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“Quantum mechanics produces detail in the form of structure because of its inherent uncertainty, which then becomes increasingly diverse, a chaos which it continually draws from, and it is as much a truth of matter, as it is a truth of consciousness, or soul; what quantum mechanics is to sub-consciousness, relativity is to soul.”
 
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Amazing grace! (how sweet the sound)
That sav'd a wretch like me!
I once was lost, but now am found,
Was blind, but now I see.

'Twas grace that taught my heart to fear,
And grace my fears reliev'd;
How precious did that grace appear
The hour I first believ'd!

Thro' many dangers, toils, and snares,
I have already come;
'Tis grace hath brought me safe thus far,
And grace will lead me home.

The Lord has promis'd good to me,
His word my hope secures;
He will my shield and portion be
As long as life endures.

Yes, when this flesh and heart shall fail,
And mortal life shall cease;
I shall possess, within the veil,
A life of joy and peace.

The earth shall soon dissolve like snow,
The sun forbear to shine;
But God, who call'd me here below,
Will be forever mine.

John Newton, Olney Hymns, 1779
 
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purity and righteousness can never be enough. not only do we have Gods love, we are Gods love. humanity is a bit irrational but so is love. wisdom and love can't be separated. truth is good but one without the other is dead because they are the same thing as well. swedenborg was nice because he taught a duality of two things that are one which help souls to better understand what something means because often when people are told of righteousness they have a weird view of it but add a few more words and the picture gets clearer. God is said to be many things, chiefly he is love but all that describes God can't be separated from what he is. in contemplation all things are made subject to God and seen in his light and your light for he gives all things freely. what great words they are that spoke:

Luke 12:31-32 (YLT)
but, seek ye the reign of God, and all these things shall be added to you. `Fear not, little flock, because your Father did delight to give you the reign;

 
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a spiritual process that God gives to those of us who still wander in the wilderness and of those feasting in heaven.

"Better Metal Snake"

War has been declared
We are forced to fight
Take lives of my men
My Kingdom falls this night

You conquer with your serpent
And it's scales of molten steel

METAL SNAKE [x4]

Castles lay in ruin
Carcasses ignite
Bretheren's heads on posts
But still I must fight

I conjure with my fury
A masterful decree

I will build a beast
That will conquer you
Built of metal gears
Spears to run you through

BETTER METAL SNAKE [x4]

Now go seek devour
Inject your poison
And take their lives away

BETTER METAL SNAKE [x4]

It's gonna take your life tonight
Mechanical reptilian might
Shed it's metal skin and destroy
It's such a better METAL SNAKE
 
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Few see it, fewer still enter into it, but it will not always be this way.

to see and not enter is to weep and gnash your teeth. I think this video sums up your post. i think 'reisen' means travel or traveler in japanese and that is the real name of the purple haired person. but the world sounds like it called him/her 'jim' which comes from the hebrew which means supplanter

 
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the bible is like an empty tomb. the life of it must be something more than a mere narrative in order for it to have any relevance at all.

 
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concerning Christianity as it is in the world and the most holy place, this is what God commands:

Ezek 46:16-18 (YLT)
`Thus said the Lord Jehovah: When the prince giveth a gift to any of his sons, his inheritance it is , to his sons it is ; their possession it is by inheritance. And when he giveth a gift out of his inheritance to one of his servants, then it hath been to him till the year of freedom, and it hath turned back to the prince, only the inheritance of his sons is theirs. And the prince doth not take of the inheritance of the people to oppress them, out of their possession, out of his own possession he doth cause his sons to inherit, so that My people are not scattered each from his possession.'


also it speaks of the process of angelic ranks. also of the difference between angelic children born from those angel souls in a soulmate union and of those souls who are their brothers and sisters but God having given them charge over for a season.
 
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God is the fullness of reality, personality, beloved... remove the veil in some moments of this reality, in others reveal parts of reality that have always been. so plain that God is reality, if only they could see and even I crave you more. how could this be? how could you do this to reality? how can it be you speak outside in the reality that my creature body is in but somehow match perfectly this or that moment, speaking to me as if reality itself was designed and ordered only for me. did you transport me secretly? am I always in this place I think is the universe that i share with billions of other souls and in heaven with countless souls? how many places are we at? what are places?

the other side of the coin of the new jerusalem where there is no night is an imperishable night where each star shines its own glory. there is no end to whatever this is that is greater than paradise. God craves after love more than we could but that makes us craves more and we are both infinite abysses together one abyss. everything in so many ways, endless realities endless truths and goods.

tasting what has always been, tasted like always. your people speak one to another Lord but whatever could we say to them? ah I hear them Lord, they are you speaking you who have always loved them. why this dark reality? we are not knowing you. look at me, little, small. did you say look at me? little small. I can't feel enough love, everything is tainted. how do i continue to keep existing here? how could I ever love you more here? i have to type, alone. here I am, your little creature. I can't say words for you. nothing can communicate you. embarrassment. do you enjoy me and my squirming? did you say that? did I say that? God I must be for you, you deserve you.

you see that love is best fulfilled in three and not one. one is three. there is no reason for you alone to exist. there is no reason for I alone to exist.
 
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“Quantum mechanics produces detail in the form of structure because of its inherent uncertainty, which then becomes increasingly diverse, a chaos which it continually draws from, and it is as much a truth of matter, as it is a truth of consciousness, or soul; what quantum mechanics is to sub-consciousness, relativity is to soul.”

Wow... I like this!
notes I made in 2002:

In Beyond the Quantum it speaks of Era I physics as being the physics of Galileo and Kepler, or the cataloging of motion with no explanation of motion; Era II physics being the mechanics of Newton through quantum theory, or the cataloging of law that explained change, but with no explanation of the law. Era III physics is the culmination, or deciphering, of physical law itself. (pg. 175)
I took it upon myself to enter my own footnote in the margin of the book:
"Era IV: The understanding of that which is beyond physical law, and takes place outside of matter in the higher dimensions. (Not just supposition and speculation, but actual comprehension as fact.) And real personal experience of these realms we study.


The 5 dimensions within and beyond the 7, these are the "smaller, curled" dimensions, comparable to the 5 string theories which combined in their totality create the unknown or undiscovered theory along with supergravity, but the complete Unified Theory of the All would encompass the 7 and the 5 together in harmony, working in the order rather than separately distinct.

As also I told you last night about obsolete theories, some of which are only missing this one simple point. The 3, the 7, and 12 are revealed throughout the Bible."
 
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Wow... I like this!
notes I made in 2002:

In Beyond the Quantum it speaks of Era I physics as being the physics of Galileo and Kepler, or the cataloging of motion with no explanation of motion; Era II physics being the mechanics of Newton through quantum theory, or the cataloging of law that explained change, but with no explanation of the law. Era III physics is the culmination, or deciphering, of physical law itself. (pg. 175)
I took it upon myself to enter my own footnote in the margin of the book:
"Era IV: The understanding of that which is beyond physical law, and takes place outside of matter in the higher dimensions. (Not just supposition and speculation, but actual comprehension as fact.) And real personal experience of these realms we study.


The 5 dimensions within and beyond the 7, these are the "smaller, curled" dimensions, comparable to the 5 string theories which combined in their totality create the unknown or undiscovered theory along with supergravity, but the complete Unified Theory of the All would encompass the 7 and the 5 together in harmony, working in the order rather than separately distinct.

As also I told you last night about obsolete theories, some of which are only missing this one simple point. The 3, the 7, and 12 are revealed throughout the Bible."


:wave: ,

Been seeking in possible angles to above statement and I am missing the point ^_^ . Maybe it is a mystery this mind is not ready to grasp. However, due to a sentence in the statement of missives sent , one starts to think the point lies in those missives. One wants to grasp Chaos vs Order, yet that may suffice for me, one still is hanging on this tree ^_^. Interesting concept :oldthumbsup: . Any chance of furthering this thought ?

Be well :hug:.
 
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"When we think of the laws of entropy, and things that appear to be but in truth are never really lost, and what this means to the consciousness of this matter at the beginning, then it is easy to see the sum of the end that is ever changing in the moment it is beheld."
 
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"When we think of the laws of entropy, and things that appear to be but in truth are never really lost, and what this means to the consciousness of this matter at the beginning, then it is easy to see the sum of the end that is ever changing in the moment it is beheld."

Nothing is ever really 'lost' as in destroyed..what is burned turns to ash, fertilizes the ground, is consumed by plants and animals...water can evaporate or boil away but it vaporizes, rises to the sky, becomes one with the clouds and rains water again.
The body or plant that dies and decomposes feeds multitudes of organisms, feeds the ground and eventually ends up somewhere else to repeat the cycle.
Thus time too would be a cycle if it could be seen in that way.
 
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