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what I want to know is how someone handles justice that are not dependent on the utmost simplicity of the Godhead... which is divine love. I would say that those who have the best ideas about reality and how it should function in order to create a paradise on earth would have to conform to the simple nature of love. I don't think there is a higher manner of which to order humanity than with love. but sadly so many do not believe this and so they attempt to function in lower concepts about how they will be and what is right. some atheist confess God by their heart rather than the secondary things such as their minds and beliefs and their understanding about reality.

The law and it's children that come from her are all dependent upon the seed that is sown in her, whether this seed is external or internal, where both (who some see as balance) become the definition of a double mind, and seen (in one form) as the picture the two sons of Adam became (through disobedience) of the one inheritance that is God.

They are the seeds of knowledge (concerning self) and become this to us when they are something that is outside of us.

(As you know) The river/narrative that flows out of the garden is not separate from the kingdom that it was the good pleasure of our father from the beginning to give us.
 
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one of my favorite childhood games has such amazing truths in it seeing as all existed in God before they were created. the main hero was a thief. we all have angels set over us that aid in the salvation of many just as the saints work in the earth in the same concord. but it is much more than that, the eternal echos and the rejoicing of everlasting joy in the kingdom of heaven, the endless beauty of reality and the one voice of Gods love working all things for the good of all in the multiplicity of simplicity in the garden that belongs to God where there is endless beauty and glory.... the memories of the church and the eternal cosmos... what I said and this reality called the human experience is like hair being cut off and being blown in the wind. but it can not compare to the living reality of the kingdom of God that is and which is constantly being renewed in eternally embracing love which we are all in forever.

Melodies Of Life (OST Final Fantasy IX) - Emiko Shiratori - YouTube

An apt description of our soul ... how so this is the apple of God's eye.
 
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Most Christian's do not relate the narrative that flows out of pleasure as something that flows out of them. The word instead becomes an image of something outside of them which as they say is par for the course.

Jesus caused division the same way Moses did. Every time God shows up he creates light and darkness, which is as relative to us as it was to Jesus which is found to be in the process of the whole of what we become to each other, when the first commandment is not kept, though it leads us back to the keeping of it.
 
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Truth and self are the same reality ...

Each religion of the world was created by one man, as a truth revealed from God as he saw it, which when put into words becomes a path of a serpent, (Law and our perception of something being the same truth, which is how Moses could accuse without ever having accused in relationship to whom they trusted (and becomes the difference between the two laws given on the mount (though they be one, which is the pattern found in the masculine and the feminine and relates to the two forties, etc. as revealing the process found in the first garden), or something (in the Bible a beast or serpent) people wander after. Jesus' revelation was who man was in relationship to God, the oneness we share by gift from him from before the beginning (which is how Jesus related this truth concerning how it came to be him).

In truth the path of life is in us, and always has been. It is us, and the continuing journey into this reality.

We are the path, and the journey is the continual opening of this as a perception of self given to us by our soul (enter in the difference between the masculine and the feminine and the picture they become of this truth happening in us, which is God revealing his son in us).
 
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That is profound.....yes, we are to become as innocent little ones, for such is the kingdom of heaven. And in wisdom, we are anchored there, in the Father's presence, remaining there. Amen.

"But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven." ~Matthew 19:14
 
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When something is said, it is not understood in the way it was said unless we become one with the one who said it, such is the language of God.

It is pure, it is innocent, it is the mind of Christ, which is the mind of the Father, which is the mind of God.
 
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We are caught in the narrative of the world, because we allow our soul (harlot) to rule over us based on an image (of a beast/man/creation/money/power/acceptance/etc.) outside of us, which is equivalent in picture to the Christian's cross, or the Jews feast of Passover, but must be picked up or to be kept to learn how to walk the truth of self out.

We are both Adam and Christ, but Like Cain did to Abel, or the serpent does to the woman (soul) our flesh or the creation does the same to us.
 
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A thought on wisdom ...

Wisdom (Passover/cross, in relationship to the process of a garden/soul enclosed, or a rest unto life) and innocence are the same truth.

It is the truth of the moment, as is all the creative days/feasts but as seven that are summed up in the 8th (to which there is an anti) which equates to what the sixth (man/living soul (found in the symbolism of the fours 4/14/40/144/144,000/etc.) is to the seventh ... they are in one form the keys … the moment is what we live in, which is Gods which equates to us as the state of being as it does to God as our Father as the Truth which is a constant (Word of God as something we possess) over flowing (testimony of Jesus/living soul of Christ as something we possess) of the truth of self and the process of it.

The feasts are the moment in relationship to process, they have a relation with that which always is as they do with that which is always coming, one is the garden, one is what the garden is enclosed in which is truth/self.

The LORD by wisdom hath founded the earth; by understanding hath he established the heavens (equating with the first and last feast (which is also the two of the three ones is called up to Jerusalem to keep), that are in the midst of the seven. It being the same truth though they are separate, which is to us, the relationship of all things, all things being of God and God filling all things).

To the soul (garden not enclosed (or in another form, Harlot) wisdom is a commodity …
 
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economies and governments are products of this world that will not remain in the everlasting kingdom. some people wonder if physical reality would always be. I personally think it will always be in some form or another.
 
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It it will always be ... but our perception of it will be forever changing (depicted in the sciences as a crude or earthly manner of this truth) and this through the very one who perceives it, to which God alone gives the increase (which is the pleasure of his soul) in us as the one who has filled all things with himself.
 
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Clarity comes when we see something from multiple vantage points. The elder, and the younger figure in on many different levels as to how they speak in a given situation all to bring clarity to what one as a firstborn sees. The portion of the firstborn (as all things are) is seen in the same way, and why a younger robs the inheritance in the eyes of the firstborn … it is a double portion to him, and inheritance that is separate. In this way it relates to Passover and Tabernacles (bearing in mind the two forties, or weeks, or years, or cities, kingdoms, seeds, women, trees, mountains, names, rests, etc.) a let there be light (darkness, which was before light, though light is called out of it) and a rest after the labor is through, but itself a firstborn, and therefore a rest never entered into, or a portion never entered into by what the firstborn became, as in the pictures of Ishmael. The first and second are the same truth (relating to a garden enclosed) from where one sees the wholeness of self (in relationship to how God from the beginning has formed us in our mother’s womb (which equates to the soul of God, as a thought/word/son formed) from and reflects the process of our soul in us due to the image presented (and God brining us to this consensus of self in us (as the process that is seen in the moment he hid his face from us, which is much like the first commandment, why being the point of the commandant which if not disobeyed you never come to the knowledge of).

It’s funny, I can’t pack in enough words into words to form the words I want to say, it is the letter of the law.
 
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well if you ever feel like typing at leisure so you don't have to try to cram stuff you could type out a book. there are some differences between typing a book and typing on a forum. there are different manners of which to explain things. the book of proverbs is one kind of manner to express truth and the books of the prophets another.... each book is different. for all things in a person to be working in accord and in their proper order is wonderful.

now that I have some understanding of how much people can misunderstand one another it makes me wonder how many wise but misunderstood people there have been that have been snuffed out by the undiscerning. the manner in which a saint will refute something is sometimes more of a refuting a perspective of it rather than the actual thing. it is not good that this idea should become a law that says that that is the only thing God inspires one to do though... it would be like seeing one law and then forcing that law and saying that is the only law that there is and all other good laws are not. I must also point out that our work includes both our own freedom and Gods. it is beautiful to get to work alongside with God and his saints... it is Gods will that we wakefully participate with him. from another angle it is important that we do not quench the Spirit by our own will. we must be together and the lower nature must be crushed.


the Holy Spirit has quoted some ancient books while still not allowing them to be in Gods various canons. God has left some out and others in for a multitude of reasons. the depths of all the reasons why God does what he does is something we may learn for the rest of our lives. it is important to understand things by an inner and good meaning in Christ rather than to merely dwell in a shallow and a spiritually childish view of things. it is also good to know the pitfalls that a thing can cause to those who are weaker in the faith. the saintly ones who love God want to lead people closer to God ( works of saints are traps set by God who is a hunter) . they also struggle with trying to not make the truth distorted so as to stumble those who did desire to partake of what God has lovingly given to them.

but then again God has inspired some saints to write things that are pretty dark and hard to understand as well. the key is that they work with God in all that they do and God works with them in all that they do. they work in the liberty of the spirit. religion tends to grow darker the more it has to reach out to the average soul of the world. there are many dangers in collecting much knowledge just as there are many dangers in having a smaller library.

a kind saint once taught that ignorance is evil. it is the lack of wisdom from above that is evil... not the lack of stuff you crammed into your brain.

I begin to understand you more clearly when I read more of what you say and get glimpses of your understanding and since this is part of how consciousness works then it is good and right as long as everything of me is working in accord and properly. there is both new and old that come from the fullness of working in one accord but non-being hinders being and so we must have nothing to do with the dissolution of the good. there are so many manners and modes to talk as or in that it can become confusing. just because paul said this or that does not mean he was still going through this or that process. and then again paul wrote from where he was at as well. he and all saints are inspired to write what they write. others are inspired to break the bread of what is said into more and more. all the saints try to give that part of what God gave to them, trying different manners and ways of trying to assist in the gathering of people. they are light and their job is to shine for others as Jesus desired.

I still desire to hear what you and anyone who is working with God has to say. in the endless garden my desire is that something be of good to someone. one of my greatest regrets is that I was not born in the time and place Jesus was. I still say it would have been great to be around and listen to him and to ask questions. can you imagine how that demon possessed guy in the tomb city must have felt like when Jesus set him free and he wanted to hang around Jesus but he was told to go somewhere else? it makes me sad in some sense. but Jesus willed and loved it so. in the kingdom of God we all work together. in this mystical body called "the church" we have heard one another and we rejoice when we find someone that has been blessed with God. we rejoice when someone grows... when good occurs.
 
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The words to the demon possessed contain the same truth that the words to Mary did of do not touch me.

The soul loves to build cities, it is inherent in it's very nature to birth whatever seed is planted. It is eternal as the one it came out of being of him and is an absolute clarifying every seed sown.

God indeed requires everything, or our whole soul (etc.) because this is the measure he gave, in and the measure he gives back in, which is found to be the measure from the very beginning through the perception, or birthing of this truth in us, which becomes to us a continuous place of where we are, and will unveil all things to be this from the beginning, or as something that always was.
 
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well if you ever feel like typing at leisure so you don't have to try to cram stuff you could type out a book. there are some differences between typing a book and typing on a forum. there are different manners of which to explain things. the book of proverbs is one kind of manner to express truth and the books of the prophets another.... each book is different. for all things in a person to be working in accord and in their proper order is wonderful.

now that I have some understanding of how much people can misunderstand one another it makes me wonder how many wise but misunderstood people there have been that have been snuffed out by the undiscerning. the manner in which a saint will refute something is sometimes more of a refuting a perspective of it rather than the actual thing. it is not good that this idea should become a law that says that that is the only thing God inspires one to do though... it would be like seeing one law and then forcing that law and saying that is the only law that there is and all other good laws are not. I must also point out that our work includes both our own freedom and Gods. it is beautiful to get to work alongside with God and his saints... it is Gods will that we wakefully participate with him. from another angle it is important that we do not quench the Spirit by our own will. we must be together and the lower nature must be crushed.


the Holy Spirit has quoted some ancient books while still not allowing them to be in Gods various canons. God has left some out and others in for a multitude of reasons. the depths of all the reasons why God does what he does is something we may learn for the rest of our lives. it is important to understand things by an inner and good meaning in Christ rather than to merely dwell in a shallow and a spiritually childish view of things. it is also good to know the pitfalls that a thing can cause to those who are weaker in the faith. the saintly ones who love God want to lead people closer to God ( works of saints are traps set by God who is a hunter) . they also struggle with trying to not make the truth distorted so as to stumble those who did desire to partake of what God has lovingly given to them.

but then again God has inspired some saints to write things that are pretty dark and hard to understand as well. the key is that they work with God in all that they do and God works with them in all that they do. they work in the liberty of the spirit. religion tends to grow darker the more it has to reach out to the average soul of the world. there are many dangers in collecting much knowledge just as there are many dangers in having a smaller library.

a kind saint once taught that ignorance is evil. it is the lack of wisdom from above that is evil... not the lack of stuff you crammed into your brain.

I begin to understand you more clearly when I read more of what you say and get glimpses of your understanding and since this is part of how consciousness works then it is good and right as long as everything of me is working in accord and properly. there is both new and old that come from the fullness of working in one accord but non-being hinders being and so we must have nothing to do with the dissolution of the good. there are so many manners and modes to talk as or in that it can become confusing. just because paul said this or that does not mean he was still going through this or that process. and then again paul wrote from where he was at as well. he and all saints are inspired to write what they write. others are inspired to break the bread of what is said into more and more. all the saints try to give that part of what God gave to them, trying different manners and ways of trying to assist in the gathering of people. they are light and their job is to shine for others as Jesus desired.

I still desire to hear what you and anyone who is working with God has to say. in the endless garden my desire is that something be of good to someone. one of my greatest regrets is that I was not born in the time and place Jesus was. I still say it would have been great to be around and listen to him and to ask questions. can you imagine how that demon possessed guy in the tomb city must have felt like when Jesus set him free and he wanted to hang around Jesus but he was told to go somewhere else? it makes me sad in some sense. but Jesus willed and loved it so. in the kingdom of God we all work together. in this mystical body called "the church" we have heard one another and we rejoice when we find someone that has been blessed with God. we rejoice when someone grows... when good occurs.

(I apologize that this is somewhat late and incomplete) … There's no end of the making of books, and in the end only a hindrance for those who read what God can show far beyond in them, in one moment. (As you know) It is not about the book, or song, or art work, etc., it is about the process of the soul, and the seed sown, one has always been, and then there is another, and the law (or perception of the soul/mother) that was life becomes the law of measurements.

The truth of the collective soul of God is each individual soul and is the language of God we are. To come to mount Zion is this truth, a pure river of which there are many streams.

I give no thought to where one is (or believes themselves to be) seeing how God is in all and bringing all to the consensus of one which he himself is (which is an endless truth as much as the soul is this endless truth that comes out of him).

I see multiple visions every day in the richness of the fellowship of father and son and know this is to all as something given/free and that God upbraids not to any individual seeing how he is no less in any, all things contrary to this remains outside of the city, or soul of one who has entered into his rest, which equates to whom the son sets free.

Paul was who he was and what his words became were apt for the pattern found in the woman who comes out of the side, and the confusion of two days, which is the process both multiple and dimensional (if you will) in its facets as something collective, individual, and continual.

On the no end of the making of books, If someone chose to do this (breaking bread by binding it, merchandising it, (I know that sounds harsh), this is what they choose to do, and I am not swayed (as if it were good or evil), one way or the other, as to any type of judgment on such an act or endeavor (I find truth to be everywhere, to the pure all things are pure, which is as an habitation one lives in as a place of no measurement, which serves to define lack).

In the wilderness … (or one who lives in the mind seeded by the image outside of us (that is relative to two women grinding at a mill (a mixture) (as the true image has always been beyond the veil, which is as a Jordan in us) … knowledge is a serpent that causes one to wander.

I am always searching (here, elsewhere, where I work, the people I meet everyday, and which my Job offers a never ending supply of) for the ones who have heard from their father, and are no longer willing to build an image out of what they have heard, the ones who no longer let their soul rule over them but rather rule over their soul, it was this that John had reassured the true fellowship to be.
 
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