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Uncharted Territory, rapid warming greatly exceeds models' forecasts

The Barbarian

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And he went to his grave believing global warming was going to threaten our comfort zones, didn't he?
I have no evidence to show what do you have?

Arrhenius was the first to use the principles of physical chemistry to estimate the extent to which increases in the atmospheric carbon dioxide are responsible for the Earth's increasing surface temperature. His work played an important role in the emergence of modern climate science.
So nothing about going to his grave believing global warming was going to threaten our comfort zones? Do you have anything at all to support your claim?
 
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So nothing about going to his grave believing global warming was going to threaten our comfort zones? Do you have anything at all to support your claim?

In his last years he wrote both textbooks and popular books, trying to emphasize the need for further work on the topics he discussed. In September 1927, he came down with an attack of acute intestinal catarrh and died on 2 October. He was buried in Uppsala.

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In his last years he wrote both textbooks and popular books, trying to emphasize the need for further work on the topics he discussed.
Show us his comment that global warming was going to threaten our comfort zones.
 
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Dang, 52°C is 126°F. That is scorching.
Isn't that drop dead kind of temperature?

If there's less people, then there's less pollutants being used - not the solution we were looking for tho.
 
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Isn't that drop dead kind of temperature?

If there's less people, then there's less pollutants being used - not the solution we were looking for tho.
Yeah, 52C is deadly, and depopulation is bad. Also, this is a bit of an older post.
 
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Is it fair to say this is due to sloppy scientific work?

Is it fair to say this is due to science being myopic?
Given how bad big chunks of the US and canada were this year plus other countries with extreme heat your just in denail and wrong?
 
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I never understood how carbon dioxide representing a mere 0.04% of total atmospheric gases and having the lowest warming potential index of 1 could be responsible for warming. To me CO2 cannot be the main cause of warming at best a minor contributor.

I read recently that the measurement used in showing warming are situated on top ( flat tar roofs) of building within cities, the bulk of the measurements are are from these temperature recording devices... go figure why....

I noticed also that the trillions of dollars generated from carbon taxes go somewhere but where and in what proportions?...who pockets this money?

most of the carbon emissions are from China, Pakistan, India, yet they continue and no one intervenes.

CO2 has become a cult and is not based on science, now people think CO2 is toxic. Yet the minimum concentration of atmospheric CO2 for vegetation to grow is only half of the current value or about 200 PPM, we are close to that minimum.

since CO2 has increased in the atmosphere also vegetation coverage has increased in proportion, if you visit the greenhouse of some botanical gardens, they inject extra CO2 for a total of 1200 ppm or 3 x the current atmospheric values to promote vegetation growth.... no need to explain that without vegetation we would all die quickly.

All these facts I have researched and verified many years ago, I encourage people to do the same.
how can cyanide that only takes up 0.00001% of the body kill you!. the dose makes the poison, and while CO2 has a low score, it stays there far longer in the atmospher and traps heat over a longer period then water and such.
 
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Given how bad big chunks of the US and canada were this year plus other countries with extreme heat your just in denail and wrong?

So the models were correct?
 
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I still think there's hope.

A recent Ai study analysed 1500 climate policies and isolated the toop 63 that worked the most effectively in reducing climate change - and isolated out the variables. https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adl6547 They’ve now identified STP’s - or Social Tipping Points - like a cultural “Butterfly Event” where tiny actions can shift systems and have huge consequences. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1900577117#sec-1 The exponential deployment of renewable energy is now being fed into emissions models, which are now less extreme in outcome. A simple framework for likely climate projections applied to tropical width - Climate Dynamics In short - while we must ‘Buckle up’ because we’re going over 1.5 (Johan Rockstrom) - it’s not the end of the world. Climatologist Simon Clark explains.
 
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