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It does if the cross is taught correctly. Most people think of Christs death as the death of one man. Actually it was the death of ALL men. 2Cor 5:14
"For the love of Christ controls us, having concluded this, that one died for all, therefore all died;"
See, Christ died for/as us. We died with Him.
Once you see that you died with Christ, then you can believe the scripture when it says in 2Cor 5:18-19 "Now all things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation, namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation."
Now that you see that God never left Christ on the cross but was there reconciling us, the world, you can see who God has forgiven and who God wants.
And who God wants is who God gets.
1 John 3:15 is Johns way of saing that when you have LIFE in you, you won't really hate. It is not an exclusionary statement.
{1 Corinthians 6:9-10
Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men,
nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.}
No, not in that condition. Remember, God will have His way in us. Christ WILL reign.
{Revelation 21:8
But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.}
Remember, fire-God is a consuming fire.
Remember, brimstone is sulfur. Sulfur was always used in antiquity to make things clean for ceremonial use. So, the Lake of Fire is God putting you in Himself and cleaning you until you usefull to Him.
Remember Revelation 2:11 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes will not be hurt by the second death.
Everyone is going to the second death by the Spirit of God. Either us willingly allowing His Spirit to do His work in us or by Him doing His work in us the HARD way.
{The rich man who found himself in hell (Luke 16:1931) was conscious. He was able to feel pain, to thirst, and to experience remorse. He wasnt asleep in the grave; he was in a place of "torment." If hell is a place of knowing nothing or a reference to the grave into which we go at death, Jesus' statements about hell make no sense.}
This is a parable Jesus used to convict the Leadership of their hypocrisy.
Rich man - Leaders, Sanhedrin, scribes & Parisees
Lazarus - general population that felt there was no way to live up to the Parisee's God.
Remember, this is a parable to the Jews. Jesus was sent "only to the lost sheep of Israel" Matt 10:6 and 15:24. He was sent to close the loop-holes in the Law of Moses the Parisees had created that allowed them to do the "letter" of the law without doing the "spirit" of the law. You are not under that law or any of the warnings of judgement that Jesus gave. He was warning of the coming destruction of 70AD when Titus' armies surrounded Jerusalem, burned it to the ground and plowed it under with oxen. In effect, God was closing out the old order of Judaistic ceremonial animal sacrifice for atonement since Jesus was the last Sacrificial Lamb who lifted up and took away the sins of the whole world. Think of the fire that raged in Jerusalem in 70AD when you read the verses you typed below.
"For the love of Christ controls us, having concluded this, that one died for all, therefore all died;"
See, Christ died for/as us. We died with Him.
Once you see that you died with Christ, then you can believe the scripture when it says in 2Cor 5:18-19 "Now all things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation, namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation."
Now that you see that God never left Christ on the cross but was there reconciling us, the world, you can see who God has forgiven and who God wants.
And who God wants is who God gets.
1 John 3:15 is Johns way of saing that when you have LIFE in you, you won't really hate. It is not an exclusionary statement.
{1 Corinthians 6:9-10
Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men,
nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.}
No, not in that condition. Remember, God will have His way in us. Christ WILL reign.
{Revelation 21:8
But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.}
Remember, fire-God is a consuming fire.
Remember, brimstone is sulfur. Sulfur was always used in antiquity to make things clean for ceremonial use. So, the Lake of Fire is God putting you in Himself and cleaning you until you usefull to Him.
Remember Revelation 2:11 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes will not be hurt by the second death.
Everyone is going to the second death by the Spirit of God. Either us willingly allowing His Spirit to do His work in us or by Him doing His work in us the HARD way.
{The rich man who found himself in hell (Luke 16:1931) was conscious. He was able to feel pain, to thirst, and to experience remorse. He wasnt asleep in the grave; he was in a place of "torment." If hell is a place of knowing nothing or a reference to the grave into which we go at death, Jesus' statements about hell make no sense.}
This is a parable Jesus used to convict the Leadership of their hypocrisy.
Rich man - Leaders, Sanhedrin, scribes & Parisees
Lazarus - general population that felt there was no way to live up to the Parisee's God.
Remember, this is a parable to the Jews. Jesus was sent "only to the lost sheep of Israel" Matt 10:6 and 15:24. He was sent to close the loop-holes in the Law of Moses the Parisees had created that allowed them to do the "letter" of the law without doing the "spirit" of the law. You are not under that law or any of the warnings of judgement that Jesus gave. He was warning of the coming destruction of 70AD when Titus' armies surrounded Jerusalem, burned it to the ground and plowed it under with oxen. In effect, God was closing out the old order of Judaistic ceremonial animal sacrifice for atonement since Jesus was the last Sacrificial Lamb who lifted up and took away the sins of the whole world. Think of the fire that raged in Jerusalem in 70AD when you read the verses you typed below.
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