Two NYPD executed

[PreachersWife2004]

You can want to see better police practices, and want police to be held to better standards, without wanting to see police shot.

I don't consider that to be anti-police.

The ones shouting
"What do we want?"
"Dead cops!"
"When do we want it?"
"Now!"

Are the anti-police crowd, and they're drowning everyone else out.

 

[ContraMundum]

I don't know if this is a problem that can be fixed easily.

I am from the US but live abroad. When I see American law enforcement practice I understand the very heavy-handed approach is based on previous dangerous experience with criminals- but it seems to carry a very high risk of shooting innocents that I'm not so sure is acceptable to many in the public anymore. I mean a 12yo kid was shot to death for holding a toy pistol. That's just out of control and unacceptable.

A friend of mine was watching an episode of "Cops" recently and commented that to me later that it looks like the US is one right-wing government away from being a fascist or police state. This tendency- in his opinion- has been so gradual that people have by and large accepted it. Interesting observation I thought.

 

[He is Risen 72]

What a strange coincidence that the gunman was both black and Muslim. I never would have guessed.

 

[Bedford]

2 NYPD cops shot dead ‘execution style’ as ‘revenge’ for Garner | New York Post

This is a sad and disguising tragedy.

However, with all that has recently happened, who here thought that this crisis would not escalate? The repercussions will be harsh and this will get bad. Can anybody say police state>

 

[PreachersWife2004]

This is a sad and disguising tragedy.

However, with all that has recently happened, who here thought that this crisis would not escalate? The repercussions will be harsh and this will get bad. Can anybody say police state>

This "crisis" escalated because of race baiters inciting these people.

Repercussions because police, for the most part, are doing their job??

MORE people will die, and it won't be because of a few bad cops. It will be because of statements like yours.

 

[Bedford]

This "crisis" escalated because of race baiters inciting these people.

Repercussions because police, for the most part, are doing their job??

MORE people will die, and it won't be because of a few bad cops. It will be because of statements like yours.

Sorry you don't seem to see the reality of my post.

Too bad for you.

Maybe if cops didn't go around killing and injuring innocent people, then getting away with it, we would not see this kind of thing happen.

It is defense of some indefensible actions, like you are doing, which may see more people killed.

 

[Bedford]

This "crisis" escalated because of race baiters inciting these people.

Repercussions because police, for the most part, are doing their job??

MORE people will die, and it won't be because of a few bad cops. It will be because of statements like yours.

Oh, the irony: Tucker Carlson blames Al Sharpton for ‘whipping up race hatred’ after NYPD deaths

Some race baiting for you

 

[Bedford]

This "crisis" escalated because of race baiters inciting these people.

Repercussions because police, for the most part, are doing their job??

MORE people will die, and it won't be because of a few bad cops. It will be because of statements like yours.

I wonder if there is a link between this cop killer and these cop killers?

The Chilling Anti-Government, Cliven Bundy-Loving Facebook Posts of the Alleged Las Vegas Shooters | Mother Jones

Do you have an opinion, PreachersWife2004?


Could it be race-baiting? I don't know, do you?

 

[HannahT]

Sorry you don't seem to see the reality of my post.

Too bad for you.

Maybe if cops didn't go around killing and injuring innocent people, then getting away with it, we would not see this kind of thing happen.

It is defense of some indefensible actions, like you are doing, which may see more people killed.

More people get killed, and tensions will get worse.

What tends to happen after that is no 'discussion' that people are asking for will happen.

So, should we conclude that means they really don't want a discussion?

Sadly, that is a reality many will see too.

That's bad for everyone.

 

[HannahT]

I wonder if there is a link between this cop killer and these cop killers?

The Chilling Anti-Government, Cliven Bundy-Loving Facebook Posts of the Alleged Las Vegas Shooters | Mother Jones

Do you have an opinion, PreachersWife2004?


Could it be race-baiting? I don't know, do you?

All that proves is racketing things UP, and taking the black and white thinking to the extreme isn't effective. It causes more harm than good.

Yet, who is asking for it to stop?

What I see is normally today is, "WELL look the other side does it TOO!"

So, now we use teenage tactics? Seriously?!

When do the adult discussions start. Just wondering.

We certainly can't rely on leaders, media, and government officials to show us the way. Their eating this stuff up, and society gets to pay for it.

 

[Bedford]

All that proves is racketing things UP, and taking the black and white thinking to the extreme isn't effective. It causes more harm than good.

Yet, who is asking for it to stop?

What I see is normally today is, "WELL look the other side does it TOO!"

So, now we use teenage tactics? Seriously?!

When do the adult discussions start. Just wondering.

We certainly can't rely on leaders, media, and government officials to show us the way. Their eating this stuff up, and society gets to pay for it.

I see you did not understand my post. Perhaps some of the other adults will.

 

[HannahT]

I see you did not understand my post. Perhaps some of the other adults will.

Mature adults point out the discrepancies that they see, and are able to so do clearly.

So, instead of talking down to me why can't we start there.

How does showing extremists from the other side, and their dangerous actions prove your point?

Everyone knows when you racket things up the nuts come out in numbers.

Things have been racketing up for a long time, and warnings over this type of thing have been mentioned many times. Unless you live under a rock - or choose to ignore it of course.

Protesting can be very effective, but when it turns into more rage than principal? Its not.

This isn't rocket science.

 

[variant]

More people get killed, and tensions will get worse.

What tends to happen after that is no 'discussion' that people are asking for will happen.

So, should we conclude that means they really don't want a discussion?

Sadly, that is a reality many will see too.

That's bad for everyone.

The tension won't go away by ignoring the problems and enforcing a status-quo it either. If basic grievances continue to be ignored, it will continue until an event triggers violence.

We are having this discussion now whether we like it or not.

Blaming the people who are upset at the police and protesting peacefully/speaking out in our basic democratic manner for the actions of those who turn to violence (or promote violence) doesn't solve the problem, it actually inflames it, and it is sickening.

This "crisis" escalated because of race baiters inciting these people.

Repercussions because police, for the most part, are doing their job??

MORE people will die, and it won't be because of a few bad cops. It will be because of statements like yours.

People aren't allowed to speak their minds, or protest the injustices they see because others may to too far and turn to violence?

You are who I am talking about. Disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

[variant]

I don't consider that to be anti-police.

Are the anti-police crowd, and they're drowning everyone else out.

Maybe to you who doesn't want to see the other side of the argument as having any valid points.

 

[FreeSpirit74]

So this killer shot a black cop and an asian cop.

The other cop was Hispanic.

 

[FreeSpirit74]

What did the mayor say that was so disrespectful?

NYPD cops turn backs to de Blasio at hospital - NY Daily News

 

[NamelessHero]

I'm sorry that they were killed, and I'm sorry that someone thought killing innocent people is the only way to change things. BUT I understand why that person killed those cops. Cops are a threat to peace, but that doesn't mean you should go around killing them! These people had families! And how do we know that these cops were bad? Did the murderer know them?
What's the point of being against them if you're going to be just as evil?

 

[variant]

NYPD cops turn backs to de Blasio at hospital - NY Daily News

Again what did he actually say? Did he really call for violence?

I think it is sickening to blame people who merely disagree with you as responsible for another persons evil.

This is why no one speaks out against the police in the halls of power, they get attacked mercilessly by the powerful among the police and their supporters.

 

[SuperCloud]

So, basically, the NYPD turning their backs on the NYC mayor are acting like all the civilian protestors protesting about the police?

And basically the NYPD and LAPD are going to use this one incident for political reasons also, like the protestors have used the Michael Brown incident for political reasons (except cops kill far more black males [whether justifiable or not] than the other way around)?

And basically, white people that view the police as the army charged with monitor, intimidating, and keeping black people in line are going to use this to promote faith in local government and increasing the size of the local government workforces through more police; while at the same time decrying the tyrannical injustices the Federal law enforcement agencies bring when they investigate (and dare question) upper-middle-class and wealthy white Americans, and investigate local police forces that are accused of systematically violating the civil rights of black and Latino Americans?

I also suspect plenty of white Americans were hoping these two assassinated cops were both white rather than Latino and Asian.

And on the other side the Michael Brown jihadi supporters are going to be too blind to see how problematic it is to be getting riled up over physically violent men that get harmed or killed by white cops. Plenty of little black children (and white at times too) are unjustly injured or killed by these violent male types out gunning at one another with no care for who they hit. No nationally organized protests to demean and shame these violent black males though. As if it never occurred to anyone that if your female population stopped providing these men with oral sex, companionship, and constant praise... more male would stop seeking that path and instead seek to become military officers, Federal agents, optometrists, construction managers, CPA's and so on. The violence would make a dramatic downward turn.

But alas... were would a "us against them" police force be without a constant enemy they need to fight? Which might explain why so many in law enforcement have the self righteous, cocky, judgmental personality traits that the "thugs" and "gangsters" have.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

Maybe to you who doesn't want to see the other side of the argument as having any valid points.

Right now the anti-cop argument has no valid points, unless you count "kill pigs" as a valid point.