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Transgender "Inclusive"Language:Where does it end and begin?

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razzelflabben

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I know right?! It is astounding to think that in the year 2015, there are still people living in this country, a country that continuously boasts and brags of its freedom and liberty, who have to fight daily for their own civil rights and also have to fight for equal rights as citizens of this nation. So much for freedom, liberty, and justice for all.
Personally, I'm all for them fighting for their rights as long as doing so does not remove the rights of another group, otherwise, we just keep fighting indefinitely for rights from people who are oppressed. Ah well, deaf ears....
 
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you made the statement after quoting me and misrepresenting what I said, but no worries, I've seen it before and I'm sure I will see it again.

I didn't misrepresent anything.
 
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I find it horrifying when one group demands the freedom of another so they can declare themselves free to do anything they want.

I don't know of anyone who is fighting to be "free to do anything they want".
 
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Personally, I'm all for them fighting for their rights as long as doing so does not remove the rights of another group, otherwise, we just keep fighting indefinitely for rights from people who are oppressed. Ah well, deaf ears....
Just to make perfectly and utterly sure that I'm not even *slightly* misrepresenting anything you wrote: can you give us an example of rights of another group being removed?
 
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I don't know of anyone who is fighting to be "free to do anything they want".
your posts are rude, misrepresentations, taking things out of context and otherwise out of control. For that reason, I will no longer be responding to you unless or until you can behave in a manner appropriate to forum rules.
 
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by quoting my post then sounding like I said something I did not say and not clarifying that you were not referring to my post even though you quoted it, yes, you did misrepresent me.

That's not what I did. I quoted your post as a reference point and then went beyond what you were talking about to clarify the issue.
 
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your posts are rude, misrepresentations, taking things out of context and otherwise out of control. For that reason, I will no longer be responding to you unless or until you can behave in a manner appropriate to forum rules.

I didn't mean to literally quote you. Please tell me how your words are a misrepresentation of your words and I'll stop quoting you.
 
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Just to make perfectly and utterly sure that I'm not even *slightly* misrepresenting anything you wrote: can you give us an example of rights of another group being removed?
Well, to do so would be off topic and therefore a violation of forum rules, but we can talk about an example that was provided in this thread. You see, someone made the argument that the transgender has a right to transition...I agree, no one has a right to take away the right for a transgender person to transition. That being said, if you go down the road of another poster who declared that a 5 year old should be able to demand transitional surgery, you are removing the right of every child who at 5 years old doesn't know what is going on or what is the best thing for them. In fact, you are removing the right of the parent to be a responsible parent.

Thus, in light of staying on topic, this would be an example. Other examples would be off topic.
 
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not passage aggressive at all, if anything, straight up aggressive. I find it horrifying when one group demands the freedom of another so they can declare themselves free to do anything they want. It's simply horrifying and what is even worse in my opinion, it is so anti the Love that the believer is called to have that it hurts. Now, that goes for all groups that try to force their "right to freedom" on another group all the while demanding that the group give up their freedoms to accommodate. But, I'm just repeating myself, moving on.


Yes, it was so horrible that racists lost their right to exclude blacks simply so they could have equal protection under the law.
 
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That's not what I did. I quoted your post as a reference point and then went beyond what you were talking about to clarify the issue.
you did not in any way suggest that you were simply using my post as a jumping off mark, but hey, I get it, it's hard to confess when one is wrong, especially in public. We are done with this non sense.
 
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Hum...so when I say this applies to all groups, you misrepresent me and go with this....
How am I misrepresenting you when I give an example of the principle you just brought up?

Also, it seems you feel that *everyone* who disagrees with you is apparently misreading your posts *all* the time. If that was the case with my posts, I'd stop blaming others and start trying to communicate my position better. When somebody doesn't get it, that's only natural. When every single person who disagrees with me apparently doesn't understand what I'm saying, chances are I'm not doing the best job at getting my ideas across.
 
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I didn't mean to literally quote you. Please tell me how your words are a misrepresentation of your words and I'll stop quoting you.
as I said, taking what I say out of context, reinventing context to make it into something I did not say, is misrepresentation, but you know that, I have pointed it out to you several times over now...
 
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Yes, it was so horrible that racists lost their right to exclude blacks simply so they could have equal protection under the law.
?????? what are you talking about? If rights are not taken from another group, I'm all for it, just like I said. or are you trying to assault my character without taking responsibility for your own actions?
 
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That being said, if you go down the road of another poster who declared that a 5 year old should be able to demand transitional surgery

Who declared that? Can you link to it?

you did not in any way suggest that you were simply using my post as a jumping off mark, but hey, I get it, it's hard to confess when one is wrong, especially in public. We are done with this non sense.

I'm not wrong. I know my intentions better than you do.
 
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How am I misrepresenting you when I give an example of the principle you just brought up?

Also, it seems you feel that *everyone* who disagrees with you is apparently misreading your posts *all* the time. If that was the case with my posts, I'd stop blaming others and start trying to communicate my position better. When somebody doesn't get it, that's only natural. When every single person who disagrees with me apparently doesn't understand what I'm saying, chances are I'm not doing the best job at getting my ideas across.
As I pointed out in another post where I was accused of disagreement being the problem....we weren't even disagreeing, and I was still being slandered...end of story.
 
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your posts are rude, misrepresentations, taking things out of context and otherwise out of control. For that reason, I will no longer be responding to you unless or until you can behave in a manner appropriate to forum rules.

How was that post rude?
 
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Who declared that? Can you link to it?
wow, it was a several post long discussion where I pointed out that that was not a wise argument. If you didn't follow it the first time, you are free to review the discussion and find it on your own time. That is the fun of a public discussion.
I'm not wrong. I know my intentions better than you do.
I am not talking about intentions here, as I pointed out previously. I am talking about your actions and words on this thread.
 
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