Thoughts ...

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Spiritual knowledge though reflected into the world is not of the world; to mix it with it is for it to become an adversary to you and a wandering around in the wilderness of your mind. The things delivered to us by our five husbands/senses, is not our true husband/image/seed/self/name/etc. It in no way has anything to do with the wisdom, knowledge, or understanding of the truth, which equates to self as the one born of God whose soul came down from (as a city that comes out of heaven), that he might understand the life that is in him, and this as something that unfolds forever, which the realm we are in to us is as a seed cast to the ground in (in form, it is the kingdom of God), he in all ways being our identity as to the truth of who we are to our Father from whom all life as it relates to his pleasure flows, which is this same kingdom in us, and where we presently are.

 

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For Jesus (as for us all) the battle was in his mind. When he turned to Peter and said get behind me, he spoke to the thoughts that defiled Peter (having come out of his mouth) and in some sense of the word, made him an adversary to Jesus’ way of thinking (it is flesh/sin that is cast behind us in the language of God).

When Jesus said the prince of this world cometh and he has no place in me, he removed himself from a situation coming that would have played out in the same fashion by saying, let’s leaves this place, which was a matter of perception, and not just his geographical location.

In other places he would have passed ones by if they had not called out, and in others he simply past through the midst of it and went his way, it being said of him that his face was set like flint towards Jerusalem (which is the purpose of God, and in this purpose the face that would consume the city/soul as what sparks the fire of desolation, from where the true soul can be seen as to where it comes out and down from). His prayer life was much the same, it was not the asking for things, having all things; it was fellowship with his father through the purpose his God and his Father had purposed in himself, which was now the very life that Jesus was, as a way, and a truth, and a life that is lived presently.

It was the path of Life, the path of a son, but not just a first born, or second born, an only begotten (no gender implied), the path no fowl knows of, and no vulture’s eye hath seen, which is relative to every son of God.

 

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(As relative to everyone born of the spirit) Because he is "I am", and because "I am", he is in the earth. The thing about such a statement is that it is said from where you are (which it is old to me). This statement (or the understanding thereof) is said (in picture) from the entering in to the land the first time by Israel, and place where their testimony becomes dual by an image outside of them, and therefore they turn back according to the law (ten spies) of their mind wherein they oppose God, which ties itself to the inheritance of Adam and the two sons it became. "I am" is the place where there is no thought to be, where our confusion of face becomes not, where the inheritance in us becomes one, or single.

 

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If you soul to the word of God the word will become your whole soul, an this will be the light you live in.

 

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Was God once a man, he had to think in this form or we would not be, in some sense of the word, yes; but for a moment only defined by himself, as something ruled over and to which we find ourselves in, and is the process of this moment he hid his face from us. It is the realm of the feminine, or the realm of reason (the process involving two seeds, which the pictures of come in many forms) that we are in (that Jesus likened to a journey, or something that grows).

To be the ultimate love comes with the ultimate vulnerability of loving (which is what our flesh first teaches us in the crude manner of dust thou art, or as if God were even mindful of man, how vulnerable we are, though we even misunderstand what the pure nature of vulnerability is).

If I judged by what I saw, I would say that he is not mindful of man, or if he is somewhat, they are very few, and far between.

Can man attain to God, Jesus believed the son of man was the son of God and that this was something given having been birthed out of this truth, and so by inheritance the truth of who you have always been, which is where a cross comes in for our reasoning, and our will and emotions that were corrupted by it, and it’s seed.

It is an inheritance not labored by thought for, but an increase in this realm of perception as to who we are in him, which is self, unending in both scope and depth, being the mind of Christ (which equates to the soul that you find), which is the perception of the mind of God as being something we possess, even if we do not understand the beginning of this yet as it relates to the end.

 

[Noxot]

but this Word is so much more than any human being has ever seen. so much is right in front of our face but we can't see. to not think is very hard sometimes. it seems impossible at times. even the act of looking at something triggers a process in the brain. it appears that the act of moving your hand is a thought which occurs in your brain. the hardest place to take no thought for me is at my work. a guy said that according to scientific testing that even if you are not 'thinking' but watching a tv show that your brain is doing all kinds of things that it does not do when you sit in silence and darkness and meditate. less environment/sensory interactions obviously.

it is a sad thing to see mysticism reduced to scientific inquiry as they fall so short from understanding reality as it is ( as we all do i suppose ). they sometimes wish to capture this spiritual practice and reduce it to something that happens within a certain kind of fallen human mindset. lots of people in our time trys to submit all kinds of differing spheres of our reality to the scientific one. for instance many philosophers want philosophy to be a science rather than what it is. O well.... there is an upward and downward movement with most things.

 

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I think that is "but the Word is so much more than any human being has ever seen" what we trust in that keeps the heavens open in us, and why Paul would say something to the fact that this was the glory or confidence he had in his infirmities, which was Jesus' there are none good but God.

 

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yeah but I would rather be without necessity and in God than in necessity and in God. it sucks not completely being with God in everything. I can't be with God in this world like I want to and I certainly don't know how i want to be with him as my desires towards God are far past my own comprehension which leaves me off withering in pain and yet he is to be with us but I don't even know how to express the love for him as it does not seem possible to be able to express this love in this reality enough.

 

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The carnal mind always wants to bring everything concerning truth into the conformity by which it sees, which is a place of measurement (which you see in the law of Moses, as a second time of coming down from the mountain (though the truth be hidden in it/seed of a woman).

When you find everything the opportunity not to eat, then you find the voice of God all around you.

 

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I want more than his voice.

 

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It is a voice that you see, and this within (but you know that).

 

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The first Adam let the moneychangers into the temple; the second Adam drove them out.

It was in picture (in one form) a truth to us on the whole that relates to our soul where the merchandizing happens concerning the knowledge of God, and where the seed of this lie comes from (not being of the woman).

The first woman was deceived by trying to become like him, the second woman has no need of the sun or the moon.

 

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There is no end to the truth that he is, so there is no end to the truth that we are.

 

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Knowledge are the (two) keys (as something given freely) to the city, and the city of God our soul.

There is a river where the streams thereof make glad the city of God, which is the holy place of the tabernacle of the most high (holy place equating to the soul of our makeup, which prepares the feast we eat of even as the woman gave to her husband and he did eat).

In the city of God the two trees become one tree (which is in the midst of the streets, and on the either side of the river (or it's banks/two fruits), Drink waters out of thine own cistern, and running waters out of thine own well. Let thy fountains be dispersed abroad, and rivers of waters in the streets. Let them be only thine own, and not strangers' with thee.), whose leaves heal the nations, by being the covering of our nakedness, or to be clothed with the perception of God.

(In picture this is the seed of the woman as being relative to us as the sons that we are, and the seed that is Christ in our mind, or the mind of Christ, and the soul you find).

 

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People speak of God in the second person and become snared by the image of the words of their mouth, being that words are as relevant to the kingdom of God as perception is to words, or a word. There is more to be found in what is not said when something is said, as there is more in what was said, then what is in what has been first perceived to have been said, likewise, it is not understood in the way it was said unless we become one with the one who said it; such is the language of God, and what is the foundation of the relationship of a son of God.

This alone is the light we live in.

 

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and we must not grieve his Holy Spirit for God would then become to us... an enemy.

 

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it is the singleness of the gospel of Life/Christ/God/Salvation/Son/Peace/Kingdom.

 

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Thoughts on the following words ...

Romans 9:22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

The tree of knowledge is the tree of reason (as well as it is a tree that Jesus likened the kingdom of God to).

Who will God have mercy on ... who is good, and who is evil ... (remembering what brought this confusion (being caught between two opinions/mountains), or made the tree this is the words that proceeded from God's mouth, or the commandment).

Since God does not change and there is no shadow of turning him, those made for desolation cannot possibly escape this fate seeing it was something in the mind of God before all things were (or it would not be), and no choice on our part is to any avail concerning the outcome.

But if God does not want us to reason with him (as per the tree), he would not have called us to do so (which according to Isaiah we become clean by, much like what Jesus said, and his word having cleansed them). If God called Job, and is no respecter of person (or one could say, all works outside of his own are abominable to him, and are accounted as a path of desolation), which the remedy of is by the filling of all things with himself), then he calls all to the same (seeing the same process with Job, and the outcome of reasoning with God, the portion of the firstborn (though it does not end here). The call to Adam to reason with God was in the commandment being that God’s commandment is life everlasting, which is the truth that proceeds from his mouth.

If God did not want man to reason he would have never brought the animals to him to see what he would name them (as if he did not know already, like the Where art thou?), but it wasn't about the animal and its name but the process found in the (first man) living soul Adam was to which the tree in symbolism is.

In the end the tree of knowledge is pure if one is pure.

 

[Noxot]

the truth is that people punish their own children because they don't know how to reason as they ought. people use force on their children because they know not the higher and greater ways of goodness. people believe it is right to spank their children, knowing no other manner of discipline. and this process is part of mankinds soul and understanding of what is good and it affects how they understand God. violence never stops violence, it only breeds more of the same. people thought it was right to have slaves and people think it is right to hit their children. the resorting to violence is sad to see happen and maybe in this world it must be done sometimes but I think love covers a multitude of sins in general and love is the most rational and irrational thing that there is.

the Lord did have wrath upon me but it was not the wrath that my devilish eyes saw. whatever the Lord does to and for us is for our good as he himself is Good. if I desire to bless everyone in this tiny vessel and limited capacity then how much more does God desire to bless all?

this realities very nature is one of sackcloth and ashes... but it turns to a great and everlasting joy and rejoicing.

if the vessel of wrath is not destroyed then how will I who am innocent ever be pure? for the wicked men day after day bring torments to me and my kind. but I know that we who are meek shall inherit the earth, which is to say, my flesh. and the poor in spirit reign in the heavens and this is amazing as there are many planets in outer space... lots of stars too.

 

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Jesus never debated the truth, but his statements caused one to have to reason out the truth for themselves, by first coming to the reality that this only our Father could teach us (by the spirit/christ/anointing that proceeded from him) and the giving up to this reality, which was as common to him as it was to every son of man (no gender implied), and fills the sum of the six questions of man of, who, what, where, why, and how as alone being the truth of each individual.

God is not measured by thought, but is the measure within the thought.