Thoughts on feminism?

[Paulie079]

Except, that wasn't my first post. Or even my second. I felt she came at me personally, so only then did I respond that I've been there and understand what it's like to be in that situation. She later PM'd me to apologize and explain why she reacted the way she did and we hugged it out. It's all good.

Thus, we should not take disagreement personally

Glad you worked it out. And it better have been a side hug.

 

[Saucy]

Of course. I don't want her fiance to hunt me down.

 

[redblue22]

Feminism is like saying the word "banana" over and over fast until it seems to lose all meaning. Nothing to understand or be afraid of.

 

[Toro]

IMO there are two types of "feminists":
1) Mainstream = Extremist - Man hating bitter, angry and obnoxious human beings (IMO)
2) A woman that doesn't insist on calling herself a feminist cause she is simply a woman that wants equality. (What human being wants to be treated unfairly? You dont need a "feminist label" to state the obvious)

The first type, no I don't believe CAN be a Christian because feminist type 1 is so insecure which is why she is so obnoxious and why she spouts nothing but hate from her lips from anyone that disagrees with her. Like the weak man that always has to talk about how tough he is cause he is really weak and scared and knows it. Thats how I see feminist type 1..... because "I am woman hear me roar!" and feel the only way to make themselves better is to drag down others. (Men hating and exclusion..... segregation/special treatment is NOT equality) This type is ALL about ego and pride..... which is not a characteristic that is Christ like.

The second type. Yes, because she is simply a woman that has dreams and ambitions and feels the system may be holding her back. Which in some ways, she has a valid argument, but realizes we ALL have our demons, we all have our struggles and NO ONE has it easy.... regardless of race,gender or faith and dont hate those that arent like them (In this instance.... men)

 

[redblue22]

Are we all really going to be so sensitive to subtle differences in the word "feminism"? We're hardly that sensitive to one another--and we supposedly all have some spiritual bond. Bzzt.

 

[Saucy]

Are we all really going to be so sensitive to subtle differences in the word "feminism"? We're hardly that sensitive to one another--and we supposedly all have some spiritual bond. Bzzt.

I don't think they're so subtle. People in my generation have mostly seen the vagina-hat wearing extremist feminists who you'd think was in a bizarre man-hating cult more than a positive movement. I'd personally love to hear more about putting someone like Harriet Tubman (whom I admire greatly) on the $20 than be screamed at for being a cis patriarchal white male who is racist and needs to be exterminated to preserve the sisterhood of traveling pants.

 

[Gnarwhal]

I agree with what women set out to accomplish in the suffrage movement and subsequent movements for equal pay and such. That being said, I think they've accomplished their goals, contrary to the narrative of modern feminism.

This third or fourth wave of feminism that we're seeing today is driven by backroom machinery that wants more than just equality between men and women, they want to run men into the ground. They want a submissive and disenfranchised sex that's ineffective in every sociopolitical sphere.

 

[TheGirlOnFire]

http://www3.weforum.org/docs/GGGR16/WEF_Global_Gender_Gap_Report_2016.pdf

 

[TheGirlOnFire]

Double posted

 

[TheGirlOnFire]

P.s a lot of feminist are fighting for our “sex” since men are trying to take that over with the trans movement

 

[planet_joe]

P.s a lot of feminist are fighting for our “sex” since men are trying to take that over with the trans movement

What are we trying to do with the trans movement? I'm confused.

 

[TheGirlOnFire]

What are we trying to do with the trans movement? I'm confused.

Well men are saying that they are female..... you know transwomen, they are not biologically female. If they want to call themselves “she” or wear typically women clothes etc then fine, whatever floats your boat.

But we are seeing an attack on what is actually female.

They are biologically men, end of.

 

[planet_joe]

Well men are saying that they are female..... you know transwomen, they are not biologically female. If they want to call themselves “she” or wear typically women clothes etc then fine, whatever floats your boat.

But we are seeing an attack on what is actually female.

They are biologically men, end of.

OK, I agree. Post-modern times I guess.

 

[blackribbon]

I don't really think that very many "men" are trying to present themselves as women.

 

[planet_joe]

I don't really think that very many "men" are trying to present themselves as women.

What do you mean with the quotation marks.

 

[blackribbon]

What do you mean with the quotation marks.

I am not convinced that some people are not born the opposite sex as their genitalia indicates. However, I believe this is fairly rare.

 

[planet_joe]

I am not convinced that some people are not born the opposite sex as their genitalia indicates. However, I believe this is fairly rare.

But your sex is a physical thing, just like your skin colour or whatever. How can you be born the opposite sex to your sex?

 

[Paulie079]

Well men are saying that they are female..... you know transwomen, they are not biologically female. If they want to call themselves “she” or wear typically women clothes etc then fine, whatever floats your boat.

But we are seeing an attack on what is actually female.

They are biologically men, end of.

I both agree and disagree haha. I disagree in the sense that transgenderism goes both ways. But I agree with you in the sense that I think the "new morality" is attempting to redefine, or attack as you say, what it means to be male or female. I would actually argue that males becoming females is as much an attack on masculinity as it is on femininity.

 

[Paulie079]

I don't think they're so subtle. People in my generation have mostly seen the vagina-hat wearing extremist feminists who you'd think was in a bizarre man-hating cult more than a positive movement. I'd personally love to hear more about putting someone like Harriet Tubman (whom I admire greatly) on the $20 than be screamed at for being a cis patriarchal white male who is racist and needs to be exterminated to preserve the sisterhood of traveling pants.

See, this is how I know when someone has been exposed to too much conservative media. Politically biased media is like a heat missile looking for the most bizarre examples of the viewpoint it opposes because it's low-hanging fruit. I have never seen someone wearing the stuff you are talking about or behaving in the manner that you are describing. If this were 50 years ago, you wouldn't even know such bizarre behavior occurred across the country.

 

[TheGirlOnFire]

I both agree and disagree haha. I disagree in the sense that transgenderism goes both ways. But I agree with you in the sense that I think the "new morality" is attempting to redefine, or attack as you say, what it means to be male or female. I would actually argue that males becoming females is as much an attack on masculinity as it is on femininity.

Of course you would as you are males.

Women who trans is smaller, and I don’t see men being asked not to say or speak certain things because it offends their “brother”

Though I know in Scotland they are looking at allowing “men” to have abortions since it’s only legal for male.

Also trans men worries me because are we telling young females that being “butch” or more into masculine things mean they are “men”

Same also goes for transwomen as well, their is nothing wrong with a feminine women. 80% of transwomen don’t have a sex reversal