One (perhaps last) post before "pulling" this thread, which seems to have covered extensively the topic:
DAVID RAY GRIFFIN: ALMOST PERFECT ABOUT 9/11!
AN ANALYSIS BY TvNewsLIES.org
We firmly believe that those people who fully believe the conclusions of the Kean Commission have never seen or heard any of the compelling evidence to the contrary. - These people never permit the complete picture to be painted for them. - They never allow themselves a chance to look at any of the information about 9/11 that has been revealed. They simply do not want to know that it exists.
David Ray Griffin, theologian, author and outspoken 9/11 researcher, recently did what nobody else has been able to do: gain television coverage to expose the very likely complicity by the Bush administration in the attacks of September 11th, 2001.
In his two latest books and during a powerful television presentation, David Griffin put together the most thorough analysis to date of the official Kean commission report on 9/11. It is not with this analysis that we find any fault whatsoever. On the contrary, Griffin’s examination provides a series of powerful and irrefutable arguments for probable and likely government complicity in the attacks.
Neither do we quarrel with the way in which Griffin’s classifies the American public’s view of the disaster. His description is quite accurate and undoubtedly reflects the cross section of public opinion. But we feel that Griffin’s categorization stops short of an even more important division within the country, one that might explain why tens of millions of Americans refuse to even consider the complicity of the Bush Administration in the most horrendous attack on this nation in its history.
In his analysis, Griffin brilliantly classifies public sentiment of the events of September 11th by breaking it down into 4 classifications. In summary, they are as follows:
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Those who believe that Al Qaeda outsmarted the global intelligence community and surprised the US with the attacks and the Bush administration is responding accordingly.
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Those who believe that Al Qaeda outsmarted the global intelligence community and surprised the US with the attacks and the Bush administration is taking political advantage of the situation.
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Those who believe that the Bush administration permitted the attacks to occur in order to take political advantage of the situation
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Those who believe that the Bush administration is complicit in the orchestration of the attacks in order to take political advantage of the situation. (Griffin accurately points out that the EVIDENCE tends to support this position.
While there is no disputing that these distinctions in public opinion exist, we feel there is an even more revealing classification. This belief is based solely on the personal experiences and observations of the editor of TvNewsLIES.org, but remains clearly discernible and consistent. It places the American public in only TWO major groups:
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Those who feel that the Bush administration, at the very least, had the opportunity to stop the attacks, and at the very most, orchestrated them.
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Those who abjectly refuse to objectively examine or listen to evidence that indicates complicity by the Bush administration.
We firmly believe that those people who fully believe the conclusions of the Kean Commission have never seen or heard any of the compelling evidence to the contrary.
The people in Group Two include those people who have “listened†to isolated bits of evidence, only to argue some obscure or irrelevant point without taking into account the complete context in which the evidence exists. These people never permit the complete picture to be painted for them. They refuse to sit quietly long enough to hear an explanation or an answer to a question that they asked. They dominate any dialogue about 9/11 with argumentative, irrelevant comments. Their reason for engaging in any discussion is simply to negate any significant information that might unravel their own weakly formulated beliefs.
They never allow themselves a chance to look at any of the information about 9/11 that has been revealed. They simply do not want to know that it exists.
Case in point: A few months ago, a visitor to the TvNewsLIES.org web site selected a DVD of In Plane Site as a premium for a donation. Within hours, I received an email from the donor asking to return the DVD because she had been told it “bashed Bush,†In response, I asked her to keep an open mind and view the video. If she still felt its purpose was to ‘bash Bush,†she could return the DVD and I would fully refund her donation. “Just watch it,†I added, “and then make up your mind.â€
The DVD was returned to me, unopened. Enough said.
Internet forums also provide an arena for reinforcing the validity of the two-category concept. Here is where a pack mentality finds its home. Whenever an article or news item questioning the official account of 9/11 is presented for discussion, the responses inevitably fall into one of only two groups. In the first group are those who post comments adding their own information or asking for more details or further verification.
The second group inevitably fires a predictable stream of insults. Anyone who challenges the official version of 9/11 is a crackpot or a conspiracy theorist. The answers drip with sarcasm about UFO’s or Bigfoot, and often bring up some historic “atrocity†committed under the aegis of a Democratic administration, usually that of Bill Clinton. In some collective application of skewed logic, they regularly infer that Clinton’s involvement in Bosnia is somehow related to a discussion of 9/11.
They never, ever, respond to the evidence itself. They never, ever have an explanation or a rationale for the unexplained and highly suspicious inconsistencies in the Kean report. They would rather live with the lies than take the most cursory look at the facts.
Interestingly enough, many of the people who refuse to hear out any presentation of the events of 9/11 willingly sit though sermons in which there is not a shred of evidence to back up the religious messages of they hear. For some strange reason, so many of these people approach the words from their government with the same blind faith they place in their churches, and refuse to even LISTEN to anyone with the most credible evidence of their betrayal.
They will not look; they will not listen to anything that might upset their applecart of absolute faith in the Bush administration. They simply will not.
The paradox becomes evident: so many people who place their faith firmly in the hands of other religious leaders WILL NOT TO EVEN LISTEN to the evidence of a man of religion who appeals to the public on deeply moral and ethical grounds. Such is the nature of the second group.
David Ray Griffin is not a crackpot or a conspiracy theorist. He is a theologian with a highly impressive background in religious philosophy who is passionately pursuing the truth about 9/11. He is also a fearless American, concerned that the conclusions of the Kean Commission whitewash much of the conflicting evidence about the attacks that has been unearthed. His appeal is clearly directed at the religious community in this country, whose basic precepts of goodness, decency and truth should loudly demand an open inquiry into the evidence known today.
The hopeful fact remains that David Ray Griffin also represents those in the religious community who fit into the first category we described. There is a vast group of people who patiently hear the words of their spiritual leaders and then decide for themselves what to believe and what to let pass. They look at the evidence, they listen to the arguments. Having done that on one level, they cannot categorically accept the official version of the events of 9/11 as given. They might demand further inquiry, but they cannot possibly blind themselves to the unsettling evidence before them.
One final caveat: the mainstream media have been complicit and instrumental in promoting and furthering the atmosphere of ignorance in which Group Two exists. The news networks have refused to report any new evidence about 9/11 or to raise any questions about the discrepancies and fallacies in the Kean Report. They have taken no investigative stance whatsoever, and are guilty of covering up (by omission) every single bit of evidence as it has come forward.
Our media have been accepted by much of the general public as Organs of Truth, whose motives are not in question and whose integrity is beyond reproach. And, despite the fact that the corporate media have deceived us to the point of criminality, most people still flock to the pulpit of their television sets for their daily mass of deception.
There must be a way to enlighten the people who will not open their minds at all. We at TvNewsLIES.org are convinced that anyone who is willing to examine the evidence, and who is willing to hear what people such as David Ray Griffin have to say, will become a member of Group One. He or she may not be fully convinced, but the seeds of doubt will have been planted.
Perhaps, by some miracle, we can reach some of those who have chosen to close their eyes and their ears for so long. Perhaps, by the same miracle, some of these people will learn that there are other pulpits with more revealing sermons all around them. In fact, the messages from the independent research and alternative news communities may be the real salvation for a nation so in need of the truth.
To that end, TvNewsLIES.org challenges anyone who has not done so, to examine the available evidence about 9/11 and judge for him or herself whether or not the American people have been told the truth about 9/11.
If you LOOK and LISTEN with an open mind, and can formulate a substantive argument for dismissing everything you see and hear, let us know. We will give you a platform from which to convince those of us in Group One that we have no credible grounds for questioning the conclusions we have been handed.
We eagerly await your response.
* 9/11 - All the Proof You Need
* 9/11 Facts
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WHY AMERICANS REFUSE TO BELIEVE THE 9/11 EVIDENCE!!! - The attacks of 9/11 were so unthinkable that most Americans would refuse to believe the complicity of their own government, even if presented with a mountain of evidence. - Very simply, it is possible to escape blame if you do something that nobody in the world believes you could do.
from:
http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/davi...lmost_perf.html
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Also, they would have had to place truck bombs at the base of both towers, and Building 7, and the Pentagon. Would never work. Too unrealistic...
