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Visits to hell

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by Lybrah, Sep 6, 2020.

Do you believe people who claim they visited hell or heaven?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    6 vote(s)
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  3. I’m not sure

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  1. Lybrah

    Lybrah Active Member

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    Many claim that Jesus took them on a trip to hell and heaven to tell us that these places exist. Are they making it up? Why would they do that?
     
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  2. d taylor

    d taylor Well-Known Member

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  3. vinsight4u

    vinsight4u Contributor

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    /nvm
     
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  4. Lost4words

    Lost4words Jesus I Trust In You Supporter

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    I wouldnt like to second guess these things to be honest. Maybe sone are true. Who knows?
     
  5. keras

    keras Writer of studies on Bible prophecy

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    The only verse that says Jesus did descend to hell, as in the Apostles Creed, is 1 Peter 3:19-20.
    This truth destroys the idea that Jesus took the thief on the Cross with Him to heaven, at his death.
    Luke 23:43 Truly I tell you today, you will be with Me in paradise. [corrected punctuation]
    That person and everyone who has ever lived will stand before God in Judgment, after the Millennium. His name will be found in the Book of Life and he will receive immortality. Revelation 20:11-15
     
  6. vinsight4u

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    /nvm
     
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  7. vinsight4u

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    /nvm
     
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  8. vinsight4u

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    /nvm
     
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  9. JSRG

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    I will repeat what I said in another topic recently:
     
  10. bèlla

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    Lybrah,

    If I stick my hand in a cup of oil it will be difficult to remove. I can wash them but something remains behind. I’ll have to scrub very hard and get in the nooks and crannies to remove its presence. I may have to do it once more if the scent lingers.

    Lies are a lot like that. They’re harder to forget once you digest them. The tidbits that remain influence your thinking in other subjects. Keeping your mind free of deception is a must.

    The question isn’t whether the accounts are true but how you benefit from the information.
    • Is your Christian walk strengthened by the disclosures?
    • Have you drawn closer to God?
    • Do you love your neighbor more than before?
    Yours in His Service,

    ~Bella
     
  11. vinsight4u

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    /nvm
     
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  12. BobRyan

    BobRyan Junior Member Supporter

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    First of all - NDE is like saying "my computer was crashing while I was running a program to calculate my taxes". Then saying "I got it rebooted and re-installed some faulty system software but I am going to use the results it calculated for my taxes while it was crashing... anyway. instead of having it redo the tax calculations".

    hmmm

    And there are "other options" as well somewhat related to that.
     
  13. BobRyan

    BobRyan Junior Member Supporter

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    There is someone who will never get a job flying a plane or at NASA. But the good news is ... you can still ride a plane so that's at least something.
     
  14. imsaneru

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    I have read books written by doctors who talk about NDE'S or near death experience , about people who have died on the operating table and came back to life. The reports all seem to be similar , out of body experience , traveling through a tunnel toward a bright light with some even meeting their dead loved ones , but I can't remember anyone saying that something bad happened to them , like going to hell or whatever.
     
  15. garee

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    Hell is the living sufferings, experiences of the wage of sin of mankind that is subject the the letter of the law death (you shall surely die, in dying the suffering.) . In that way according to Isaiah 53 the Father struck the Son not forsaking the Son of man but empowering him to finish the work of two. .The father being in a greater position to strengthen the Son .Not a greater person . The father and Son are one God, one Spirit , one faith as a work .

    On the last day the letter of the law "death along with the sufferings of hell will be cast in the judgment fire of God never to rise and condemn through corruption another entire creation.

    Those who do not rise to new born again spirit life .Their temporal spirit subject to the letter of the law returns to the father who gave it temporally and the flesh returns to the clay of the field .

    No sufferings after one gives up the spirit. The second death (no breath of life under the sun ).

    Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

    Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

    Again death the living sufferings of this world is called hell.
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