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Featured Understanding the Book of Revelation: "Recapitulation"

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by BABerean2, Sep 22, 2019.

  1. BABerean2

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    Dr. Sam Storms is a graduate of Dallas Theological Seminary, who abandoned the Dispensational doctrine taught by the school before he graduated.
    Below he reveals the parallel structure of texts within the Book of Revelation.

    "recapitulation"


    How Should We Interpret the Book of Revelation?



    Dr. Sam Storms: Sermon Series on the Book of Revelation is found below.
    Revelation: Triumph of The Lamb


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    I have similar views of Revelation. I do think some of the events took place already.

    Ironically, the accounts of the two witnesses have very close parallels in recent (modern) history. I can't even mention it as even Christians will probably go gangsta on me.

    But the coincidences are so many and so uncanny that it really makes you think and makes you wonder. But somehow, it already happened.
     
  3. Douggg

    Douggg anytime rapture, non-dispensationalist, futurist

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    His theory falls apart because all end times bible prophecy has been given to man in segments, in the whole bible, not just Revelation.

    And those segments all focus on the final 7 year 70th week of Daniel 9, during and leading up to it. And it is one generation, not the broad span of Christianity. The end times focus on the parable of the fig tree generation. That specific generation.

    Daniel 7:19-27, for example, is a segment. From the rise of the ten kings and little horn person until the return of Jesus and the Kingdom of God replacing the little horn's kingdom. It does not span the 2000 years of Christianity, but the final 7 years.

    There are timeframes of 1260 days, 3 1/2 days, 42 months, and a time, times, half time, given in the different segments of Revelation, the length of which prevent Revelation from being a recapitulation across the span of Christianity.

    The parable of the fig tree generation in Matthew 24 can not be circumvented, no matter what. It is one specific generation. Matthew 24:15-31 is a segment. It is not complete in and off itself. It has to put together will all of the other end time prophecy segments to get the big picture for that one specific generation.
     
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    I like figs......
    Fulfilled on the 1st century generation of Jews including 70AD........

    Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke's Temple/Jerusalem Discourses harmonized- Poll Thread
    Matthew 24:32

    1451. eggus from a primary verb agcho
    (to squeeze or throttle; akin to the base of 43); near (literally or figuratively, of place or time):--from , at hand, near, nigh (at hand, unto), ready.

    Matthew 24:32
    Yet from the fig-tree be ye learning! the parable:
    Whenever already its branch may be becoming tender, and the leaves may be sprouting<1631>,
    ye are knowing that nigh<1451> the summer
    Mark 13:28

    ‘Yet from the fig-tree, be ye learning the parable.
    When the branch of it tender may be becoming, and may be sprouting<1631> the leaves,
    ye are knowing that nigh is the summer
    Luke 21:

    29 And He told a parable to them. Be seeing the fig-tree and all the trees,
    30 whenever they should be budding<4261> already observing from yourselves
    ye are knowing thru that already nigh is the summer

    Hebrews 8:13
    in the to be saying `New<2537>,' He hath made Old the first.
    The yet being aged and being obsolete nigh<1451> of disappearance

    [Temple 70AD]
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    Revelation 1:3
    Blessed/happy the one reading and the ones hearing the words of the Prophecy and keepings in it having been written/gegrammena <1125> (5772),
    That the Time/Season is nigh<1451>.

    Revelation 22:10
    And he is saying to me "no thou should be sealing the Words of the Prophecy of the Scroll, this.
    That the Time/Season is nigh<1451>

    The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD
    Proof that Matthew 24 was fully fulfilled in 70 AD!
    Also see: Rapture refuted


    History records few events more generally interesting than the destruction of Jerusalem, and the subversion of the Jewish state, by the arms of the Romans. -- Their intimate connexion with the dissolution of the Levitical economy, and the establishment of Christianity in the world ; the striking verification which they afford of so many of the prophecies, both of the Old and New Testament, and the powerful arguments of the divine authority of the Scriptures which are thence derived; .......

    The day on which Titus encompassed Jerusalem, was the feast of the Passover........

    The Temple now presented little more than a heap of ruins................

    In executing the command of Titus, relative to the demolition of Jerusalem, the Roman soldiers not only threw down the buildings, but even dug up their foundations, and so completely leveled the whole circuit of the city, that a stranger would scarcely have known that it had ever been inhabited by human beings. Thus was this great City, which only five months before, had been crowded with nearly two millions of people, who gloried in its impregnable strength, entirely depopulated, and levelled with the ground. And thus, also was our LORD'S prediction, that her enemies should "lay her even with the ground," and "should not leave in her one stone upon another, " (Luke xix. 44.) most strikingly and fully accomplished ! -- This fact is confirmed by Eusebius, who asserts that he himself saw the city lying in ruins ; and Josephus introduces Eleazer as exclaiming "Where is our great city, which, it was believed, GOD inhabited ? It is altogether rooted and torn up from its foundations ; and the only monument of it that remains, is the camp of its destroyers pitched amidst its reliques !"....................................

    The Great City/Harlot/Queen Revelation chapts 17-19

    Revelation 18:8
    Thru this in one day shall be arriving<2240> Her blows,
    death and sorrow and famine.
    And in fire She shall be utterly burned<2618>,
    that strong Lord the GOD, the One judging Her.

    Revelation 14:8
    And another Messenger, second-one follows saying "She falls, She falls, Babylon the Great,
    the out of the wine of the fury of the fornication of her she has given to drink all the nations".
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    No, it is not a parable about the destruction of Jerusalem. It is about Jerusalem, the generation that will produce fruit and say of Jesus blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Jerusalem growing again, it leaves tender.

    The abomination of desolation that Jesus had just finished talking about referring to Daniel, in Daniel 12:4 is for the time of the end when

    4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

    Jerusalem back in the hands of the Jews in 1967.

    The other trees? Those are the nations making up Gog/Magog that will attack Israel in the latter years. That alignment of nations is easy to see. This generation.
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    The events of the segment of Matthew 24:15-31 span only one generation - not across the 2000 years of Christianity. The theory of recapitulation as covering all of Christianity's history is a bust.
     
  6. LittleLambofJesus

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    1 generation from 30ad when Jesus opened up the book of Isaiah to the days of vengeance in 70ad.........
    Futurists aren't doing the Jews any favors by implying Jesus was/is a false Messiah/Prophet.......Preterists attempt to prove to the Jews He wasn't......

    "DAYS OF VENGEANCE" Isaiah 61:2 and Luke 21:22 Revelation

    Isaiah 61:2
    To proclaim the year of the good pleasure of Yahweh,
    And the day of vengeance<5359> of our 'Elohim, To comfort all mourners.

    Luke 4:
    17 the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to Him. Unrolling it, He found the place where it was written:
    21 and He began by saying,
    “Today this Scripture is fulfilled<4137> in your hearing.”

    Isaiah 61:2
    To proclaim the year of the good pleasure of Yahweh,
    And the day of vengeance<5359> of our 'Elohim, To comfort all mourners.

    Luke 21:
    22 That days of vengeance<1557> these are, of the to be fulfilled<4130> all the having been written
    23 “But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days!
    For there will be great Distress in the land and Wrath<3709> upon this people.


    1 Thessalonians 2:

    15 who killed both the Lord Jesus and their own prophets, and have persecuted<1559> us, and they do not please God and are contrary to all men,
    16 forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they may be saved; to fill up their sins always: but the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.

    Revelation 19:2
    “For true and righteous are His judgments, because He has judged the great harlot who corrupted the earth with her fornication;
    and He has avenged <1556> on her the blood of His servants shed by her.”
     
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  7. LittleLambofJesus

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    Ah come on. You can tell us. I promise not to go gangsta on ya.....

    Or start a thread on the CCT board if you feel it is that "way out there"........:)

    Controversial Christian Theology
     
  8. Douggg

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    Come on now. No futurist is implying that Jesus was/is a false Messiah/Prophet. Deal with the fact that the parable of the fig tree is one generation, that of the end times. And the evidence is right before everyone's eyes that it is this generation.
     
  9. keras

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    I agree with Dougg on this issue.
    You must have your head in the sand, if you think that what is happening right now, in our time, isn't leading up to the glorious Return of Jesus.
    Plainly, there is much to happen between now and that great event, Revelation and all the Prophets tell us about it all in great detail. Events and cosmic happenings that cannot be found anywhere in the past.

    The belief that we won't experience any of it, is just wrong, as we are told three times that we must stand firm during it all and endure until the end. Revelation 14:12, Matthew 24:13, 1 Cor 10:13
    I differ from Douggg in this, as he wants God to 'rapture' him to heaven and anytime would do, along with all the born fools who believe that fable. 2 Timothy 4:3-4
     
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    You can certainly believe that Douggg, but I disagree.....
    "THIS GENERATION" in Bible
    Typical response from you.......
    I and many others have shown you your eschatological errors a myriad times on this board and some have put up with a lot of your rude, rash and snarky remarks.
    I for one am done with you........have a nice "future"........

    I recommend a good study on "Gehenna" and the Covenantle parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus, then Revelation will "come alive" for ya......

    Is the "GEHENNA" of Matt 23:33 the "LAKE OF FIRE" in Revelation? Poll thread

    Matthew 23: 33
    "Serpents! brood of vipers! how? ye may be fleeing from the judging<2920> of the Gehenna <1067>



    Lazarus and the Rich Man - Here a little, there a little - Commentary

    Luke 16:24
    And he sounding said "Father Abraham! be thou merciful to-me! and send Lazarus! that he should be dipping the tip of the finger of him of water and should be cooling down the tongue of me
    that I am being anguished in this Flame."

    Revelation 14:11
    And the Smoke of the tormenting of Them is ascending into Ages to-Ages.......... [Ezekiel 39:12/Luke 16:24,26]




    Of course, so is everyone else's on this board.............
     
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    keras Writer of Bible prophecy studies.

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    My posts are supported with Bible quotes. Yours?
    What you and others have shown me, is that you disagree with what the Prophets wrote. You have another plan for our future, maybe a bit 'nicer' that the one that the Prophetic Word informs us about. Will the future happen as you think? Chances for that are between nil and zero.
     
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    Based on Matthew 10:5-7, and Romans 1:16, and Galatians 1:14-18, the Gospel was taken "first" to the Jews for a period of about 7 years before Paul took the Gospel to the Gentiles. This was the 70th week of Daniel during the first century.

    Do you think the angel Gabriel came to reveal the timeline of the Messiah who would fulfill the New Covenant promised to Israel, and Judah, in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and then the angel failed to even mention the New Covenant.

    The following comes from the 1599 Geneva Bible, which is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America.


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    Dan 9:27 And he shal confirme the couenant with many for one weeke: and in the middes of the weeke he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the ouerspreading of the abominations, he shall make it desolate, euen vntill the consummation determined shalbe powred vpon the desolate.


    Daniel 9:27
    And he (a) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to (b) cease, (c) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

    (a) By the preaching of the Gospel he affirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles.

    (b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection.

    (c) Meaning that Jerusalem and the sanctuary would be utterly destroyed because of their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague will be so great, that they will all be astonished at them.

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    Daniel 12:1 was fulfilled in the 1st century by the 7yrs Jewish Wars leading up to 70AD

    Daniel 12:1 and Luke 21 same event?

    The word "TRIBULATION" does not occur in Luke's Gospel.


    Daniel 12:1
    "And in that time/season Michael shall stand-up, the great chief prince, the one standing over sons of thy people. And a time of distress<06869>, which not occurred since to become of a nation until that time. And in that time, thy people escape<4422>, everyone being found written in the scroll. [Luke 21:23-36]

    Luke 21:23
    7 They inquire yet of Him saying “Teacher! when then shall these be being?
    And what the sign whenever may be being about<3195> these to becoming<1096>?

    23“But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days!
    For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people.

    36 “Yet be being vigilant/watching in every season, beseeching that ye should be being strong to be escaping<1628> all these, the being about to be becoming,
    and to stand before the Son of the Man.

    1 Thessalonians 5:3
    For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape<1628>.


    Luke 21:24
    And they shall be falling to mouth of sword and they shall be being led captive into all the nations
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    And Jerusalem shall be being trodden by nations until which may be being filled times of nations.
    [Deuteronomy 28:68/Reve 11:2/13:10]

    Revelation 13:10
    If any to-captivity into captivity is going away.
    If any in sword to be killed, is binding him in sword to be killed.

    Here is the endurance<5281> and the faith of the Saints
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    Visual Timeline of the Roman-Jewish War ARTchive
    TRACKING THE FIRST JEWISH REVOLT FROM

    CHRONOLOGY IMMEDIATELY SURROUNDING THE WAR

    Stage 1: Murder of James the Just, "Opposition High Priest" ; Irrevocable Split: 62
    Stage 2: General Revolt in Jerusalem ; Zealot Occupation of Masada: August-September 66
    Stage 3: The Campaign of Cestius Gallus and the Defeat of the Twelfth Legion: October-November 66
    Stage 4: End of Collaborative Government, Priesthood ; General Flight: November 66 - March 67
    Part 6: Vespasian Subdues Northern and Western Palestine: December 66 - December 68
    Part 7: Three-way Power Struggle within Jerusalem After Roman Retreat: January 68 - May 70
    Part 8: Romans Breach City Walls and Leave Jerusalem Desolate: May 10 - September 10, 70

    The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD
    Proof that Matthew 24 was fully fulfilled in 70 AD!
    Also see:
    Rapture refuted


    The sceptre of Judah, i . e . its civil and political authority, the life of its religion, and the glory of its temple, were departed. It was, in short, morally and judicially dead. The eagle, whose ruling instinct is rapine and murder, as fitly represented the fierce and sanguinary temper of the Romans, and, perhaps, might be intended to refer also to the principal figure on their ensigns, which, however obnoxious to the Jews, were at length planted in the midst of the holy city, and finally on the temple itself.

    The day on which Titus encompassed Jerusalem, was the feast of the Passover ; and it is deserving of the very particular attention of the reader, that this was the anniversary of that memorable period in which the Jews crucified their Messiah ! At this season multitudes came up from all the surrounding country, and from distant parts, to keep the festival. How suitable and how kind, then, was the prophetic admonition of our LORD, and how clearly he into futurity when he said "Let not them that are in the countries enter into Jerusalem." Luke xxi. 21.

    Nevertheless, the city was at this time crowded with Jewish strangers, and foreigners from all parts, so that the whole nation may be considered as having been shut up in one prison, preparatory to the execution of the Divine vengeance ;
     
  14. Douggg

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    I don't think the 1599 Geneva Bible had all those mis-spelled words.

    Making the same post over and over doesn't make it any more right than the first time you posted it. The 70 weeks are determined on Daniel's people and Jerusalem. Go read Ezekiel 39:23-26, Jesus Himself speaking in the text. The 70 weeks are over when He returns, and after they have borne their shame for having rejected Him for the past 2000 years. The 7 years following Gog/Magog in the text of Ezekiel 39 is the Daniel 9:27 7 years.

    btw, have you ever noticed that so many of the speakers making bible commentary like the young guy in the video - have a bookcase full of books as a backdrop to give the impression that he is so knowledgeable? And he still gets it wrong.
     
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    Douggg anytime rapture, non-dispensationalist, futurist

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    Daniel 12:1 and Revelation 12:7-10 is the same event. Michael and his angels cast Satan and his angels down from the second heaven, which Satan has been accusing the Jews of rejecting Jesus for the past 2000 years. In the middle part of the 7 years, after a stint of thinking the Antichrist is the messiah before seeing the light when he betrays them, they will embrace Jesus and salvation, and the kingdom of God.

    Revelation 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

    8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

    9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

    10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
     
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    You haven't properly identified the segments of Luke 21.

    Luke 21:24 begins a new segment. Which covers the past 2000 years. I am trying to help you guys in how to understand the bible regarding the end times. All of the end times prophecies in the bible have been presented to man in segments.

    24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
     
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    Yeah, there outta be a "Law"

    John 21:25

    And there are also many other things that Jesus did, which if they were written one by one,
    I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that would be written. Amen.

    http://www.kingdombiblestudies.org/tablecontents.htm

    Kindgdom Bible Studies Lambs Book of Life Part 1

    THE BOOK OF THE LIFE OF THE LAMB


    "And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his heads the names of blasphemy. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world" (Rev. 13:1,8).

    According to the Emphatic Diaglott the correct rendering of the latter part of this passage is: "The Book of the Life of the Lamb." Now, what is meant by this term – THE BOOK OF THE LIFE OF THE LAMB? The wise man said, "...of the making of many books there is no end..." (Eccl. 12:12).

    The book stores are filled to overflowing today with all types of books dealing with every aspect of earthly life.
    Even in the church world there are books setting forth every kind of viewpoint relating to God, the Bible, doctrine, Christian experience, and church order.
    However the subject material of most of these books largely contains a message of religious tradition and spiritual death.
    But God is also producing a book – a book containing a message of life. For the past two millenniums God, by His Holy Spirit, has been writing portions of this Book in the minds and hearts of His people.
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    Kindgdom Bible Studies Revelation Series Part 1


    The mark of the beast. Armageddon. The Four Horsemen. The false prophet. Babylon the great. Falling stars, stinging locusts, and giant hailstones. The seven last plagues. The bottomless pit. The lake of fire. These images of terror and catastrophe from the book of Revelation have greatly influenced the thinking of millions of Christians through the ages.
    Even the secular press uses images such as "Armageddon" and "four horsemen of the Apocalypse" to describe calamities in our world. Despite 1900 years of fascination with the book of Revelation, John’s letter to the seven Churches of Asia continues to be misunderstood. And badly misinterpreted!

    One misconception shared by some is that the Revelation has nothing of importance to say to us. It’s considered to be merely a bizarre piece of first-century writing with no relevance for today. Another wrong idea is that the Revelation is a code book describing a specific outline of history written in advance.
    Countless interpreters have tried to "decode" the book from a historical perspective to find all the major world events of the past 1900 years.
    Others interpret it more literally as a handbook for predicting the cataclysmic events that will bring the final wrath of God and the end of the world.
    The claims of Christian groups from the early church to the present — that the Revelation pinpoints the events, personalities, and time periods of "the end" — have all failed.

    This should be a caution to believers for using the book of Revelation as a predictive handbook. Other people’s interpretation of the book of Revelation is based on the "Pan Theory" — it’s all going to pan out in the end!
    Beloved brethren, the fact is, it’s not panning out the way the end-time prognosticators are projecting!

    Through the years I have ministered the Word in Bible studies, seminars, and church services of various types. When there has been a question and answer session, or when opportunity was granted for people to request teaching along a particular line, the most often requested subject has been — THE BOOK OF REVELATION!
    I have met people who were babes in Christ, carnal Christians whose lives were a mess, they had incredible problems and needs, including deliverance,
    and instead of prayer or counsel or messages that would help them overcome and grow up in Christ, they wanted me to teach them the book of Revelation!
    "Yeah, brother, that’s for me, lay it on me, I want the book of Revelation!"
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    I annotate 1Thessalonians 5:3, "peace and safety" on my chart, after the person has become the Antichrist. You can click on the chart to zoom in.

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    Hello Douggg. Kewl chart.......Any way to make it conform to a 1st century fulfillment?

    I prefer Preterist and Idealist charts, preferable, 1st century/70AD....no offense........

    Various Charts @ PreteristArchive.com,


    PRETERIST CHARTS

    Transition Period of the Testaments
    Old Testament Era

    Transition Period From Old to New
    New Testament History (to AD60s)


    After Adam and Eve Sinned

    'Moses gives Israel God's Law

    Jesus' ministry begins at age 30

    Jesus' death on the cross

    God sends destruction on Jerusalem in 70AD
    Old Testament Era

    Transition Period From Old to New
    New Testament History (to AD60s)

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    Rev 16:19
    Now the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell. And great Babylon was remembered before God, to give her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of His wrath.


     
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    I don't think so. If you mouse over my chart in the lower right hand corner, then click, you can see better the 7th vial poured out and the world split into three parts, by the earthquake.

    I went and looked through those before. But I couldn't find anything comparable to my chart.

    I show the roles that the person goes through. Little horn; then the prince who shall come; then the Antichrist; then the revealed man of sin; then the beast.
     
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