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Featured Truth and Deceptions

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by Jess347, Nov 25, 2020.

  1. Jess347

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    No I don't believe that the penalty of death has changed, just the means in which death was achieved. In the old testament God calls himself Jealous and Vengeful and Angry and instructs humans to murder one another as punishment, however Christ describes his father in a completely different way. From Christ's teaching about the nature of his Father, God the most high, they God of the OT and NT sound like different beings entirely.
     
  2. Jess347

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    Hey Bella,
    Definitely educated and insightful words there, thank you.

    My teacher has a website, if you fancy taking a look. www.cwscgroup.org
    By the sounds of it I think you might find it interesting talking with him and him you.

    I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

    Kind regards,
    Jess
     
  3. bèlla

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    Thank you for the compliment Jess and the link. I’ll check it out. :)

    Yours in His Service,

    ~bella
     
  4. Jess347

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    I do agree, that there are possible satanic deceptions in science, but do you not think that there could have been any satanic influence to man, in the time of the recording of the bible or the time and time again that scriptures were re-written and translated? How about the Roman empire? Wouldn't that be a perfect place for Satan to mingle deception, among the teaching of the Father?
     
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  6. d taylor

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    Not according to the Bible, The Bibles states a few time that the word in the Bible are inspired.

    But there are no contradictions in the Bible between Bible areas. Areas where man has change parts of the Bible are known.

    The Bible does contradicts history, science etc...
     
  7. Jess347

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    Thank you for the reply.

    So what do you think about Christianity and the bible?

    What is your approach?

    Jess.

     
  8. Jess347

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    Do you not think, there is a chance that parts were inspired by forces infiltrating the Father?

     
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  10. d taylor

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    It is seen when a demon tries to participate in telling people about The Messiah that is not taken well. And is stopped.

    Jesus did not accept endorsements from demons. A demon once publicly acknowledged the Lord as “Jesus of Nazareth...the Holy One of God” (Luke 4:31-37). Demons always and immediately recognized Christ (Luke 4:41; 8:28; Matt 8:29; Mark 1:24; 3:11; 5:7). Nonetheless, when demons sanctioned Jesus, He told them to “shut up,” and sent them away.

    Also Acts 16:16-19


    Do you have an area that you are thinking about
     
  11. d taylor

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    You and other science people love playing the computer card.
     
  12. d taylor

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    I will say this just out of curiosity, i looked at the website you posted a link to. And it is a very bad designed site, the clarity for reading what is posted is very poor designed and very hard to read. Not worth he effort to go through to read what is written.
     
  13. Cis.jd

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    What is in the Apostle's Creed defines what the faith is.

    Christianity has to be more than just "this is what the Bible says". I believe it's works are supposed to be strong on the humanitarian spectrum than a political one.

    I think Christians should recognize the importance of knowledge and science because if someone reads the Bible and preaches it in an uneducated way it just makes Christianity look absurd and false.
     
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  14. Jess347

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    I don't mean demons, I mean Lucifer or Satan and I have come to understand they are two separate entities.
    Isn't it possible that during the time the Roman empire adopted Christianity as it's state religion, they could have added, changed or twisted areas with the goading of satanic influence?

     
  15. Jess347

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    Surely the experise of someone's computing skills is far less important than the content itself?
     
  16. Psalm 27

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    How does Jesus describe The Father?

    John 10:30
     
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  17. d taylor

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    God has stopped communicating to people through prophets of Israel after the last apostle died. God chose to communicate now to people through His written recorded word. At the time people did not know this would go own for 2000+ years.

    But since God now has chosen to communicate through His written recorded word and this being the absolute only way a person knows about God etc..

    I simply do not believe an all powerful God would allow this method of communication to be tampered with, peoples eternal destiny rest on the Bible and what is stated in pages of this book.

    What satan has attempted to do can easily be seen in the many false gospels written.

    The alternative writings about Jesus bear the names of such prominent early Christians as Peter, Thomas, Mary Magdalene, Judas, James, and Andrew. Some of these writings purport to contain "secret" teachings of Jesus, to recount his childhood, or to fill in other gaps in this story. Some contradict the New Testament.
     
  18. d taylor

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    It is not about computer skills, but the ability to present information in a clear readable way. Just like i am able to write to you, you can easily read what i am writing (excluding my bad writing skills), but the text is easily readable. Not competing with images in the background.

    Did not mean to be overly critical but being an ex-graphic designer the website just was hard to read what is written.
     
  19. Jess347

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    John 5:19
    "Therefore Jesus answered and was saying to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever the Father does, these things the Son also does in like manner."

    John 1:1
    "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

    John 15:10
    "If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love."



    There seems a dramatic change of perspective and what is considered "just" from Old to New Testament. God is perfect, why would a perfect being have negative and destructive human emotions and actions like jealousy, rage, revenge.... seems odd that the Father, would choose to instruct violence and revenge and then decide, no actually, I'll send down my Son and show that people that I am love!?!

    Chirst does not kill or murder, as were the orders of the OT God to the people. If Christ and the Father are one, wouldn't his "just" actions be the same as the God of the OT?
    Why would The father, a being of devine wisdom, all powerful, all knowing, all loving and all just, command humans to slay whole tribes, kill man, woman and infant? Doesn't sound loving or just to me, Sounds like Satanic instruction/infiltration/deception.
     
  20. Jess347

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    I can read it...
    If it's not worth the effort, do you really want to know... must everything be easy?

     
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