Thoughts ...

[Restoresmysoul]

very true.

God is a living spirit and we too are to be living with him or nothing matters. theology is only helpful if it brings one closer to God. spiritual practice is only useful if we get closer to God. sometimes spiritual practices don't seem useful to our flesh and so we don't do them unless they give us pleasure but God wants us to be set free from all evils holding us away from him and he wants to make us pure and innocent and perfect. we must be with God in whatever condition that we find ourselves to be in. this does not mean submission to the evils but rather it means clinging to God rather than self in all situations. it is a very high path and high calling but it is either dwell with God or don't, which is the most unthinkable and terrible thing that can be... even though so very often we forget God this is due to the ignorance that most of us have. it ought not to be so. we should be spiritual 24/7 and constantly dying to our fallen nature and clinging to God and dwelling with his grace.

our greatest enemy is ourselves. ourselves are deceived by the devils and dwell in the world and the self/flesh can not know God though it can experience the affects/effects of Gods blessings to us but the flesh ends up taking those things in the wrong way and stumbles. we must die for the Lord because the Lord died for us. there must be nothing between self and God or we will remain in purgatory and in torments. for all I know I killed myself and God has put me in purgatory.

if we are tormented then let us be tormented with God. whatsoever God wills for us, let this be done. "but I do not know what God wills" this is very good because we should die to ourselves and i'm sure the more we deny ourselves ( as God desires we do ) that we shall know the Lords will for he will be with us.

I dont believe in purgatory after death, but purgatory on earth may have merit. I dont know. I just feel trapped in my own hell. I dont like to admit this because people often judge me by it. They think faith should give me perpetual joy and peace, and a "good life now" type prosperity. Perhaps it should, i dont know, all i know is i need the Lord as much as anyone else, and being judged by others only adds to my hell, it doesn't seem charitable, i judge myself enough already, im not sure i need more judges. charity however seems pleasant.

 

[Restoresmysoul]

who among us does NOT have thorns in their flesh? we need DEATH, not false life. we need God to destroy us, to kill us, because we are wretched sinners who always forget him.

we use the idea that we are wretched sinners as a thing that hinders us from being with God. who will save us from this body of death? our enemies use everything against us. they to try to make us not seek and dwell with God.

help me God! I am tortured by my own self because it is a self that is not perfectly with you! my mind and body are always going astray from you Lord! let this madness end!

I don't want to suffer without you, let this hypocrisy be gone from us all. God, no way or thing is right! only you alone.

 

[Restoresmysoul]

I want to see that awareness go outside self and experience self formulating and being drawn out from within the depths of reality. I want to be innocence being eternally birthed. the copy and shadow of things tortures me, it is a glory fading away... but the Lord and his kingdom of children endures forever. I do not want to want, I just want to be with God and all that wants in me to be overflowed with him whom I desire and love and adore and suffer over. end this torture God! if my little soul can not be with your life she finds no reason to exist and yet she can not extinguish herself. all she wants, all I want, is to be whole and in the glory that is and was before the world and I want to fill this world with your glory.

I like this scripture, it seems to fit my life, at least according to my understanding of it anyway.


Romans 8:20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; 21 because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now. 23 Not only that, but we also who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, eagerly waiting for the adoption, the redemption of our body. 24 For we were saved in this hope, but hope that is seen is not hope; for why does one still hope for what he sees? 25 But if we hope for what we do not see, we eagerly wait for it with perseverance.

26 Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. 27 Now He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

28 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose.

 

[x141]

When judgment runs it's full course in somebody they come to the end of their ability to judge even themselves and relinquish themselves to the fact that there is only one who can judge them, and by this find that judgment sent forth is always unto victory.

 

[x141]

The basis for all truth is that there is no reason (but if one does not pick up their cross there is no end of it).

 

[toLiJC]

The kingdom was granted in the beginning, in the form of the life in us; God held nothing back, through our reasoning we hold God back, which is the same as opposing yourself.

Moses was a picture of a truth to us (in ways I have not found the end to yet, and don't expect to (of the process in us) even as Jesus was, or Mary, or why you see three Mary's at the cross, or why the spirit drove Jesus back into the wilderness immediately after the words, This is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased (which (as Jesus said) was the fulfilling of all righteousness), or why the raven goes to and fro (Paul's language concerning a roaring lion) until all the waters of the floods were dried up off the earth (etc.). It is a continuous narrative or river that flows from one, and then flows back again into one, of which the rivers that run into the sea (confusion), and then return to where they came from are one of the (earthly) pictures of.

Moses entered into the truth of what the land was symbolic of, no man knowing where he was buried, is the same as saying no man knoweth the Father but the son, or the one who is carnally minded cannot know the things of God, or discern them.

to reason well is not against the Will and the Word of the true Lord God, or how could a man/the believer right understand something important if he does not receive the necessary information in any other way?!, why not to be right that he at least reason well in such a case?!

the "raven" can mean some being that is related to the drainage of the flood

the "rivers" of Ecclesiastes 1:7 are the "streams" of God that "flow" into the "earth" and the "sea"(Isaiah 11:15)

as for Moses, remember His appearance together with Elias on the high mountain(Matthew 17), which shows They were resurrected even before the crucifixion of Jesus

even when it comes to the true Saints, They can witness the God's Word only as far as the true Lord God gives Them to do it, but They also cannot know what He does not give them to know - we do not know on principle, but He knows and can give us to know

Blessings

 

[x141]

to reason well is not against the Will and the Word of the true Lord God, or how could a man/the believer right understand something important if he does not receive the necessary information in any other way?!, why not to be right that he at least reason well in such a case?!

the "raven" can mean some being that is related to the drainage of the flood

the "rivers" of Ecclesiastes 1:7 are the "streams" of God that "flow" into the "earth" and the "sea"(Isaiah 11:15)

as for Moses, remember His appearance together with Elias on the high mountain(Matthew 17), which shows They were resurrected even before the crucifixion of Jesus

even when it comes to the true Saints, They can witness the God's Word only as far as the true Lord God gives Them to do it, but They also cannot know what He does not give them to know - we do not know on principle, but He knows and can give us to know

Blessings

To convey a truth ... all things are ours but only to the degree we believe that they are, which is a place past thought, or the labor to obtain it, which is a truth within one's self, or a walking in us ...

God calls us to reason with him, but not according to how we reason (based on an image outside of us, or a mixture of both as something caught between), one by a fall is a bottomless pit, the other by a Passover/cross as an ascending forever in us (both are deaths), or in one form, a kingdom we enter which, in another light is an entering (opening in us through reason) into the name written on the white stone, as who we are.

We know we are saved by the reasoning that we are, it is a faith born out of the knowledge of the love God is.

It is not about reason, but about (being) one (with our father, with our Husband, with our family/brother/all men, within ourselves) which reason (in the form of wisdom, knowledge, and understanding) come out of. It is a labor not, the spiritual truth about the meat perishing (or like water being poured into a cracked cistern, or money into a bag with holes, or a garment that is spooted and wrinkled, etc.) when one must labor for it.

A word is what we presently see it to be, which is part and parcel of the kingdom of God, such as the word God, as in how many words does it take to describe the one word that is God; our words are the same ... but this is the essence of our relationship with our father as it is the relationship with the name in the white stone of who we are. It is one's perception based on reasoning, even if it is to have no reason, or in other words, keep the feast of Passover.

To throw it out there, was Moses every really dead? if there is no remembrance of former things, did the former things ever exist (in relationship to the mind of God/Christ as something that changes not, but to us is always changing/increasing ...

When words are written and then looked upon our reason guides us. What was once (by keeping our soul) unto confusion, is now (by finding it again) as one who comes up out of the wilderness, or the voice of one that is crying in the wilderness.

The waters of Noah are a baptism (seen from the masculine they are the knowledge of the glory of the Lord that covers, or clothes the earth (as the waters cover the confusion/sea (in picture), in the feminine they are a flood that comes out of a dragon's mouth, which truths stem from the two fruits of one tree. The raven can be likened (in one form) or in another, an abomination in the holy place) as the Yet Is of the name of the beast one wanders after.

They are symbolism for what is happening in each of us.

 

[x141]

It is one thing to have the testimony of Jesus Christ and quite another for it to mean to us what this testimony had meant to him …

 

[toLiJC]

To convey a truth ... all things are ours but only to the degree we believe that they are, which is a place past thought, or the labor to obtain it, which is a truth within one's self, or a walking in us ...

God calls us to reason with him, but not according to how we reason (based on an image outside of us, or a mixture of both as something caught between), one by a fall is a bottomless pit, the other by a Passover/cross as an ascending forever in us (both are deaths), or in one form, a kingdom we enter which, in another light is an entering (opening in us through reason) into the name written on the white stone, as who we are.

We know we are saved by the reasoning that we are, it is a faith born out of the knowledge of the love God is.

It is not about reason, but about (being) one (with our father, with our Husband, with our family/brother/all men, within ourselves) which reason (in the form of wisdom, knowledge, and understanding) come out of. It is a labor not, the spiritual truth about the meat perishing (or like water being poured into a cracked cistern, or money into a bag with holes, or a garment that is spooted and wrinkled, etc.) when one must labor for it.

A word is what we presently see it to be, which is part and parcel of the kingdom of God, such as the word God, as in how many words does it take to describe the one word that is God; our words are the same ... but this is the essence of our relationship with our father as it is the relationship with the name in the white stone of who we are. It is one's perception based on reasoning, even if it is to have no reason, or in other words, keep the feast of Passover.

To throw it out there, was Moses every really dead? if there is no remembrance of former things, did the former things ever exist (in relationship to the mind of God/Christ as something that changes not, but to us is always changing/increasing ...

When words are written and then looked upon our reason guides us. What was once (by keeping our soul) unto confusion, is now (by finding it again) as one who comes up out of the wilderness, or the voice of one that is crying in the wilderness.

The waters of Noah are a baptism (seen from the masculine they are the knowledge of the glory of the Lord that covers, or clothes the earth (as the waters cover the confusion/sea (in picture), in the feminine they are a flood that comes out of a dragon's mouth, which truths stem from the two fruits of one tree. The raven can be likened (in one form) or in another, an abomination in the holy place) as the Yet Is of the name of the beast one wanders after.

They are symbolism for what is happening in each of us.

what if we have all the knowledge of God, but have no the love that saves the human lives?!, was Jesus Christ just a wise man?!, or wasn't He primarily a Savior?!, that love does not vaunt itself, and is clean, the love is also merciful, peaceable and forgiving, in addition to the fact that it is patient/long-suffering and does not prejudice, dishonor, afflict or harm the cohabitant(neighbor)

Blessings

 

[x141]

what if we have all the knowledge of God, but have no the love that saves the human lives?!, was Jesus Christ just a wise man?!, or wasn't He primarily a Savior?!, that love does not vaunt itself, and is clean, the love is also merciful, peaceable and forgiving, in addition to the fact that it is patient/long-suffering and does not prejudice, dishonor, afflict or harm the cohabitant(neighbor)

Blessings

We have always had the knowledge of God (as we have had his love, but it is our soul that robs us of this truth by laboring to obtain it (whether it is love or faith, or knowledge), which in itself is God and the unending truth that this is in relationship to us as to what our soul experiences as this truth of self.

Every garden has a tree of life in the midst of it, but it is a truth one enters by believing that it is, just as our footsteps become ordered to us when we believe that they are.

Jesus was made all things to us as much as he was the truth of who the son of man is (God called Ezekiel the son of man some ninety or so times, and Job believed the son of man was a worm until he turned), the truth that each of us are in relationship to God as our Father (which the process of coming to began with the seed falling to the ground as relative to who we are via soul, and in which it rules over us until the desired end come in us) remembering that when the guys from Jesus' neighborhood heard he had said no one knew where came from went to go get him thinking he had lost it).

All those who are taught of the Father come to him, or come to the place where he understood who he was, the son of God; God only having one son, and each of us are this son; it is not by labor, or product of thought, thought is a product of being it.

God has never been our adversary, and the coming to this is a present kingdom in us into which we can enter into as far as we are willing to go.

Jesus showed the way, as much as he was the way and is the way, as much as this is the same for us ... the journey or path of life is in us (which few find always looking somewhere outside of themselves which makes truth gain or merchandise, and not freely given from the beginning therefore as something that has to be earned) and is reflected in how Christ comes or how the kingdom comes), and springs up from us and is relative to everyone ever born of God whether they understand it yet or not.

 

[toLiJC]

We have always had the knowledge of God (as we have had his love, but it is our soul that robs us of this truth by laboring to obtain it (whether it is love or faith, or knowledge), which in itself is God and the unending truth that this is in relationship to us as to what our soul experiences as this truth of self.

Every garden has a tree of life in the midst of it, but it is a truth one enters by believing that it is, just as our footsteps become ordered to us when we believe that they are.

Jesus was made all things to us as much as he was the truth of who the son of man is (God called Ezekiel the son of man some ninety or so times, and Job believed the son of man was a worm until he turned), the truth that each of us are in relationship to God as our Father (which the process of coming to began with the seed falling to the ground as relative to who we are via soul, and in which it rules over us until the desired end come in us) remembering that when the guys from Jesus' neighborhood heard he had said no one knew where came from went to go get him thinking he had lost it).

All those who are taught of the Father come to him, or come to the place where he understood who he was, the son of God; God only having one son, and each of us are this son; it is not by labor, or product of thought, thought is a product of being it.

God has never been our adversary, and the coming to this is a present kingdom in us into which we can enter into as far as we are willing to go.

Jesus showed the way, as much as he was the way and is the way, as much as this is the same for us ... the journey or path of life is in us (which few find always looking somewhere outside of themselves which makes truth gain or merchandise, and not freely given from the beginning therefore as something that has to be earned) and is reflected in how Christ comes or how the kingdom comes), and springs up from us and is relative to everyone ever born of God whether they understand it yet or not.

the true God wants every human/soul to be saved, but the wicked is not a part of it which can have everlasting live in His Son, and there were also less saving, more saving and most saving, because some were more and most endeavored to contribute to the overall salvation in Him, or if Jesus had not worked so hard, would He have achieved so great results?!

Blessings

 

[Noxot]

you know... not many Christians have good arguments or explanations for this type of soul. so if all souls fall short and yet at the same time seek God then who is able to correctly judge anything at all besides God?

youtube.com/watch?v=EyK7ByBzcx8

 

[x141]

A good question would be, Would there be such as word as "sin" if God had not spoken?

John 15:22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin ...

Genesis 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

 

[toLiJC]

when it comes to the faith shown in the biblical scriptures, the case in point is the overall salvation in the true Lord God, because there were really many vain creeds/sects till now, but the purpose of the faith is as many people as possible to be spiritually purified so as they to become good/righteous and to have abundant and everlasting life in the true Lord God, while the intrigues are not truly profitable for all

Blessings

 

[Noxot]

A good question would be, Would there be such as word as "sin" if God had not spoken?

John 15:22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin ...

Genesis 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

honest to God how can anyone even properly give an answer to such a question? this song could give a better answer than I could conjure up.

Echoes Of Eternity
6. The Kingdom Within
I wandered through the forest blind
The Golden Land I searched so hard to find
Lay in ruins beneath the soul I left so far behind
Lost somewhere within the sands of time
I found comfort in your truth
Solace in your words
The kingdom we seek lies within
I found comfort in your truth
Solace in your words
The kingdom we seek lies within
I could feel your warmth and light
When cold and darkness filled the sky
Your words became a shining path that led me through the night
"The land you seek has always been, it lies within"
I found comfort in your truth
Solace in your words
The kingdom we seek lies within
I found comfort in your truth
Solace in your words
The kingdom we seek lies within
I found comfort in your truth
Solace in your words
The kingdom we seek lies within
I found comfort in your truth
Solace in your words
The kingdom we seek lies within

youtube.com/watch?v=nCte0z22sDQ

 

[Noxot]

I wonder how much capacity with language and understanding it is possible for a soul to have in an attempt to narrate the depths of heaven and Gods heart and his childs heart? knowledge is so discursive and incomplete. it's secondary and a complementary creativity for the soul to express herself to God and as a means of interaction for all the souls to interact in that particular way.

why did God do things the way he did and why did adam do the things the way he did? if God was to let us understand that then our entire lives would be wasted away with that explanation. knowledge is only as useful as it leads one to God and is used towards the purposes of the kingdom of God.

but I want to know why and yet i also wonder what adam was wondering when he disobeyed God? and what exactly was Gods intention in him speaking to adam? was the serpent evil? why exactly did God curse the serpent? there are so many questions and yet why are so few of Gods children expected to save the entire world?

we don't even realize how much is lost by people simply not looking. peoples sins are not so terrible in what they did do compared to what they did not do. what could they have done with God? I know God is very willing and has prepared very many things for those who love him.

there is someone out there right now that has the answers that i deserve and yet I must do without because they have decided to do without.

 

[Noxot]

without the Trinity nothing of reality makes sense and there is no such thing as freedom or real love and I say this only having seen darkly.

each person has to be themselves otherwise picking God and God picking them becomes meaningless.

 

[x141]

without the Trinity nothing of reality makes sense and there is no such thing as freedom or real love and I say this only having seen darkly.

each person has to be themselves otherwise picking God and God picking them becomes meaningless.

Self is the basis of all truth, which is relative to the individual, and not a law that another lives or dies by.

 

[x141]

when it comes to the faith shown in the biblical scriptures, the case in point is the overall salvation in the true Lord God, because there were really many vain creeds/sects till now, but the purpose of the faith is as many people as possible to be spiritually purified so as they to become good/righteous and to have abundant and everlasting life in the true Lord God, while the intrigues are not truly profitable for all

Blessings

I ask the question not for the answer, but for the fellowship for the individual (with their Father) that comes out of the question.

It says (in one place) that Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest ... And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved ... Jesus knew the end of the seed (through words) that he had sown, though it was grievous, it was in love that it was sown (which only the process of time reveals to us), just as the words to Adam over a tree that God called not only good, but very good.

Eternal life is to know our Father, and the knowing of the life that he is in us is eternal.

 

[toLiJC]

i do not judge/doom any person, but what would the use of (the) medicine be if the doctors did/do not heal the sick, neither save(d) the human life at all?!, and how much more should the faith be saving, after Jesus and His true disciples (that are shown in the Bible) cast out the devilish spirits of the possessed, healed the sick, recovered the lame/invalid, resurrected the dead, and saved the perished in general?!

Blessings