Virginia House Panel Kills Lincoln Bicentennial Bill

[MoodyBlue]

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) -- Virginia lawmakers meeting on the grounds of the former Confederate Capitol killed legislation creating a commission to oversee the state's participation in the national commemoration of the bicentennial of Abraham Lincoln's birth.

For the full story:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...SITE=VAHAR&SECTION=NORTHEAST&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Also from the article: "Robert Lamb of Richmond, a lawyer and a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, told the committee that supporters of a Virginia celebration of Lincoln's birth suffer from "historical myopia and amnesia."
"He sent armies into Virginia to lay waste to our land," said Lamb. He said Marsh's bill should be amended to replace the Lincoln commemoration with a June 3, 2008, celebration of the 200th birthday of Confederate President Jefferson Davis."

 

[CaligulaNero]

It's just sad.

 

[cmg08]

what a shame...what is this world coming to

 

[Randombitsofstring]

I have a news flash for Virginia: You LOST. Get over it.

 

[momalle1]

Wow! This is worse than black people looking for reparations for slavery, it's time to let go, oh wait, you have nothing to let go!

Guess we shouldn't be using five dollar bills in Virginia?

 

[MoodyBlue]

I am ashamed to say that I live in Virginia. Pretty unbelievable, looks like some folks want to keep fighting the Civil War (or as it is known around here, the "War between the States").

 

[momalle1]

I am ashamed to say that I live in Virginia. Pretty unbelievable, looks like some folks want to keep fighting the Civil War (or as it is known around here, the "War between the States").

I thought it was the war of northern aggression!

Seriously, I have met many great people from the south, including Virginia and have never personally met anyone who still held a grudge.

 

[TheNewWorldMan]

I'm sick of political correctness and sanitized history.

The fact is, the South had some legitimate grievances against the North. The South also supported slavery, which was of course reprehensible.

History should be told as it happened. The South should mark its history without censorship...the noble and the base, the good and the evil, the refined and the brutal. Both Lincoln and the Confederate president should be celebrated, even as we note without aversion or whitewashing the foibles of both. Both are part of our history. When we whitewash the sins of history, we do ourselves and the past a disservice, and rob future generations of the chance to learn the full, rich heritage of this Republic.

 

[OhhJim]

I don't have a problem with Virginia doing what it wants. States' Rights, and all that.

 

[JPPT1974]

The Civil war ended in 1865 but it has
Been their "own civil war" that they seem to keep
On fighting!

 

[billwald]

Lincoln, the president who mocked the Declaration of Independance, destroyed the Constitution, and killed more Americans than Hitler, and Tojo?

 

[Ave Maria]

Wow. This is pretty darn sad. Sheesh, get over it Virginia, you LOST the war!

 

[Diane_Windsor]

I don't have a problem with Virginia doing what it wants. States' Rights, and all that.

I absolutely agree, and for those of us who are not Virginians it is none of our business what that state decides to do. Speaking of States' Rights-that is what the war was fought over.

 

[Diane_Windsor]

He said Marsh's bill should be amended to replace the Lincoln commemoration with a June 3, 2008, celebration of the 200th birthday of Confederate President Jefferson Davis.

I like that idea. Jeff Davis was an honourable man, and an American patriot.

 

[OhhJim]

Lincoln, the president who...destroyed the Constitution...

So, you're saying it would be impossible for GW Bush to violate the Constitution, since it has already been destroyed? That explains so much.

 

[reverend B]

He said Marsh's bill should be amended to replace the Lincoln commemoration with a June 3, 2008, celebration of the 200th birthday of Confederate President Jefferson Davis.

I like that idea. Jeff Davis was an honourable man, and an American patriot.

you might make a case for him being honourable, but it is hard to call the man a patriot when he led a movement to leave the u.s. behind and create a new country. very difficult to characterize that as patriotism, even if you support the ideas that the movement personified.

 

[Crusader05]

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) -- Virginia lawmakers meeting on the grounds of the former Confederate Capitol killed legislation creating a commission to oversee the state's participation in the national commemoration of the bicentennial of Abraham Lincoln's birth.

For the full story:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...SITE=VAHAR&SECTION=NORTHEAST&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Also from the article: "Robert Lamb of Richmond, a lawyer and a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, told the committee that supporters of a Virginia celebration of Lincoln's birth suffer from "historical myopia and amnesia."
"He sent armies into Virginia to lay waste to our land," said Lamb. He said Marsh's bill should be amended to replace the Lincoln commemoration with a June 3, 2008, celebration of the 200th birthday of Confederate President Jefferson Davis."

Celebrate Jeff Davis' birthday? But I thought it was unamerican to celebrate traitors?

 

[billwald]

>So, you're saying it would be impossible for GW Bush to violate the Constitution, since it has already been destroyed?

Basically, yes. We are governed by case law and several hundred secret executive orders.

 

[Cajun Huguenot]

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) -- Virginia lawmakers meeting on the grounds of the former Confederate Capitol killed legislation creating a commission to oversee the state's participation in the national commemoration of the bicentennial of Abraham Lincoln's birth.

For the full story:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...SITE=VAHAR&SECTION=NORTHEAST&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Also from the article: "Robert Lamb of Richmond, a lawyer and a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, told the committee that supporters of a Virginia celebration of Lincoln's birth suffer from "historical myopia and amnesia."
"He sent armies into Virginia to lay waste to our land," said Lamb. He said Marsh's bill should be amended to replace the Lincoln commemoration with a June 3, 2008, celebration of the 200th birthday of Confederate President Jefferson Davis."

I think this is good news. Lincoln was a despot.

Deo Vindice,
Kenith

 

[Cajun Huguenot]

Celebrate Jeff Davis' birthday? But I thought it was unamerican to celebrate traitors?

Was Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Franklin, Adams, etc... traitors? I say no. Our British friends would likely say yes.

What about Wallace and Bruce? The Scots would say no, while English might say yes.

Was Jefferson Davis a traitor? I am Southron and I think he was, like Washington and Henry, a patriot. Northern folk think differently.

Coram Deo,
Kenith