Running2win
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I have been trying to study this for the longest time and I just can't seem to come to peace with any position. I want to make sure the position is correct and not just go by what I would prefer (which would be pre-trib of course, though it would be cool to see the events of Revelation play out). I would love to hear arguments from both sides even though I heard most of them and still can't come to a conclusion that satisfies my conscience. With the post-trib side, it usually denies dispensationalism and that the church replaced Israel which I do not agree with. Yet with the pre-trib side, it seems as if I need to do a lot of mental gymnastics around the scriptures to prove it. I couldn't really find a resting place on either camp so I'm just hear to here arguments from both sides, mid-trib, pre-wrath, and amillennialism too.
33 years saved and studying prophecy. Started as Pre-trib, went to Post-trib, and now believe the Pre-wrath viewpoint is correct and ties all the Scriptures together the best.
The best way to know the truth in a nut shell, is just read and study the Olivet Discourse- Mat 24-25, Mark 13, and Luke 21. There is info in Luke 17:22-37 too. This is really all you need to know and is taught by Jesus Himself.
Many say they are trusting in Christ for their salvation, but unfortunately few believe the outline He gives us. That is why the confusion. They lack the faith to say with confidence that what He says is true.
I am not afraid to and I stake my life on it going down just like He says it will. No hidden agenda, no secret interpretations, just believing simply it will happen as He says. So simple a child could understand the basics- just like salvation. So what are the basics?
BIBLE PROPHECY 101 BY JESUS
Any outline or time frame of when Jesus comes back must line up with what He gives us in His Olivet Discourse. If it don't, we do not have the truth. Just that simple. He has told us everything beforehand- in a nutshell, everything that we need to know about His second coming. Short and sweet.
All you have to do is sit down write out the key events He says that must happen before He returns. If He comes before these things happen, He is lumping Himself in with the false Christ that will come before He shows up, thus making Himself a false prophet. Right? Well we know this is impossible, so it must take place exactly as He says it will, straight out of His own mouth.
Paul in 1st Th. 4-5, 2nd 1-2, 1st Cor 15, was basing his teachings on the Olivet Discourse outline of Jesus. So was John. Just more info, but following the same outline and time frame. So start with the outline of Jesus, go to Paul, and then when you understand how they fit together, go to Revelation.
Before you go to Revelation, go to Daniel, because Jesus makes a point that the AD- spoken of by the prophet Daniel, will be seen. Also, in order to understand the beasts- animals of Revelation, you got to understand what Daniel is talking about. Daniel and Revelation go hand and hand.
These are the basics, and you can keep it simple and just follow the outline Jesus gives and reading what Paul says, without trying to blend all the passages of Revelation and Daniel. This is perfectly fine if you want to keep it simple and not confuse things. Just beware of any teacher or person that don't teach it like Jesus does.
3As He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”
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