Thoughts ...

[Nym]

Nothing is ever really 'lost' as in destroyed..what is burned turns to ash, fertilizes the ground, is consumed by plants and animals...water can evaporate or boil away but it vaporizes, rises to the sky, becomes one with the clouds and rains water again.
The body or plant that dies and decomposes feeds multitudes of organisms, feeds the ground and eventually ends up somewhere else to repeat the cycle.
Thus time too would be a cycle if it could be seen in that way.

Jesus likened the same scenario to what the kingdom of God is likened to, the process of time, which equates to soul as much as a woman who gives us to eat. How many forms can something appear in and how many things can be seen in one form, they are endless just as knowledge is endless. My dad was always fond of saying, "How many words does it take to describe one word."

 

[Nym]

"Words have a connection on a fundamental level where the construct of the language expands outward from; but what is not like this."

 

[Nym]

Nothing is ever really 'lost' as in destroyed..what is burned turns to ash, fertilizes the ground, is consumed by plants and animals...water can evaporate or boil away but it vaporizes, rises to the sky, becomes one with the clouds and rains water again.
The body or plant that dies and decomposes feeds multitudes of organisms, feeds the ground and eventually ends up somewhere else to repeat the cycle.
Thus time too would be a cycle if it could be seen in that way.

For consciousness it would loosely sound like, "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. "

 

[Noxot]

this makes sense, kind of big so I will hide part of it:

Spoiler: secrets of heaven, 2 quotes

 

[jugghead]

The words of a prophet (as truth) are dependent upon the choice God made

also wanted to add: When Love makes a choice, Love chooses to forgive out of compassion for they know not what they do

 

[Nym]

Something old my dad sent me.

It's not about thought, it is about the abstinence from it, both good and evil alike, as a chosen fast, or tree we do not eat of let alone touch ... she is a virgin … our soul.

Take no thought ... or you are dead ... or lose your soul, it's all the same language (Jesus was taught this).

Empty your mind of all thought and the next voice that you hear will be God's, and if you listen to the point of following only this voice you will find it to be your own, as much as it is his voice that leads you. Put no thought into form, rather take no thought, for light comes out of those things that are without form and void.

You will be exhausted after wards when you keep the gate, you will be physically tired and wake often as you are taught even in the night hours truths to wondrous for the mind to retain, but in innocence of thought knowing that there is no need of retaining what is already yours.

 

[Noxot]

absolutely true for the prophets. they are some of the souls that were nearest to God in this earth. they saw very much and in times of darkness.

the lake of fire is the new jerusalem

I try to cast myself out, I really do. if it was up to me this entire universe would be devoured by fire. I really wanna be dead, i wanna be so near to God. whatever I could do to be with God, whatever little i could do. I really hope for new revelations, for God to show me if i'm evil. I don't care if I rot in hell if it is with God, honestly. I don't mind being shut away in deep darkness with God.

I don't wanna do things for God in this world, I just wanna be with God. I want others to know God too. being a creature is such a burden. I suppose my complaints are just as valid to God as my peace is. i really hope we can all be more fully in heaven even as creatures in this world.

some say repeating a mantra or a short prayer is useful. I did it for about 2 days but my brain does not repeat words well, whatever is wrong with it, I hardly care. I really believe in fasting too, it helps. I need to do that. I love being hungry for God but my flesh is just dumb and lazy.

 

[jugghead]

My thought for today

For the law is the lesser light, for it reveals that which is sin

Grace is the greater light, for it reveals that which is love

the law can teach us what sin is, but it cannot teach us what love is

we can know all about sin and still know nothing about love

 

[Nym]

Looking out from a place that is before the beginning, "If God is evil, evil exists." The lesson is to learn that there is no such thing as sin outside of our own thoughts that it is.

Largely the words of a prophet are the words of a serpent, they are always words of something coming rather than something that has always been.

 

[jugghead]

Looking out from a place that is before the beginning, "If God is evil, evil exists." The lesson is to learn that there is no such thing as sin outside of our own thoughts that it is.

Largely the words of a prophet are the words of a serpent, they are always words of something coming rather than something that has always been.

Couldn't agree more with the first part, it reminded me of a quote "the farther back you look the further ahead you see" which is what we understand as "always been" or "the same"

but with the second part, is not something that is yet to be revealed "something coming"? We know it has already been revealed in us, but to others it hasn't ......

So if I speak to someone in who it has not yet been revealed, I speak of a truth yet to come, but only in the context of a revealing (even though it can and most likely will become a serpent to them) ..... hence the key word "largely"

So in conclusion, someone is or is not a prophet depending on who we are talking to

thinking out loud

 

[FanthatSpark]

And thus, no thought, no judgment. Some verses to connect to previous sentence.

You judge according to the flesh; I judge no one. Yet even if I do judge, my judgment is true, for it is not I alone who judge, but I and the Father who sent me.

Matt 7:1-5 “Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

When one is taught of no thought (there is but one teacher ((see post #1426 third paragraph)) in the creek, stream, river or sea ) this verse upcoming has no meaning...

Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

... these people operate in Galatians 5:22-23. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.

Something to ponder... Largely (borrowing this key word jugg ) , a church can not teach a man/woman to sequester in prayer , scripture and... go to work. Its confusion of two masters.
Yet, a church can not survive without the workers ... Matt:6:24 “No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money. One may have to take a thought and judge it in print, sums or people .

Do remember the key word and this does not pertain to "all" . Be well .

 

[FanthatSpark]

However,,,

Even God took a thought. Genesis 1:3 , right? Its just this world (reality) that can lose a persons spirit dependent on what the person listens to in and out of their head .

God judged the light. As for the darkness there is silence . We, the creation , by default, put the yin/negative to yang/positive and by default set ourselves up to be ??? Judged, right?

When we ponder love/Jesus/Light (these three are the same to me) even the saints found they fall short and Grace alone saves us. We, the creation , (given time and a tragedy) will be bent to Gods will. What is Gods will? The only thought He took right?

As you guys know, I talk to self in these missives . These missives are for relating a same issue or not. As me and x141, Jugg, Noxot used to ponder the depths of thought in a strange language (yet one that made sense after praying to remove me out of the way ) some may call philosophy . We strive to love the sinner (self, us, humanity) , right?

All that to say to you Nym , to not take a thought is not to live, right? Please do not be offended at my blindness. It probably is a lacking in self that I do not follow this way of teaching.

 

[Nym]

Couldn't agree more with the first part, it reminded me of a quote "the farther back you look the further ahead you see" which is what we understand as "always been" or "the same"

but with the second part, is not something that is yet to be revealed "something coming"? We know it has already been revealed in us, but to others it hasn't ......

So if I speak to someone in who it has not yet been revealed, I speak of a truth yet to come, but only in the context of a revealing (even though it can and most likely will become a serpent to them) ..... hence the key word "largely"

So in conclusion, someone is or is not a prophet depending on who we are talking to

thinking out loud

"Position doth a serpent make."

 

[jugghead]

When I understand my enemy well enough to defeat him, then in that moment, I also love him.
A. E. Wiggin (from Ender's Game)

 

[FanthatSpark]

Good ole Orson .

 

[VanillaSunflowers]

 

[FanthatSpark]

Meditating on the "position of the serpent".

"It's not about thought, it is about the abstinence from it, both good and evil alike, as a chosen fast, or tree we do not eat of let alone touch ... she is a virgin … our soul"

That key was/is used for living in the moment and I boxed it there .
Applied to the spoon theory as the spoon is thought (Matrix analogy)
all the trees we can climb , yet the trees are forest . In a sense, one position of perception AKA serpent is the tree we choose to climb.

Brilliant Nym !!!

 

[VanillaSunflowers]

 

[VanillaSunflowers]

 

[FredVB]

Though God as ultimate being, the Creator, is beyond our knowing as we are, even though there are the writings of scriptures with the stories of how God was involved with the people, Christ came, and being among such as us, it is seen how God interacts with people, who are his creatures, and who he cares for. For Christ, even in being human, is still the supreme being, showing God's character. For in full unity with the heavenly Father and the Paraclete, the Creatorspirit, he who is incarnation of Logos, the Word with God, is of one distinct office with defined roles, being God in that unity, such as through whom just authority is shown. Through the heavenly Father there is among distinct roles design and perfect will which is just being shown, through the Spirit of God there is justly the activity accordingly carried out, through creation generally and among his creatures, as among his people.