University of Wisconsin won’t condemn pro-Hamas protesters chanting ‘glory to the murders’

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The Tuesday protest saw a crowd of students with Palestinian flags in front of the school’s library, with one young woman shouting into a microphone, “Glory to the murders!” and “We will liberate the land — by any means necessary!”
Realize that the Chancellor is Jennifer Mnookin, a liberal from California that has a history of advocating for Critical Race Theory. It was reported that in 2019 she advocated Hunter Biden join the faculty at UCLA as an instructor on drug policies.
 
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UW-Madison chancellor condemns Hamas, calls for respectful dialogue as Jewish students grapple with attack

UW-Madison Chancellor Jennifer Mnookin is condemning the Hamas attack on Israeli civilians last week, calling for respectful dialogue and a focus on shared values as many Jewish students struggle to reckon with violence against their faith.
On Wednesday, Mnookin joined a small number of college administrators who have spoken out about the attack.

“Related to protest events, the appearance of a speaker or protest group on campus does not constitute the university’s endorsement of the message, nor is the university able to restrict First Amendment protected speech,” UW-Madison spokesperson Kelly Tyrrell said.
 
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The Tuesday protest saw a crowd of students with Palestinian flags in front of the school’s library, with one young woman shouting into a microphone, “Glory to the murders!” and “We will liberate the land — by any means necessary!”
Realize that the Chancellor is Jennifer Mnookin, a liberal from California that has a history of advocating for Critical Race Theory. It was reported that in 2019 she advocated Hunter Biden join the faculty at UCLA as an instructor on drug policies.
There are some sick people in this world that is for sure.
 
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UW-Madison chancellor condemns Hamas, calls for respectful dialogue as Jewish students grapple with attack

UW-Madison Chancellor Jennifer Mnookin is condemning the Hamas attack on Israeli civilians last week, calling for respectful dialogue and a focus on shared values as many Jewish students struggle to reckon with violence against their faith.
On Wednesday, Mnookin joined a small number of college administrators who have spoken out about the attack.

“Related to protest events, the appearance of a speaker or protest group on campus does not constitute the university’s endorsement of the message, nor is the university able to restrict First Amendment protected speech,” UW-Madison spokesperson Kelly Tyrrell said.
When a university supported group advocates killing the university must withdraw support of that group.
 
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When a university supported group advocates killing the university must withdraw support of that group.
“Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves.”
― Abraham Lincoln.

(Also, even the Post notes that some say the chants were about "martyrs" not "murders".)
 
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“Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves.”
― Abraham Lincoln.

(Also, even the Post notes that some say the chants were about "martyrs" not "murders".)
Those who threaten or encourage or vocally approve of murder, any student, any organization, should be immediately removed from school. I don't care if it is not the woke thing to do.

The Tuesday protest saw a crowd of students with Palestinian flags in front of the school’s library, with one young woman shouting into a microphone, “Glory to the murders!” and “We will liberate the land — by any means necessary!”
 
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Those who threaten or encourage or vocally approve of murder, any student, any organization, should be immediately removed from school. I don't care if it is not the woke thing to do.

The Tuesday protest saw a crowd of students with Palestinian flags in front of the school’s library, with one young woman shouting into a microphone, “Glory to the murders!” and “We will liberate the land — by any means necessary!”
They are saying 'Glory to the martyrs'. Watch the video for heaven's sake. 'Glory to the murders' makes zero sense. Personally I think they should all shut up and go home. But thankfully they have a right to support who they like as much as I personally reject their views.
 
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They are saying 'Glory to the martyrs'. Watch the video for heaven's sake. 'Glory to the murders' makes zero sense. Personally I think they should all shut up and go home. But thankfully they have a right to support who they like as much as I personally reject their views.
They can support them but the university should not fund them with tax payer dollars nor allow them any officially recognized capacity.
 
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They are saying 'Glory to the martyrs'. Watch the video for heaven's sake. 'Glory to the murders' makes zero sense. Personally I think they should all shut up and go home. But thankfully they have a right to support who they like as much as I personally reject their views.
If groups were saying "Glory to the Nazi's", would we also be thankful they have the right..?

...Because there's no actual difference between the two besides the scale.
 
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Well...me, I hate what they're supporting. But unlike some of you I will fight for their right to assemble peacefully and exercise their right to free speech.
Fair enough. We love free speech here in America, including the freedom to insult Islam's prophet, and Islam itself.
 
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Fair enough. We love free speech here in America, including the freedom to insult Islam's prophet, and Islam itself.
I'm sure you'll be able to find a few people to meet up and do just that. So you go exercise your right and we'll let others exercise theirs.
 
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The Tuesday protest saw a crowd of students with Palestinian flags in front of the school’s library, with one young woman shouting into a microphone, “Glory to the murders!” and “We will liberate the land — by any means necessary!”
Why does the Post hate the first amendment?
Realize that the Chancellor is Jennifer Mnookin, a liberal from California that has a history of advocating for Critical Race Theory.
Citation needed Post. This sort of tabloid editorializing should be taken with a lump of salt.
It was reported that in 2019 she advocated Hunter Biden join the faculty at UCLA as an instructor on drug policies.
Oh yes! Definite Pulitzer winner this article.
 
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Why does the Post hate the first amendment?

Citation needed Post. This sort of tabloid editorializing should be taken with a lump of salt.

Oh yes! Definite Pulitzer winner this article.
Nazis can and have protested, they need to get a permit but no Nazi group should be sponsored by a university. The should be denounced by the administration.
 
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If groups were saying "Glory to the Nazi's", would we also be thankful they have the right..?
Absolutely. I'm thankful for the First Amendment every day. The antidote to bad speech is good speech.
 
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“Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves.”
― Abraham Lincoln.

(Also, even the Post notes that some say the chants were about "martyrs" not "murders".)
Threats to others are actionable, and not "freedom". No one says they can't continue to chant whatever nonsense they want. What they cannot do is threaten the safety of other students on campus. The University can't silence them as people but is not obligated to support any group advocating violence in any way.
 
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The Tuesday protest saw a crowd of students with Palestinian flags in front of the school’s library, with one young woman shouting into a microphone, “Glory to the murders!” and “We will liberate the land — by any means necessary!”
Realize that the Chancellor is Jennifer Mnookin, a liberal from California that has a history of advocating for Critical Race Theory. It was reported that in 2019 she advocated Hunter Biden join the faculty at UCLA as an instructor on drug policies.
Actually it was "Glory to the martyrs": but it still implies that attacking Israel with thousands of missiles and then entering by land and butchering/raping young people at a music festival is somehow justified, and that is wrong.

“It’s gonna be a call and response. When I say, ‘Glory to the martyrs,’ you say, ‘Glory to the resistance.’ When I say, ‘We will liberate the land,’ you say, ‘By any means necessary,’ ” a leader said to the crowd."

 
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