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Trump Slams ABC for Reporting His Mistaken Statement that Dorian Could Affect Alabama

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Hillary could have an affair with Donald, too.... similar odds.

Reminds me of this:

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The fact is a President is not qualified to speak on the subject and should defer to those who are.
Yeah, tell that to Al Gore. And the 20ish Democrat presidential candidates who are authorities on nothing. And while we're talking about 'sharpie-gate', let's not forget the hockey-stick graph that was a complete fabrication.
 
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When it comes to a choice between Trump and the NWS.... I’ll take my chances with the NWS, thank you.:swoon:
Do you always bet on a loser?
 
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You mean they didn’t accurately predict Dorian would demolish much of the Bahamas and roll over Cape Hatteras as a cat 2? It’s good to know they missed that one. Gosh. Imagine how bad it would be if the Bahamas actually took a direct hit.
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Isn't it easy to predict what would happen after the fact? Funny thing was they missed how Dorian would stall over the Bahamas and strengthen, they also thought at one time that it would cross Florida into the Gulf. Once it was apparent it wouldn't, they went with the right projections. They didn't know if it would slam into coastal Georgia, or South Carolina first, either. They got plenty wrong on this one, as they get plenty wrong on most hurricanes. Take it from one who watched hurricanes a lot, living in Louisiana much of my younger life.
 
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And as I've already pointed out, the forecast he showed was obsolete even at the time of his tweet. The storm was moving away from Alabama, not towards it. The threat to Alabama was shrinking, not, as Trump said, growing. He made a mistake and no amount of spin on your part or his will change that.

ProTip: Making stuff up doesn't save face if the people you're conning know you're making it up.
Hindsight. 2020.
 
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I know this sounds absolutely impossible to believe, Jesse, but there actually are folks who listen to what Donald Trump says, despite his habit of lying & being dead wrong, & they believe him.
You know, I don't care who the president is, if I want to know the weather forecast, I don't listen to the president. And I don't consider him a liar or an expert on everything. I didn't consider Obama an expert on most things. Trump, at least, knows business. And knows where to find advisers. When I helped elect him, I didn't expect he would be the first perfect president, either.
I don't listen to celebrities on climate change (or much of anything), the pope on immigration, or Democrats on gun control, either.
 
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Is it not important that when the President is addressing the nation with a warming about the approaching hurricane that he should have the latest forecast at hand? Not one from days prior? It is irresponsible is it not? And then to double down on his mistake instead of correcting it?
Well, he wasn't addressing the nation. Most news outlets don't even bother to carry his remarks unless he makes a mistake. And it seems like someone advised him with old info. I agree, he could say he was given old info, but folks like you usually don't accept what he says. After decrying racism and white nationalism, all I heard from the left was "he didn't really mean it". So why bother.
 
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Isn't it easy to predict what would happen after the fact? Funny thing was they missed how Dorian would stall over the Bahamas and strengthen, they also thought at one time that it would cross Florida into the Gulf. Once it was apparent it wouldn't, they went with the right projections. They didn't know if it would slam into coastal Georgia, or South Carolina first, either. They got plenty wrong on this one, as they get plenty wrong on most hurricanes. Take it from one who watched hurricanes a lot, living in Louisiana much of my younger life.

Dorian's track was influenced by a high pressure system to its (IIRC) north and east that, itself, was morphing and moving southwest. The slower Dorian moved and the more time went on, the more time this high pressure zone had to get out of the way and allow Dorian to turn north. By the time Trump made his tweet, the storm had already started turning north - there was basically no going back at that point. As to how sharply it would turn would depend on how quickly it and the high pressure zone moved around each other, but there was nothing there to push it back to the west.


And knows where to find advisers.

I guess that's why he's had such high turnover and why he's had a hard time recruiting replacements...

Well, he wasn't addressing the nation.

Uhh, posting on a public Twitter account as the President of the United States, that's exactly what he's doing.

Most news outlets don't even bother to carry his remarks unless he makes a mistake. And it seems like someone advised him with old info.

So it's not his fault? It's an advisor's fault? But you just said that he "knows where to find advisers"

I agree, he could say he was given old info, but folks like you usually don't accept what he says. After decrying racism and white nationalism, all I heard from the left was "he didn't really mean it". So why bother.

If he copped to making a mistake, I don't think he'd get much argument from the left.
 
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Well, he wasn't addressing the nation. Most news outlets don't even bother to carry his remarks unless he makes a mistake. And it seems like someone advised him with old info. I agree, he could say he was given old info, but folks like you usually don't accept what he says. After decrying racism and white nationalism, all I heard from the left was "he didn't really mean it". So why bother.
I am pretty sure he’d gain a lot more credibility and respect with “folks like me” if he had the integrity to admit his mistakes.
 
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The egg will be on our faces when we find out that Trump secretly sent Herman Cain with a nuclear bomb to Mobile.

'YOU JUST MISHEARD ME. I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG. THE MISTAKE WAS ALL YOURS.'

Back in reality, the hurricane has moved on. Why can't Trump?
 
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Now this was worth getting out of bed for.

According to U.S. Code Title 18, “Whoever knowingly issues or publishes any counterfeit weather forecast or warning of weather conditions falsely representing such forecast or warning to have been issued or published by the Weather Bureau, United States Signal Service, or other branch of the Government service, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ninety days, or both.”

In other words, showcasing weather trajectories that are wrong is a federal offense.

Actually Trump did not violate that statute.
 
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He doesn't give one diddly dang to the fact that he's caused folks in Alabama to get scared over nothing. I used to live right on the GA-AL border, know lots of folks throughout the state. They didn't just roll their eyes at Donald being Donald. They took it as them needing to prepare for a hurricane like never seen before (on account of Donald making it sound that way, forgetting about the previous cat 5s).

Folks on the coastal areas planning on evacuating to Alabama paused in their tracks. All on account of Donald feeling the need to be right when he's flat-out dead wrong. Literally dead wrong.

I think people need to be reminded of rather old wisdom. Needlessly scaring people is far more important than it seems at first. Remember the old fable of the boy who cried wolf? Next time Trump issues a warning some will ignore it. A smaller group will ignore any warning from the government. A very small group will ignore any warnings. OK I'll consider that last group being there when disaster strikes as evolution in action.
 
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You know, I don't care who the president is, if I want to know the weather forecast, I don't listen to the president. And I don't consider him a liar or an expert on everything. I didn't consider Obama an expert on most things. Trump, at least, knows business. And knows where to find advisers. When I helped elect him, I didn't expect he would be the first perfect president, either.
I don't listen to celebrities on climate change (or much of anything), the pope on immigration, or Democrats on gun control, either.

That wasn't merely a weather report, Jesse. Jeepers.

Seeing as how Donald Trump has lied about it not raining when it had been, of course there's no chance I'd trust his word on anything. However, many folks, quite reasonably, do expect that the President of the United States should have the most currently available information about a catastrophic hurricane heading towards our country. That's a wee bit bigger of an issue than rain, don't you think? Donald made the choice to tweet about the hurricane. He made the choice to not bother to be attentive to the facts, to be careless. To then compound his wrong by insisting it was right when it wasn't.

Since you want to bring up President Obama so bad, look at how he conducted himself during the hurricanes that happened during his terms. He never gave wrong information then had himself a giant tempter tantrum insisting that the wrong info was right.
 
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Since you want to bring up President Obama so bad, look at how he conducted himself during the hurricanes that happened during his terms. He never gave wrong information then had himself a giant tempter tantrum insisting that the wrong info was right.

As Root of Jesse well knows, no President nor VP, has ever done this. He just won't acknowledge Trump should have kept his mouth shut.
 
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