Trump paid me to find voter fraud. Then he lied.

[Divide]

I am seeing this defense more and more lately. It shows that more and more some people are realizing that Trump has done many bad things, but the person saying this has still not come around to drop support for Trump. You will get there eventually.

I dont think I'm getting what you are trying to say. That I made excuses for Trump because he is a man? So does that mean that you expect the man to be perfect?

And you expect that I will drop my support for Trump? But my Bible says that no man is the enemy. We wrestle against principalities and powers, evil spirits and not men.

That Trump is a bad man that we all should hate...has many people confused and distracted away from the real issues. If Jesus died for Trump too, then how could you hate him?

Oh, but Trump....da da da
And he...da da da.
Those are distractions from hell Sister. Who cares if Trump said something off color to a woman somewhere at sometime? Have you ever done that? Have I ever done that? WOuld you cast the first stone upon Trump knowing that you yourself have done some of the same things wrong before? Apparently so. I can pray for you about that.

 

[Divide]

You did, and it is a rule violation.

Really? Where was that at? I didn't name anyone specific. You sound like a democrat, and that is ok too if that is what you choose to want and beieve. You can't take a man's general statement and twist it into something offensive so that you have some ammo to start a fight with.

Many people hate Trump and I support Trump. So what. And riddle me this: if Trump is so bad, have you ever bothered to pray for the man? Our Bible tells us to pray for these people, to pray for your enemies and bless them. What does your Bible say about that?

 

[Divide]

I don't understand it when otherwse Godly people latch on to hatred for Trump.

Scripture says that deceit is the enemies primary weapon.
The television is screaming, Hate Trump, Hate Trump...

Does not that make you even a little bit suspicious?

We are to bless our enemies and not curse them.
We are to pray for our enemies.

Hasnt anyone here even considered these things?

What is the profit to spread hated about a man whom we are not suppose to judge?

I'll continue to pray for Trump because this is what my Lord has instructed me to do.

 

[GreatLakes4Ever]

I don't understand it when otherwse Godly people latch on to hatred for Trump.

Scripture says that deceit is the enemies primary weapon.
The television is screaming, Hate Trump, Hate Trump...

Does not that make you even a little bit suspicious?

We are to bless our enemies and not curse them.
We are to pray for our enemies.

Hasnt anyone here even considered these things?

What is the profit to spread hated about a man whom we are not suppose to judge?

I'll continue to pray for Trump because this is what my Lord has instructed me to do.

Can you do your Lord and Savior a solid and not tie him to Trump’s hateful rhetoric? That kind of stuff just drives people away from Christ and toward the gates of hell. Jesus kind of wants more people in heaven and you are actively working against that.

 

[iluvatar5150]

I don't understand it when otherwse Godly people latch on to hatred for Trump.

Scripture says that deceit is the enemies primary weapon.
The television is screaming, Hate Trump, Hate Trump...

Does not that make you even a little bit suspicious?

We are to bless our enemies and not curse them.
We are to pray for our enemies.

Hasnt anyone here even considered these things?

What is the profit to spread hated about a man whom we are not suppose to judge?

I'll continue to pray for Trump because this is what my Lord has instructed me to do.

Lol, gaslight and misuse scripture much?

 

[Divide]

Lol, gaslight and misuse scripture much?

Excuse me brother but you believe in God. Does your Bible say the same things as my Bible that I outlined above?

Do you read your Bible? That is a real question and not merely sarcasm. Do you?

Remember the 2 greatest commandments?
Remember the two bears that came out of the woods and mauled 42 kids because they were mocking God's priest? Now I am not saying that Trump is a Priest, ok. But I remember that scripture says that God puts kings and presidents into power for His purposes.

Brother, that would be Trump. How would you even know if He was God's man? Have you no fear of God?
Do you know Trump is a bad man because your television said so? Maybe you have not thought this through well enough?

 

[iluvatar5150]

I don't understand it when otherwse Godly people latch on to hatred for Trump.

Scripture says that deceit is the enemies primary weapon.
The television is screaming, Hate Trump, Hate Trump...

Does not that make you even a little bit suspicious?

We are to bless our enemies and not curse them.
We are to pray for our enemies.

Hasnt anyone here even considered these things?

What is the profit to spread hated about a man whom we are not suppose to judge?

I'll continue to pray for Trump because this is what my Lord has instructed me to do.

Excuse me brother but you believe in God. Does your Bible say the same things as my Bible that I outlined above?

Do you read your Bible? That is a real question and not merely sarcasm. Do you?

Remember the 2 greatest commandments?

Love God and love your neighbor. What’s the problem here? It’s not unloving to point out Trump’s bad behavior.

Remember the two bears that came out of the woods and mauled 42 kids because they were mocking God's priest? Now I am not saying that Trump is a Priest, ok.

If you’re not saying that he’s a priest, why bring it up?

But I remember that scripture says that God puts kings and presidents into power for His purposes.

That passage explicitly says to res and abide by their legal authority. It does not say that they’re above criticism. Given that Trump isn’t in office, he has no authority to respect.

Note that this passage didn’t prevent you from entertaining conspiracies about Obama and Biden, or suggesting that Obama was the antichrist:

Is "Obama" Instructing "Joe Biden" Behind The Scene's, the attached video clip strongly suggest he could be?

In the 1:05 youtube clip, Obama openly states he would be fine instructing the presidency behind the scene's with a (Front Man and Ear Piece) in a third term presidency? The 1:05 youtube clip The Western Journal Watch: Obama Talks About Using a 'Stand-in, a Front-Man' for a Third Term December...

www.christianforums.com

PBrother, that would be Trump. How would you even know if He was God's man? Have you no fear of God?
Do you know Trump is a bad man because your television said so?

I know Trump is a bad man because I read and listen to his own words, observe his own actions, and look at the folks with whom he surrounds himself.

Maybe you have not thought this through well enough?

Says the guy twisting scripture to simp for a guy with a decades-long history of publicly cheating and scamming people.

 

[Hank77]

The overall game playing by Democrats causes one to lose faith in free and fair elections. For example, when windows to a room are covered with paper so monitors can't monitor. Or monitors being blocked or tricked. Or the ID game.

Fact check: Videos showing crowd locked out of Detroit TCF Center with windows obstructed are missing context

Videos of a crowd locked out of a Detroit ballot counting center are missing context. Entry was limited for challengers from both parties.

www.usatoday.com

There are other reports and videos.

 

[Divide]

Love God and love your neighbor. What’s the problem here? It’s not unloving to point out Trump’s bad behavior.


If you’re not saying that he’s a priest, why bring it up?



That passage explicitly says to res and abide by their legal authority. It does not say that they’re above criticism. Given that Trump isn’t in office, he has no authority to respect.

Note that this passage didn’t prevent you from entertaining conspiracies about Obama and Biden, or suggesting that Obama was the antichrist:

Is "Obama" Instructing "Joe Biden" Behind The Scene's, the attached video clip strongly suggest he could be?

In the 1:05 youtube clip, Obama openly states he would be fine instructing the presidency behind the scene's with a (Front Man and Ear Piece) in a third term presidency? The 1:05 youtube clip The Western Journal Watch: Obama Talks About Using a 'Stand-in, a Front-Man' for a Third Term December...

www.christianforums.com

I know Trump is a bad man because I read and listen to his own words, observe his own actions, and look at the folks with whom he surrounds himself.


Says the guy twisting scripture to simp for a guy with a decades-long history of publicly cheating and scamming people.

So who did you want to talk about here? I thought we was talking about Trump and the Lord?

On the one hand, Scripture speaks strongly against gossip. Romans 1:29; 2 Corinthians 12:20 – Both differentiate gossip from slander and condemn it as the result of a depraved mind, unfitting for Christians. 1 Timothy 5:13; 2 Thessalonians 3:11 – Both condemn “busybodies” who “speak about things not proper to mention.”

That is my point. Public criticism is a fancy name for gossip. You know it. I know it. The scriptures clearly instruct us to not do it. Yet you persist and that is very curious to me.

If you’re not saying that he’s a priest, why bring it up?

So you did not make the connection. The kids were mocking Elisha, (Criticising his bald head!), God's anointed Priest. God did not like His Priest being mocked. God punished them for it. I am drawing a parrellel to Trump from that story. Understand?

So yes, I did make the point that Trump isnt a Priest so that you wouldn't say, Aha! Trumps no Priest, You Lie! Or something weird like that. I know he is not a Priest. But the word on the street is that Trump had a visitation from God shortly after taking office. I didn't bring that up before because I wasnt there and I cant prove it. It seems to me that it is a bad idea to criticise or gossip about Trump because if God does have his hand on Trump...would you want to continue criticising him then? We aint supposed to judge him!

Gossip was a fairly big study for me not too long ago and what I learned was that Gossip about others is spoken through the mouth and it plants a seed of bitterness in your heart. If it is left to grow then it becomes a root of bitterness and we are told to diligently guard our heart. So I was just trying to warn the good Brothers & Sisters that gossip is not good.

It's the same way with forgiveness. We must be forgiving others who wrong us or the root of bitterness begins to grow and hardens our heart. They killed all of God's prophets, didn't they? Do you think God is pleased about that?

I don't understand why you turned on me and began criticising my words from other threads Sister. Can't you see that doing that totally misses the point I made?

You don't know if Trump was visited. I don't know either. But it has been said that he did. And if he did, then be happy for the man! Does Trump not deserve Salvation if the Lord lays it on his plate? Jesus died for Trump too, didn't He?

No second chances isn't what scripture says. It says forgive them 7 X 70 times per day. Does that apply to Trump too?

 

[Hank77]

So who did you want to talk about here? I thought we was talking about Trump and the Lord?

Off Topic. This thread is not about Trump and the Lord. This thread is about Trump claiming voter fraud, even hiring a company to find it, but no one has been able to support Trump's claims.

 

[SimplyMe]

Fact check: Videos showing crowd locked out of Detroit TCF Center with windows obstructed are missing context

Videos of a crowd locked out of a Detroit ballot counting center are missing context. Entry was limited for challengers from both parties.

www.usatoday.com

There are other reports and videos.

It is also worth noting, despite the various Republican claims, that Trump did better in that county than he had in 2016. If there was "rigging" going on there, it would appear the rigging was for Trump, not against him.

 

[Pommer]

But the word on the street is that Trump had a visitation from God shortly after taking office.

This is an odd assertion given your view on “gossip”.

 

[iluvatar5150]

That is my point. Public criticism is a fancy name for gossip. You know it. I know it. The scriptures clearly instruct us to not do it. Yet you persist and that is very curious to me.

Oh wow what a load of nonsense. Gossip is typically at least somewhat speculative. I prefer to deal in things that have been confirmed.

So you did not make the connection. The kids were mocking Elisha, (Criticising his bald head!), God's anointed Priest. God did not like His Priest being mocked. God punished them for it. I am drawing a parrellel to Trump from that story. Understand?

So yes, I did make the point that Trump isnt a Priest so that you wouldn't say, Aha! Trumps no Priest, You Lie! Or something weird like that. I know he is not a Priest.

So if he’s not a priest, why try to make the comparison?

But the word on the street is that Trump had a visitation from God shortly after taking office.

BWAHAHAHA did Jim Bakker tell you about that visit before or after he tried to sell you on a $200 food bucket?

If he had a visit shortly after taking office, he seems to be overdue for a follow up given the tone of his Christmas greeting:

Trump: ‘May they rot in Hell. Merry Christmas’

Former President Trump in an unusual Christmas message on Truth Social called for various people he sees as “looking to destroy” the nation to “rot in Hell.” It was one of several Christmas m…

thehill.com

I didn't bring that up before because I wasnt there and I cant prove it.

ok, so literally gossip…

It seems to me that it is a bad idea to criticise or gossip about Trump because if God does have his hand on Trump...would you want to continue criticising him then?

I’ll take my chances.

We aint supposed to judge him!

Not what the bible says.

Gossip was a fairly big study for me not too long ago and what I learned was that Gossip about others is spoken through the mouth and it plants a seed of bitterness in your heart. If it is left to grow then it becomes a root of bitterness and we are told to diligently guard our heart. So I was just trying to warn the good Brothers & Sisters that gossip is not good.

It's the same way with forgiveness. We must be forgiving others who wrong us or the root of bitterness begins to grow and hardens our heart. They killed all of God's prophets, didn't they? Do you think God is pleased about that?

I don't understand why you turned on me and began criticising my words from other threads Sister. Can't you see that doing that totally misses the point I made?

You don't know if Trump was visited. I don't know either. But it has been said that he did. And if he did, then be happy for the man! Does Trump not deserve Salvation if the Lord lays it on his plate? Jesus died for Trump too, didn't He?

No second chances isn't what scripture says. It says forgive them 7 X 70 times per day. Does that apply to Trump too?

I “turned” because you started manipulating scripture to support an indefensible defense of Trump.

 

[KCfromNC]

I'm not calling anybody out. I ,ade a general statement. SOunds like you are looking for a fight.

A worldview that considers asking a simple question "looking for a fight" is quite peculiar, almost as if it isn't based on knowledge about the real world obtained from answers to those sorts of questions.