Unvaccinated hospitalized patients say they regret not getting the shot

[Navair2]

Would you please stop repeating the lie that mRNA vaccines manipulate the DNA?

What do you call something that writes to the DNA in order to provoke the body to produce a protein that would never be there unless a person was exposed to SARS-Cov2?

Manipulation, is it not?

 

[Nithavela]

What do you call something that writes to the DNA in order to provoke the body to produce a protein that would never be there unless a person was exposed to SARS-Cov2?

Manipulation, is it not?

The mRNA Vaccine does not "write to the DNA". What's that even supposed to mean? It does not interact with the DNA at all.

 

[Navair2]

All,
I appreciate your responses and the time it's taken for you to write your replies.

The truth is, is that I'm not obligated in any way, shape or form to put something in my body that I don't want to, especially if I'm convinced it's not in my best interests to do so.

If you are fine with all that's been happening with regard to the new vaccines, then it seems I cannot convince you other wise.
That said, please leave me and others like me out of the blame game;

With all due respect,
I'm not interested in becoming a scapegoat for why people die from diseases.
Please take that up with the Lord, whose right it is to both give life and to take it.


May He bless you all with wisdom and with His grace.

 

[loveofourlord]

I've never said that I don't care about other people;
The truth is that I do.

In addition, statistically I am a healthy person who has only had the flu a few times in my life, and I haven't been vaccinated in years.
I also am not averse to getting a vaccine...
I'm against getting these vaccines that were developed using methods that manipulate DNA.

What I'm also taking issue with is this current " everyone should get vaccinated or we're all going to die" mentality that seems to be taking over nowadays...
Have we really come that far?

You say that but you have no proof, healthy people have died from this and nothing stops you from spreading it this isn't the kind of disease where you can claim to be healthy because your not showing symptoms it's as simple as that. Your putting other peoples lives a risk because of the selfish and ignorant beliefs about what the vaccine does or is.

 

[Nithavela]

All,
I appreciate your responses and the time it's taken for you to write your replies.

The truth is, is that I'm not obligated in any way, shape or form to put something in my body that I don't want to, especially if I'm convinced it's not in my best interests to do so.

If you are fine with all that's been happening with regard to the new vaccines, then it seems I cannot convince you other wise.
That said, please leave me and others like me out of the blame game;

With all due respect,
I'm not interested in becoming a scapegoat for why people die from diseases.
Please take that up with the Lord, whose right it is to both give life and to take it.


May He bless you all with wisdom and with His grace.

I just want you to stop posting falsehoods, then you can do whatever you want.

This is a discussion forum, not a "state my opinion and be left in peace" forum. If you post things, be prepared for others to disagree or don't post at all.

 

[loveofourlord]

All,
I appreciate your responses and the time it's taken for you to write your replies.

The truth is, is that I'm not obligated in any way, shape or form to put something in my body that I don't want to, especially if I'm convinced it's not in my best interests to do so.

If you are fine with all that's been happening with regard to the new vaccines, then it seems I cannot convince you other wise.
That said, please leave me and others like me out of the blame game;

With all due respect,
I'm not interested in becoming a scapegoat for why people die from diseases.
Please take that up with the Lord, whose right it is to both give life and to take it.


May He bless you all with wisdom and with His grace.

you are fine to do that, but then we have no obligation to let you deal with the rest of society.

 

[Navair2]

you are fine to do that, but then we have no obligation to let you deal with the rest of society.

Honestly,
This isn't my world, I'm just passing through.
I never wanted to deal with the rest of society, as there's no place for me here.

I don't wish them harm, but the fact remains that My Lord says that they all hate Him, and they will hate me as well.
So whatever you have planned for me and others like me, please get it over with as soon as possible so we can all go home?

Many of us are already grieved with being here for just the short time that we have been.

May God bless you sir.

 

[loveofourlord]

Honestly,
This isn't my world, I'm just passing through.
I never wanted to deal with the rest of society, as there's no place for me here.

I don't wish them harm, but the fact remains that My Lord says that they all hate Him, and they will hate me as well.
So whatever you have planned for me and others like me, please get it over with as soon as possible so we can all go home?

Many of us are already grieved with being here for just the short time that we have been.

May God bless you sir.

personally I think god would hate you acting in a way that get people killed, hiding behind him to excuse endangering people's lives isn't a very good thing.

 

[essentialsaltes]

The truth is that even without vaccines, the mortality rate for COVID-19, just in America alone, has been only roughly .6%.
In other words, this is not the mass killer that we were led to believe that it could be, early on.

Sure it is. The initial estimates were that, if we did nothing, 1-2 million Americans would die.

We did not do nothing, and nevertheless 600,000 Americans have already died.

 

[Nithavela]

Sure it is. The initial estimates were that, if we did nothing, 1-2 million Americans would die.

We did not do nothing, and nevertheless 600,000 Americans have already died.

Also, there's the matter of long covid, the damages of which we will not know for years, if not decades.

 

[o_mlly]

"It is heart-wrenching to see unvaccinated individuals come into the hospital with regret," said Dare, an infectious diseases physician [in Arkansas]. They are patients who, "if they could do it all over again, would have had the vaccine in a second."

...

Isn't this just a "dog bites man" story? Like, "After child accidentally shoots mother, father regrets buying gun, "If I had to do it all over again, I'd never have bought the darn thing".

The story understandably appeals to our emotions but what we need are more facts. There is no solution to SARS type viral infections, only tradeoffs. There is no risk free vaccine, only tradeoffs. Where's Joe Friday when you need him on the job?

 

[cow451]

All,
I appreciate your responses and the time it's taken for you to write your replies.

The truth is, is that I'm not obligated in any way, shape or form to put something in my body that I don't want to, especially if I'm convinced it's not in my best interests to do so.

If you are fine with all that's been happening with regard to the new vaccines, then it seems I cannot convince you other wise.
That said, please leave me and others like me out of the blame game;

With all due respect,
I'm not interested in becoming a scapegoat for why people die from diseases.
Please take that up with the Lord, whose right it is to both give life and to take it.


May He bless you all with wisdom and with His grace.

Have you even read the responses to you posts here about DNA?

 

[essentialsaltes]

The story understandably appeals to our emotions but what we need are more facts.

Correct. The scientists and doctors have presented the facts. Reality-based posters here have presented the facts. Nevertheless, particular groups of people have proven resistant to facts. As people say, "You can't argue a person out of a position that they didn't argue themselves into."

So we are forced to fight irrational politicization of a health issue with all the means at our disposal. Facts, public service announcements, and emotional appeals.

There is no risk free vaccine, only tradeoffs.

But the facts show that, at worst, the risks of the vaccine are a thousand times rarer than the risk of dying of the disease. The facts also show that, in the US, the disease has largely become a disease only of the unvaccinated. Of the 130 people who died of COVID-19 in Maryland in June, 100% of them were unvaccinated. It's in the high 90s in other locations.

The facts show that vaccination greatly reduces the chances of hospitalization and death.

 

[The Narrow Way]

Do you believe any professionally trained individuals?

We put alot of stock in this Medical Doctor....check him out...

 

[claninja]

New Danish Study Finds Masks Don’t Protect Wearers From COVID Infection | Jon Miltimore

from the article you posted:

“The Times is correct that the study “did not contradict” evidence that suggests masks can prevent sick people from transmitting the virus to others. But the Danish study didn’t test for this; as the paper notes, only healthy people were tested in the experiment.”

Cloth or surgical Masks are not worn to protect you from getting covid. Masks are worn to help reduce sick people spreading the disease, which they do. (Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)).

 

[claninja]

Yes, I have alot of medical people in my family, daughters, daughter-in-law, son-in-law, and they all say the same thing...masks don't work.

If your family member’s arguments were that surgical or cloth masks don’t protect you from covid, yes that is true. But that’s not why mask wearing is promoted. Mask wearing is promoted because it has been shown to reduce transmission of the virus by those that are infected.

 

[pitabread]

The pandemic is "fake"?

What planet are people on?

Denialism is a defense mechanism. People who are in denial are not yet prepared to accept the reality of what has been happening.

 

[pitabread]

What I don't like are ones that manipulate a person's DNA in the process.

That's not how these vaccines work. :/

 

[durangodawood]

That's not how these vaccines work. :/

You can say it a million times and show them good clear explanations. But it never breaks through.

 

[MehGuy]

I find it somewhat weird that the only thing I'm really looking forward to this week is getting my second Covid shot.. even the potential for serious side effects is only exciting to think about. I'll be living life on the edge this week.. lol.