:
9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.

I understand that one needs to be reborn, but you have yet to show that the Holy Ghost causes it to happen.

 

[Phil W]

But Paul also wrote:

I don’t mean to say that I have already achieved these things or that I have already reached perfection. But I press on to possess that perfection for which Christ Jesus first possessed me. No, dear brothers and sisters, I have not achieved it, but I focus on this one thing: Forgetting the past and looking forward to what lies ahead, I press on to reach the end of the race and receive the heavenly prize for which God, through Christ Jesus, is calling us. -- Philippians 3

Had you read to the end of Phil 3 you would have found what Paul had yet to receive..."Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself." (v21)
You should have also noticed verse 11..."If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead."
The resurrection from the dead is what he hadn't yet "attained".
We can be free from sin before our resurrection, in fact that will be too late to get right with God.

 

[Phil W]

I was thinking the other day that when Jesus said “he who is without sin cast the first stone” at the adulteress why didn’t he cast a stone at her?

(not an entirely serious post)

His days to judge are still in the future.

 

[RDKirk]

People who consider themselves free from sin are people who have a short enough list of "sins" to fit their own comfort levels.

 

[CharismaticLady]

I understand that one needs to be reborn, but you have yet to show that the Holy Ghost causes it to happen.

The Trinity makes it happen.

Romans 8:9
9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Dear sister, the evidence is always a changed life!
I.E. changed ideas, opinions, attitudes, priorities, interests, etc.
Absolutely nothing to do with gifts.

Billy Graham (and little ole me) received the Spirit and were changed,
but we didn't know what really had happened for 6 whole months!

However, Billy Graham believes in Eternal Security (Which is something you and I are strongly against).

Billy Graham said,

"Only God knows if someone has truly and sincerely repented of their sins and given their life to Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, but if they have, they now belong to Him forever, and their salvation is secure. The Bible says that nothing “will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord” (Romans 8:39)."​

Source:
Once a person decides to follow Jesus, can they lose their salvation later on if they commit a major sin?

Billy Graham said that a person does not lose their salvation if they sin,

"When we do sin, God does not reject us or disown us. Our fellowship with Him may be broken, but our relationship is not; we are still members of His family if we have truly committed our lives to Christ."

Source:
I'm a Christian. Will I lose my salvation if I sin?

Billy Graham, Chuck Swindoll, Chuck Smith and Charles Stanley all believe that suicide is not the unpardonable sin. They believe that if someone commits suicide, they are not in their right mind and we have a compassionate Heavenly Father who understands what they were going through.

Source:
Suicide and Heaven — Hope for the Broken-Hearted

 

[Bible Highlighter]

John is telling his "children" how those who are not yet "children", but seeking an advocate, can rely on Christ Jesus for the graceful blessing of His intercession.
As those who commit sin are not God's children we know he isn't writing to sinners.
That is made especially clear in the next two verses...
"And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him." (1 John 2:3-4)
The converted have already used the Advocate.

John says to believers, "Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him." (1 John 3:15).

This means that he is telling the believer that if they hate their brother, they are like a murderer, and no murderer has eternal life abiding in them. It would be redundant to tell a believer something that they would automatically "not do." The Scriptures say we have to continue in the faith, continue in grace, continue in His goodness (otherwise we can be cut off). The Bible says we have to keep ourselves in the love of God.

 

[Phil W]

People who consider themselves free from sin are people who have a short enough list of "sins" to fit their own comfort levels.

Or, it could be that some folk's repentance from sin is true.
Paul wrote..."Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame." (1 Cor 15:34)
Peter wrote..."Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;" (1 Peter 4:1)
John wrote..."We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not." (1 John 5:18)

 

[Phil W]

However, Billy Graham believes in Eternal Security (Which is something you and I are strongly against).

Billy Graham said,

"Only God knows if someone has truly and sincerely repented of their sins and given their life to Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, but if they have, they now belong to Him forever, and their salvation is secure. The Bible says that nothing “will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord” (Romans 8:39)."​

Source:
Once a person decides to follow Jesus, can they lose their salvation later on if they commit a major sin?

Billy Graham said that a person does not lose their salvation if they sin,

"When we do sin, God does not reject us or disown us. Our fellowship with Him may be broken, but our relationship is not; we are still members of His family if we have truly committed our lives to Christ."

I guess Billy G. doesn't think we need to love God in order to get to heaven.
I'm glad the word of God says otherwise.

 

[Phil W]

John says to believers, "Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him." (1 John 3:15).

This means that he is telling the believer that if they hate their brother, they are like a murderer, and no murderer has eternal life abiding in them. It would be redundant to tell a believer something that they would automatically "not do." The Scriptures say we have to continue in the faith, continue in grace, continue in His goodness (otherwise we can be cut off). The Bible says we have to keep ourselves in the love of God.

Is telling someone repeatedly to behave redundant or just further exhortation and admonishment and warning?
Not everyone reading the bible already knows everything, and lest satan gets a foot in the door, we should relish every exhortation the first time and the hundredth.
These kinds of exhortation also make it easier to establish who in our midst is an unbeliever.

BTW, look both ways before driving into an intersection.
Redundant?

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Is telling someone repeatedly to behave redundant or just further exhortation and admonishment and warning?
Not everyone reading the bible already knows everything, and lest satan gets a foot in the door, we should relish every exhortation the first time and the hundredth.
These kinds of exhortation also make it easier to establish who in our midst is an unbeliever.

BTW, look both ways before driving into an intersection.
Redundant?

My point is that 1 John 3:15 is written to believers to warn them not to be hateful. This exhortation in 1 John 3:15 would not make any sense if a believer could never be hateful and they were always loving and they could never fall away from the faith by shipwrecking it.