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Was 911 an inside job?

Was 911 carried out by the Government?

  • Yes or more likely than not

  • No.

  • I dont want to say.


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Date: Mon May 16 2005 19:36
WilloTheWarthog (Banking with Hitler) ID#236291:
Copyright © 2002 WilloTheWarthog/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved
Here's the comment from the site on this movie ( 102 seeders, 47 downloaders click here ... ) :

"Swiss banks stand accused of collaborating with the Nazis during World War II. This was suspected at the time by U.S. Secretary of Treasury Henry Morgenthau, who began investigating this collaboration. He found the Swiss were not alone.

"His archives reveal that both British and American bankers continued to do business with Hitler, even as Germany was invading Europe and bombing London. This investigative film shows in detail the roles played by the Anglo-German banking clique. Key members of the Bank of England together with their German counterparts established the BIS, the Bank for International Settlement, which laundered the plundered gold of Europe. On its board were key Nazis such as Walther Funk and Hjalamar Schact The president of BIS was an American, Thomas McKittrick, who readily socialized with leading Nazis. Not only the BIS, but other allied banks worked hand in hand with the Nazis.

"One of the biggest American banks kept a branch open in Occupied Paris and, with full knowledge of the managers in the U.S., froze the accounts of French Jews. Deprived of money to escape France, many ended up in death camps. When Pres. Roosevelt died in April 1945, Morganthau lost his protector and his crusade against the banks came to an end. He was further weakened when men in his department were accused of being Communists during the McCarthy era.

"This incredible story contains interviews with surviving members of banking families and Morganthaus investigative team as well as newly found archive material."

Guess I'll go ahead and download these guys over the next few days, they're not that big ( this one's 130 megs ) .
 
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CBC-911 VIDEO SECRETS REVEALED *PIC*

Posted By: nwowatcher <Send E-Mail>
Date: Monday, 16 May 2005, 3:45 a.m.

CBC 911 Video Secrets Revealed:
http://www.rense.com/general65/911b.htm

LOTS of GREAT INFO!

DON'T MISS

911 CNN Reports Boeing 737s Struck WTC
http://www.rense.com/general65/911h.htm

Sneak Preview - 911 Pentagon Tapes
http://www.rense.com/general64/911et.htm

The Rest Of The 9/11 Street Engine Story
http://www.rense.com/general64/wth.htm

NYC Photos, Flight 93 Witnesses Identify 9/11 White Jet
http://www.rense.com/general64/white.htm

On 9/11 An Ill Wind Blew to Booker School
http://www.rense.com/general63/wte.htm

WTC Jet Engine Confirmed NOT From Boeing 767
http://www.rense.com/general63/wtcc.htm

Second 911 Remote Control Antenna Verified
http://www.rense.com/general63/secnd.htm

Avionics Expert-A 911 Remote Control Lesson for PM
http://www.rense.com/general63/remo.htm

WTC Cutter Charges Clearly Visible
http://www.rense.com/general63/cutt.htm

Real 911 Science For PM - The ST Airliner Photo
http://www.rense.com/general63/st.htm

PM Claims Landing Gear Made Pentagon 12 Foot Hole
http://www.rense.com/general63/pmm.htm

PM Missed NASA 911-type Airliner Crash 20 Years Ago
http://www.rense.com/general63/pm.htm

Is Popular Mechanics Hiding 911 NYC Engine In Street Photo?
http://www.rense.com/general63/hiding.htm

Missing Pentagon Jet Engine Identified?
http://www.rense.com/general63/ident.htm

Missing Pentagon Unobstructed Citgo Videos
http://www.rense.com/general63/unob.htm


http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net...ames;read=74866


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Poll,,,Was 911 an inside Job, a " False Flag Special "?


*YES.. A moo u sad / zionist and Freakmason/ CIA - MI5 ( The Unholy trinity ) " FALSE FLAG SPECIAL ". Votes, 14,106

*The neocon's only ordered the US airforce to stay grounded for two hours, to permit 911 to happen. Votes, 1,673


*Bin Laden did it. He remoted controlled the planes and detonated the explosives and thermite with his trusty atari joystick, from his Batcave. Votes, 4


* Saddam did it, with his weapons of mass destruction and yellowcake from Nigeria. Fox news told me, i know it's true. Votes,2


*A Moo sad cell, called I'll Kidya, did it. Votes, 5,376
 
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THE THEOCRATS
By William Rivers Pitt

Tuesday 19 April 2005
One push of the button
And a shot the world wide
And you never ask questions
When God's on your side.
- Bob Dylan, 'With God on Our Side'

Ten years ago today, an anti-government extremist named Timothy McVeigh parked a Ryder truck filled with fertilizer and fuel oil in front of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City. At 9:02 in the morning, the truck exploded and carved out the guts of that building like a gourd. 168 people, including 19 children, died in the blast. It remains today the most devastating act of domestic terrorism in American history.

McVeigh was birthed from a movement that became all too prominent during the 1990s. The militia people, they of the Black Government Helicopters and the theory that the United Nations was getting ready to take over the world, made up the far-right flank of Newt Gingrich's GOP back in the day. After Oklahoma City, however, the militias petered out and faded into the backwoods background from whence they came.

That breed of extremist was on the outside looking in at the time. They have been replaced today by an extremist movement of surpassing menace. Like the militias before them, this new breed likewise represents the far-right flank of the GOP. Unlike their predecessors, however, this new breed enjoys unprecedented insider status. They are represented vigorously in Congress and the White House, and are calling many of the shots.

McVeigh and his militia ilk wanted to destroy the government so they could keep their guns and pay no taxes, basically. McVeigh destroyed the Murrah building to strike a blow for this cause. As catastrophic as that attack was, it pales in comparison to the damage this nation will endure if these new extremists are allowed to have their way. Their vision of America does away with the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the separation of church and state.

They are the Theocrats, the Christian Taliban right here in America, and they are deadly dangerous both to this nation and the world entire. These people do not in any way represent mainstream Christianity, yet sadly they are redefining the meaning of that faith across the board. They would annihilate all that America has stood for these last two hundred years to 'save' the nation, literally as far as they are concerned, and right now, they believe they have the power to get everything they want.

Read the entire article at: http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/041905Y.shtml
 
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War is Peace! 911 was made in Tel Aviv and Washington DC!
Osama/Sadaam/Taliban/Somalian Warlords/Milosovich/Noriega/Zimbagoo (or whatever it is), etc, etc, etc bogeymen du jour = Emanuel Goldstein

"Al Qaeda" = Eastasia


911 was made in Tel Aviv and Washington DC! Neither the peoples nor governments of Iraq nor Afghanistan, nor the other enemies of Israel that they want to attack next, had the slightest thing to do with it!


http://whatreallyhappened.com


WAR IS PEACE
 
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Originally posted by flagpole


Badass, many of us have read a lot of articles written by experts on the subect as well as numerous videos, combined with keen observation and the inconsistent explanations provided by authorities. It's easy to find holes the whole thing. It's to the point now where only idiots, or people that haven't the time nor inclination to look into it, believe the offical storyline.



Egg-zak-ly... but don't forget the "apologists" - those who WILLINGLY close their eyes, so afraid that their BELIEF SYSTEM will come crashing down, and the CO-CONSPIRATORS AFTER THE FACT, who are well aware of the pack of lies, but defend it in a warped sense of misplaced so-called "Patriotism" - not unlike the German masses in the 30's.
 
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Bush's Bagdad Palace
First Published 2006-06-26, Last Updated 2006-06-26 09:57:56

Bush's Baghdad Palace


It will be near as big as the Vatican and totally self-sufficient. Currently, it's the best, on-schedule, Halliburton-contracted construction site in Baghdad and all of Iraq. The Nation's Nicholas von Hoffman describes the creation of the new United States embassy.


Among the many secrets the American government cannot keep, one of its biggest (104 acres) and most expensive ($592 million) is the American Embassy being built in Baghdad. Surrounded by fifteen-foot-thick walls, almost as large as the Vatican on a scale comparable to the Mall of America, to which it seems to have a certain spiritual affinity, this is no simple object to hide.


So you think the Bush Administration is planning on leaving Iraq? Read on.


The Chicago Tribune reports, "Trucks shuttle building materials to and fro. Cranes, at least a dozen of them, punch toward the sky. Concrete structures are beginning to take form. At a time when most Iraqis are enduring blackouts of up to 22 hours a day, the site is floodlighted by night so work can continue around the clock."


It will come as less than a surprise to learn that this project is another Halliburton deal subbed out to an outfit in Kuwait. The Tribune says that "for security reasons, the new embassy is being built entirely by imported labor. The contractor, First Kuwaiti General Trading and Contracting Co., which was linked to human-trafficking allegations by a Chicago Tribune investigation last year, has hired a workforce of 900 mostly Asian workers who live on the site." In a land where half the population is out of work the United States ought to win countless native hearts and minds with this labor policy.


On the other hand, the latest is that the facilities for the 8,000 people scheduled to work in the vice-regal compound will be completed on time next year. Doubtless the cooks, janitors and serving staff attending to the Americans' needs and comforts in this establishment, which is said to exceed in luxury and appointments anything Saddam Hussein built for himself, will not be Iraqis either.


According to Knight Ridder, "US officials here [in Baghdad] greet questions about the site with a curtness that borders on hostility. Reporters are referred to the State Department in Washington, which declined to answer questions for security reasons." Photographers attempting to get pictures of what the locals call "George W's Palace" are confined to using telephoto lenses on this, the largest construction project undertaken by Iraq's American visitors.


Nonetheless, we know much of what is going on in the place, where there will soon be twenty-one buildings, 619 apartments with very fancy digs for the big shots, restaurants, shops, gym facilities, a swimming pool, a food court, a beauty salon, a movie theater (we can't say if it's a multiplex) and, as the Times of London reports, "a swish club for evening functions." This should be ideal for announcing the various new milestones marking the trudge of the Iraqi people toward democracy and freedom.


USA Today has learned that the "massive new embassy, being built on the banks of the Tigris River, is designed to be entirely self-sufficient and won't be dependent on Iraq's unreliable public utilities." Thus, there will be no reason or excuse for any of the thousands of Americans working in this space, which is about the size of eighty football fields, to share the daily life experience of an Iraqi or even come in accidental contact with one.


"It's no secret why a luxurious embassy might be needed in Baghdad. The State Department is finding it more difficult to persuade people to staff the embassy here," writes Knight Ridder's Leila Fadel. "The post needs people with language skills and experience that are already hard to find. Americans can't bring their families here, and the kidnappings and violence relegate Americans to the embassy complex." Thus it appears that our diplomatic personnel are more like mercenaries than Doctors Without Borders. The "above and beyond the call of duty" stuff is strictly for our beleaguered soldiers.


This gigantic complex does not square with the repeated assertions by the people who run the American government that the United States will not stay in the country after Iraq becomes a stand-alone, democratic entity. An "embassy" in which 8,000 people labor, along with the however many thousand military personnnel necessary to defend them, is not a diplomatic outpost. It is a base. A permanent base.


So it turns out that the plan, if that is the right word for the haphazard, faith-based, fact-free and data-scarce decision-making that has been the one constant in this adventure, is to stay in Baghdad and run the country. This is beyond lunacy.


There are these 8,000 Americans holed up in a private city, who do not dare to leave their fortified luxury bunker for fear of being killed or kidnapped and tortured if caught outside their fortified walls, and who are trying to run the country by giving orders to the Iraqi government, which is also operating out of the Green Zone, that vast fortified place isolated from the people of the country.


Democrats demanding an exit strategy from Iraq are routinely derided by the Bush Administration as cowards who "cut and run." But if this Embassy plan is not a form of cut and run, what is it? Instead of cutting and making a run for Kuwait, they intend to cut and run into what amounts to the world's largest bunker, a capacious rat hole where they can wait in safety until all the Iraqis have killed one another or all factions unite, march on this air-conditioned citadel and slit the throats of its irrelevant inhabitants.

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Originally posted by dacrunch


And that ONE PLANE DID in fact NOT REACH DESTINATION: the "drone" shot down in Shankesville, PA. - whose engine was found MILES AWAY from the IMPACT SITE (as if hijackers could "jettison" an engine from the ****pit of Flight 93).

Which destination? The most likely would have been WTC Bldg 7. Leaving the "missing plane" in the "fall" of that building.

1 + 1 = ?


Originally posted by sdodd
I must have missed some of your fine work. Which tower fell down spontaneously when this plane missed?

sdodd



This one:

WTC #7 Collapse Video - 49 stories in 6 seconds - no plane
 
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Originally posted by Got Gold?
dacrunch, I'm shocked!!!!!!!!!!! That was the best video ducumentation of Kennedy I have ever seen in my life. I'm especially shocked at the notion ossswald was working for Jeger whover as an undercover. Now it all makes sense.

My theory has always been that of whoever did in the Kennedy boys = are in power today. That is the result of a paradox. A paradox is an unwanted change of the future.


And here we are living in this chithole we call America!



Hey GG - "Waking Up" is often not a "feel-good" experience. Like finding out that Santa & the Easter Bunny don't exist... hence the strong resistance.

America has COUNTLESS MILLIONS of marvelous people, with huge hearts, who will come together and rebuild a neighbor's burnt-down barn, participate in charities, give a helping hand to friends in need (yes, you - sdodd). But the "brainwashing" is a fact, when it comes to swallowing down brazen lies & disinformation, repeated ad nauseam by the media (which is "liberal" by no means!).

The only reason I post these FACTS (theories are what you can INFER from them) is from a sense of SOCIAL RESPONSABILITY toward my fellow Men & Women in our country, and on the planet.

I consider silence - when in possession of unspread knowledge - to be treasonous.

Not treasonous to the "handlers" of our society, but to the PEOPLE who are written into our constitution as the supposed "masters of our destiny".

The real traitors are those who spread the coverup lies - and those who perpetrated the "events" in the first place - not from a cave half a world away - but in full control of our air-defense system, our media, and our political system (both parties).

"Bush-hater" is what I've been accused of. "Clinton-hater" and "Kerry-hater" would apply as well.

But "hate" is not the issue. I don't "hate" anybody - it doesn't fit my emotional ground. I'm disgusted, yes. I'm powerless, yes. I'm frustrated, yes. But mostly, I'm saddened at the syphon that's overwhelmingly increasing power in the hands of the very few, and dumbing-down the very many.

Requiem for what was intended to be "democracy for, by and of the People".
 
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Originally posted by dacrunch


Okay, I'll play "your game".

1) Yes, "drone" is "my" word. Show me any picture of a Boeing anywhere near the Pentagon, and I'll change my opinion (not fact) that it was a Global Hawk drone armed with a bunker-busting cruise missile that hit the Pentagon. You should be able (in an open democracy) to provide me with that Boeing photo, from the one place in the world (the Pentagon) where there are the most cameras per square foot.

2) The "Situation Room" (below-ground bunker where Cheney & Mineta were located) was the new National Defense Control Center - newly under Cheney's direct orders, having been very recently REMOVED from the generals who had operated it for decades.

3) "Presidential Orders"? - did you see our President issuing any while reading My Pet Goat? Did you see his Secret Service personnel rushing him off to protect the Leader of our Nation when it was clear that the country was under attack? - The only conclusion possible is that there was knowledge that the schoolhouse was NOT a TARGET. Otherwise immediate action would have been taken to protect POTUS.

4) "Do the orders still stand?" inquired the worried young assistant. Involving the "plane" which was "10 miles from the Pentagon". If they WERE IN FACT ORDERS TO SHOOT IT DOWN, they had already had PLENTY OF TIME to do it, since this was a repeat of SEVERAL ENTRANCES by the same staffer, disclosing the ever-approaching "plane".

So, if it had IN FACT been a "SHOOT-DOWN ORDER", don't imaging one minute that our F15s and F16s, along with the MISSLE DEFENSE systems at the Pentagon were incapable of "bringing it down".

The only conclusion remaining is that it was a "DON'T SHOOT DOWN" order.

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Happy? I'm not.

But that's all that stands up to reason.
 
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Re: Re: Re: Re: So why use the airplanes?

quote:Originally posted by sdodd


You don't need the palnes. The first acts were done with a truck. Why not just do it and skip the very hard to imlement antics.

If one plane had missed crashing elsewhere while the tower came down you are exposed.

I wouldn't take this contract with the planes. See another operative.

sdodd



They needed the planes for two reasons. First it wasn't enough to scare the bejesis outta anyone going into a highrise building ever again but to do the same for anyone going to fly again . . . more fear for the buck . . . and second to make the whole operation a money making opportunity by buying massive amounts of Puts on the two airline companys. It worked too . . . they changed America forever and made a fortune doing it.

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Originally posted by badjack10000


Do you bang your head into the cement five times each day like a good little Al Kader? Do you do little boys and tell them your holy stories of 72 virgins they can rape up in "heaven"?

You verminous little pig of a fool!! You lying harlot!! You agent of my enemy, are my enemy. You should be shot as the enemy you are. F you and all your family forever!



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I'm sorry - but the "true patriot" is one who loves his nation, his fellow citizens, and is revolted by abuse of power... and bullying.

I'm sorry that you prefer to be the bully.

When debate proves you wrong, you pull out a club and start whacking.

Sad...

dacrunch
 
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: So why use the airplanes?

quote:Originally posted by Krank


... and second to make the whole operation a money making opportunity by buying massive amounts of Puts on the two airline companys. It worked too . . . they changed America forever and made a fortune doing it.



The fact that finally came out was that the put options on American & United (no other airlines) in extremely high volume, had originated in the trading firm belonging to ex-CIA director Buzzy Krongard.

After that, we heard no more about those puts, apart from the release that the proceeds had NOT been collected.

And also that the records of the trades had been siezed by the FBI at the Chicago Exchange, never to be seen again.

Coincidences... enough to drown in.
 
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Just chuckling - I had virtually "given up" on spreading "unconventional" FACTS to strangers over the web, having run so frequently into vicious angry hate mobs...

Almost by accident did I stumble into this forum - here for the PMs commentaries.

But in the face of repeated re-assertion of the patent lies that have been (so well) drilled into the populace's mindset, I felt a "moral duty" to point out the falsehoods of the drivel they've come to consider "truth".

And yet again... facing a rabid mob. Interrupted only by a few thinking individuals - but the rabid mob just loves big red highlights, insults, threats... while the "thinkers" would rather be PROVEN WRONG by LOGIC - and change their opinion if/when that logic should be substantiated.

But no - like in the schoolbus, while the driver's paying attention to the road, the few bullies pull out their sticks and start flaying away...

So so sad...


dacrunch
 
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Hi,
I cant believe it. Dacrunch posted a link to the video where the owner of WTC 7 admits he "pulled" down building 7 in a controilled demolition. Well that ends debate about how WTC 7 came down - with explosives as admitted, since to "pull down a building" means to use explosives to bring it down and is an industry term used to describe a controlled demolition.
Problem is, it takes many weeks to plant the explosives to pull down a building.
Are you going to say the owner of WTC 7 lied and he did not pull down buiilding 7 as he said he did on the video?
video link here......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8ph...&search=WTC 7

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"They haven't got the parts to execute the conspiracy plan ..."

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The conspiracy to set up current day of no Spiritual fruit israel was commenced by the barron von ratchild bloodline more than 100 years ago.. They started ww1 and ww2 solely for that porpose.. WW3, which started with the invasion of Afghanistan, is for the expansion of satan's of current day, of no Spiritual fruit isreal..


When the seven Angels are floating above mystery Babylon the great, America, and turning them to dust, the citizens will say,, i command you to cease and desist, in the name of God's servant, Bushpig the ANTICHRIST..
 
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Another one for you Sod,

If infact, America is at war, then why are your southern borders wide open, with thousands of illegals and terrorists permitted to cross the border each day.. The president who would permit this in a time of war, would be hung for treason..
 
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hey sod,

What about those five isrealis, giving each other high fives, whilst dressed as Arabs, when the First plane hit the tower..

How did they know to have their cameras set and rolling.. The CIA and FBI were aware of this incident on the first day, and yet, it appeared in none of the Jewish controlled media coverage. In fact, when the police apprehended them, orders came directly from isreal, to permit them to return to israel.. without charges or interogation.. These five had advance knowledge of the inside job and greatest mass murder on American soil in history, and they were permitted to return to israel, uncherged.. i say, DING DING.
 
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