Dear all,
First franklin, I think you need to define what you mean by free will.
Second, closer, Just becase one cannot unsderstand or harmonize the two [free will and God's sovereign will] doesn't mean they can't harmonize.
Everything we choose is chosen from a will based in the context of our lives. Each life is different and so sometimes we choose differently or we chose the same but for different reasons. I might choose to root for a team because i like a certain player but my wife may be rooting for that tean because she likes the colors of the uniforms.
So as you advocate free will, what is the freeness of it?
But given that we seem to make choices based on our own internal reasonings [for the most part], we say we are free from outside interference. But that is so only because we are in the very context of those influences and basically unaware of most of them.
Even so, even if i agree with your assessment that we have a freedom to choose, there still remains a great obstacle for you to remove. It is WHY we choose God, why we trust Jesus. Now if you all would please give your own personal testimonies on those WHY's, I will be glad to show you WHY you chose to be a part of the body of Christ, and WHY those in hell are not.
And the truth of the matter [which is my quest to show] is that all the glory for our salvation belongs to God, for He is the WHY of our salvation, yet not the WHY for their damnation. I will hope to show that our boast is totally in the Lord Jesus and the Father through the Spirit and all because He IS the one who SAVES, and He SAVES all those HE loves.
Does His love fail? Does His love stop? Does He love those He has damned?
Answers please if you will and I am looking forward to your testimonies on WHY you trust Jesus?
First franklin, I think you need to define what you mean by free will.
Second, closer, Just becase one cannot unsderstand or harmonize the two [free will and God's sovereign will] doesn't mean they can't harmonize.
Everything we choose is chosen from a will based in the context of our lives. Each life is different and so sometimes we choose differently or we chose the same but for different reasons. I might choose to root for a team because i like a certain player but my wife may be rooting for that tean because she likes the colors of the uniforms.
So as you advocate free will, what is the freeness of it?
But given that we seem to make choices based on our own internal reasonings [for the most part], we say we are free from outside interference. But that is so only because we are in the very context of those influences and basically unaware of most of them.
Even so, even if i agree with your assessment that we have a freedom to choose, there still remains a great obstacle for you to remove. It is WHY we choose God, why we trust Jesus. Now if you all would please give your own personal testimonies on those WHY's, I will be glad to show you WHY you chose to be a part of the body of Christ, and WHY those in hell are not.
And the truth of the matter [which is my quest to show] is that all the glory for our salvation belongs to God, for He is the WHY of our salvation, yet not the WHY for their damnation. I will hope to show that our boast is totally in the Lord Jesus and the Father through the Spirit and all because He IS the one who SAVES, and He SAVES all those HE loves.
Does His love fail? Does His love stop? Does He love those He has damned?
Answers please if you will and I am looking forward to your testimonies on WHY you trust Jesus?
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